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Edward Cowling London UK January 29th 06 10:36 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
Who on earth thought the new tube announcements starting,
"Ladies & Gentlemen," were a good idea ?

I get a sinking feeling everytime I hear them at Aldgate. They go off
about every 5 seconds, step on the announcements you want to hear, and
are so bloody pointless !

"Ladies & Gentlemen, this is a tube station, you can allegedly get a
tube home from here."

And more, constantly, only less useful :-)


--
Edward Cowling London UK

Bouncy Breasted Circle line Driver January 30th 06 01:02 AM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 

"Edward Cowling London UK" wrote in message
...
Who on earth thought the new tube announcements starting,
"Ladies & Gentlemen," were a good idea ?

I get a sinking feeling everytime I hear them at Aldgate. They go off
about every 5 seconds, step on the announcements you want to hear, and are
so bloody pointless !

"Ladies & Gentlemen, this is a tube station, you can allegedly get a tube
home from here."

And more, constantly, only less useful :-)

...............Huh????


--
Edward Cowling London UK


Hey Eddie, we have fun leaving you all perplexed on the platform
by not telling you which train will be first to depart, Circle? Met?....
It's the only giggle we have, and Aldgate is ideal for such antics.
What do you suggest I recommend to the Group Station manager
of the Aldgate group that announcements should start with?
"Good evening suckers"?



PhilD January 30th 06 07:14 AM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 

Edward Cowling London UK wrote:
Who on earth thought the new tube announcements starting,
"Ladies & Gentlemen," were a good idea ?


I think it is a good idea. Putting some "unimportant" words at the
start of an announcement gives people chance to tune in without missing
the important content. If the announcement just launches straight in,
people miss things. A "bing bong" at the beginning does the same thing
(you don't say whether there is a chime or not in this case).

PhilD

--



James Farrar January 30th 06 09:00 AM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
On 30 Jan 2006 00:14:31 -0800, "PhilD" wrote:


Edward Cowling London UK wrote:
Who on earth thought the new tube announcements starting,
"Ladies & Gentlemen," were a good idea ?


I think it is a good idea. Putting some "unimportant" words at the
start of an announcement gives people chance to tune in without missing
the important content.


The problem is that most of the announcements are useless. This means
that people will tend to ignore them completely.

Certainly every time I hear "this is a special announcement" or "this
is a safety announcement", I ignore it, because I know what it's goign
to say.

--
James Farrar
. @gmail.com

www.waspies.net January 30th 06 09:54 AM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
James Farrar wrote:
On 30 Jan 2006 00:14:31 -0800, "PhilD" wrote:


Edward Cowling London UK wrote:

Who on earth thought the new tube announcements starting,
"Ladies & Gentlemen," were a good idea ?


I think it is a good idea. Putting some "unimportant" words at the
start of an announcement gives people chance to tune in without missing
the important content.



The problem is that most of the announcements are useless. This means
that people will tend to ignore them completely.

Certainly every time I hear "this is a special announcement" or "this
is a safety announcement", I ignore it, because I know what it's goign
to say.

What about OI YOU LOT at the start of every message or LISTEN TO ME,
LISTEN TO ME then lots of flashing lights, the worst thing would be a
direct link into the drivers brain (G D & C) and what he's really
thinking about the great unwashed.:)

I'm off to put my flame proof underpants on;)

Matt Ashby January 30th 06 10:02 AM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
I think it is a good idea. Putting some "unimportant"
words at the start of an announcement gives people
chance to tune in without missing the important
content.


The problem is that most of the announcements are
useless. This means that people will tend to ignore
them completely.


Which announcements do you think are useless? Do
you have any examples?


Matt


Tim Roll-Pickering January 30th 06 10:30 AM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
James Farrar wrote:

The problem is that most of the announcements are useless. This means
that people will tend to ignore them completely.


You want a worse one? At Stratford a lot of routine Underground
announcements (e.g. "No Smoking") have an annoying tendency to start playing
and cancelling out specific announcements about what stations a train
serves. With no destination indicators at the east end of the Ilford bound
platform, many people frequently board peak hour trains that don't stop at
their station, because the crucial announcement was cut out.



d January 30th 06 12:10 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
"www.waspies.net" wrote in message
...
James Farrar wrote:
On 30 Jan 2006 00:14:31 -0800, "PhilD" wrote:


Edward Cowling London UK wrote:

Who on earth thought the new tube announcements starting,
"Ladies & Gentlemen," were a good idea ?

I think it is a good idea. Putting some "unimportant" words at the
start of an announcement gives people chance to tune in without missing
the important content.



The problem is that most of the announcements are useless. This means
that people will tend to ignore them completely.

Certainly every time I hear "this is a special announcement" or "this
is a safety announcement", I ignore it, because I know what it's goign
to say.

What about OI YOU LOT at the start of every message or LISTEN TO ME,
LISTEN TO ME then lots of flashing lights, the worst thing would be a
direct link into the drivers brain (G D & C) and what he's really thinking
about the great unwashed.:)


Maybe the announcements should start with a loud "OI YOU ****ERS" quickly
followed by a 30-second burst of klaxon, two minutes of screaming babies
mixed in with the sounds of a slaughter house, followed by more profanity,
and finally "stand behind the yellow line" :-P

I'm off to put my flame proof underpants on;)




www.waspies.net January 30th 06 12:11 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 

What about OI YOU LOT at the start of every message or LISTEN TO ME,
LISTEN TO ME then lots of flashing lights, the worst thing would be a
direct link into the drivers brain (G D & C) and what he's really thinking
about the great unwashed.:)



Maybe the announcements should start with a loud "OI YOU ****ERS" quickly
followed by a 30-second burst of klaxon, two minutes of screaming babies
mixed in with the sounds of a slaughter house, followed by more profanity,
and finally "stand behind the yellow line" :-P


Sounds good to me, I'm back on the Met tomorrow night, listen out for
that one;)

d January 30th 06 12:23 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
"www.waspies.net" wrote in message
...

What about OI YOU LOT at the start of every message or LISTEN TO ME,
LISTEN TO ME then lots of flashing lights, the worst thing would be a
direct link into the drivers brain (G D & C) and what he's really
thinking about the great unwashed.:)



Maybe the announcements should start with a loud "OI YOU ****ERS" quickly
followed by a 30-second burst of klaxon, two minutes of screaming babies
mixed in with the sounds of a slaughter house, followed by more
profanity, and finally "stand behind the yellow line" :-P


Sounds good to me, I'm back on the Met tomorrow night, listen out for that
one;)


hahaha! :)



Nick Leverton January 30th 06 12:53 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
In article ,
www.waspies.net wrote:

Maybe the announcements should start with a loud "OI YOU ****ERS" quickly
followed by a 30-second burst of klaxon, two minutes of screaming babies
mixed in with the sounds of a slaughter house, followed by more profanity,
and finally "stand behind the yellow line" :-P

Sounds good to me, I'm back on the Met tomorrow night, listen out for
that one;)


I'm sure there's a band who've released that song already.

Nick
--
So when is Tony Blair going to start treating *us* with respect ?

Helen Deborah Vecht January 30th 06 01:32 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
"Matt Ashby" typed

Which announcements do you think are useless? Do
you have any examples?



'On leaving the train, please ensure you have all your personal
possessions with you.'

Has no effect on the terminally scatter-brained AFAICT...

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

d January 30th 06 01:51 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
"Helen Deborah Vecht" wrote in message
...
"Matt Ashby" typed

Which announcements do you think are useless? Do
you have any examples?



'On leaving the train, please ensure you have all your personal
possessions with you.'

Has no effect on the terminally scatter-brained AFAICT...


But would have an effect on someone who isn't scatter-brained, but has left
something behind. Just because it doesn't affect you doesn't mean it's
useless :)

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.




Ian Jelf January 30th 06 02:20 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
In message , Helen Deborah
Vecht writes
"Matt Ashby" typed

Which announcements do you think are useless? Do
you have any examples?



'On leaving the train, please ensure you have all your personal
possessions with you.'

Has no effect on the terminally scatter-brained AFAICT...


You probably saw that I posted recently about a large part of the front
end of a Ford Escort being left on a District Line train (I was told of
this on a behind-the-scenes visit to Baker Street a while ago now).
The number of umbrellas, gloves and mobile phones there is amazing.

Whenever I come to the end of tours, be it for half a day or for several
days' duration, I always do an announcement about not leaving things
behind which I endeavour to make sound spontaneous and with feeling,
rather than just being well, an announcement. But people still leave
things, even after they've been told the tale of an incident many years
ago now, when someone left behind their artificial foot.......
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

d January 30th 06 02:28 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
"Ian Jelf" wrote in message
...
In message , Helen Deborah Vecht
writes
"Matt Ashby" typed

Which announcements do you think are useless? Do
you have any examples?



'On leaving the train, please ensure you have all your personal
possessions with you.'

Has no effect on the terminally scatter-brained AFAICT...


You probably saw that I posted recently about a large part of the front
end of a Ford Escort being left on a District Line train (I was told of
this on a behind-the-scenes visit to Baker Street a while ago now). The
number of umbrellas, gloves and mobile phones there is amazing.

Whenever I come to the end of tours, be it for half a day or for several
days' duration, I always do an announcement about not leaving things
behind which I endeavour to make sound spontaneous and with feeling,
rather than just being well, an announcement. But people still leave
things, even after they've been told the tale of an incident many years
ago now, when someone left behind their artificial foot.......


But you never see the items from people who would have left something, but
upon hearing the announcement remembered to take their items with them...
so it'll always appear, from lost-baggage's perspective, that the
announcements don't work :-P

--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk




BrassyFem Circle line Driver January 30th 06 03:13 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 

"Edward Cowling London UK" wrote in message
...
Who on earth thought the new tube announcements starting,
"Ladies & Gentlemen," were a good idea ?

I get a sinking feeling everytime I hear them at Aldgate. They go off
about every 5 seconds, step on the announcements you want to hear, and are
so bloody pointless !

"Ladies & Gentlemen, this is a tube station, you can allegedly get a tube
home from here."

And more, constantly, only less useful :-)


--
Edward Cowling London UK


I'm doing inner rail circle line runs three evening's this week,
I'll be sure to give it "Good evening eddie" when at Aldgate.......



Tom Anderson January 30th 06 11:17 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, Nick Leverton wrote:

In article ,
www.waspies.net wrote:

Maybe the announcements should start with a loud "OI YOU ****ERS"
quickly followed by a 30-second burst of klaxon, two minutes of
screaming babies mixed in with the sounds of a slaughter house,
followed by more profanity, and finally "stand behind the yellow line"
:-P


Sounds good to me, I'm back on the Met tomorrow night, listen out for
that one;)


I'm sure there's a band who've released that song already.


Yes, the Aphex Twin did a whole album like that.

tom

--
Don't trust the laws of men. Trust the laws of mathematics.

Nick Leverton January 30th 06 11:28 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
In article ,
Tom Anderson wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, Nick Leverton wrote:

In article ,
www.waspies.net wrote:

Maybe the announcements should start with a loud "OI YOU ****ERS"
quickly followed by a 30-second burst of klaxon, two minutes of
screaming babies mixed in with the sounds of a slaughter house,
followed by more profanity, and finally "stand behind the yellow line"
:-P

Sounds good to me, I'm back on the Met tomorrow night, listen out for
that one;)


I'm sure there's a band who've released that song already.


Yes, the Aphex Twin did a whole album like that.


Come to Daddy ?

Nick
--
So when is Tony Blair going to start treating *us* with respect ?

Ian F. January 31st 06 07:19 AM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
"Matt Ashby" wrote in message
ups.com...

Which announcements do you think are useless? Do
you have any examples?


"There is currently a one second pause good one second pause service
on the Northern Line".

Ian



Christine January 31st 06 07:25 AM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 08:19:42 -0000, "Ian F."
wrote:

"Matt Ashby" wrote in message
oups.com...

Which announcements do you think are useless? Do
you have any examples?


"There is currently a one second pause good one second pause service
on the Northern Line".

Ian

I agree, useless, especially when the Train Display says next train in
14 mins!!!!

Adrian January 31st 06 12:58 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
d ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

'On leaving the train, please ensure you have all your personal
possessions with you.'

Has no effect on the terminally scatter-brained AFAICT...


But would have an effect on someone who isn't scatter-brained, but has
left something behind.


If they're still on the train, then they don't realise that they're about
to leave something behind.

If they've just left the train, then by the time they DO realise, the train
doors are closed and the train is just disappearing into the tunnel...

Adrian January 31st 06 12:58 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
Ian F. ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying :

"There is currently a one second pause good one second pause service
on the Northern Line".


The second pause is needed - for the laughter to die down.

RentBoy January 31st 06 01:34 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 

"Adrian" wrote in message
. 244.170...
Ian F. ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were
saying :

"There is currently a one second pause good one second pause service
on the Northern Line".


The second pause is needed - for the laughter to die down.


Adrian
stay out of this thread, you're out of your depth.



d January 31st 06 02:45 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
"Adrian" wrote in message
. 244.170...
d ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

'On leaving the train, please ensure you have all your personal
possessions with you.'

Has no effect on the terminally scatter-brained AFAICT...


But would have an effect on someone who isn't scatter-brained, but has
left something behind.


If they're still on the train, then they don't realise that they're about
to leave something behind.


Sorry - in the process of leaving something behind. As in they are with
their soon-to-be-lost property, but have forgotten they have it with them.

If they've just left the train, then by the time they DO realise, the
train
doors are closed and the train is just disappearing into the tunnel...




Ian F. January 31st 06 03:35 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
"Adrian" wrote in message
. 244.170...

The second pause is needed - for the laughter to die down.


LOL.

Ian



Edward Cowling London UK January 31st 06 06:22 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
In message . 170,
Adrian writes
Ian F. ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying :

"There is currently a one second pause good one second pause service
on the Northern Line".


The second pause is needed - for the laughter to die down.


Or the sobbing...... on a bad night :-)


--
Edward Cowling London UK

[email protected] January 31st 06 09:55 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 

Ian Jelf wrote:

Whenever I come to the end of tours, be it for half a day or for several
days' duration, I always do an announcement about not leaving things
behind which I endeavour to make sound spontaneous and with feeling,
rather than just being well, an announcement. But people still leave
things, even after they've been told the tale of an incident many years
ago now, when someone left behind their artificial foot.......



Thanks. I appreciate it. I have a tendency to leave things behind,
especially when things aren't routine. The announcements help.

I recently left a much loved scarf on a train (I was very tired and had
flu so wasn't thinking). Railways don't handle lost property very well
nowadays I'm afraid.

Francis


David Howdon January 31st 06 10:33 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
d wrote:


But you never see the items from people who would have left something, but
upon hearing the announcement remembered to take their items with them...
so it'll always appear, from lost-baggage's perspective, that the
announcements don't work :-P


They could test it by not playing the announcement for a month and
seeing if the number of left items goes up. Perhaps they have done such
a test.

--
To contact me take a davidhowdon and add a @yahoo.co.uk to the end.

Ian F. January 31st 06 11:08 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
"Chris!" wrote in message
oups.com...

Or the "The next stop on this train" part on the northen line
announcmenents... Whats wrong with the German system "Next stop:
Charing Cross" - none of the fake pleasantries


At Leicester Square, the announcement used to say (and maybe still does)
"The next stop *with* this train is Tottenham Court Road". WTF?

Ian



Tom Anderson February 1st 06 01:05 AM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Nick Leverton wrote:

In article ,
Tom Anderson wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, Nick Leverton wrote:

In article ,
www.waspies.net wrote:

Maybe the announcements should start with a loud "OI YOU ****ERS"
quickly followed by a 30-second burst of klaxon, two minutes of
screaming babies mixed in with the sounds of a slaughter house,
followed by more profanity, and finally "stand behind the yellow line"
:-P

Sounds good to me, I'm back on the Met tomorrow night, listen out for
that one;)

I'm sure there's a band who've released that song already.


Yes, the Aphex Twin did a whole album like that.


Come to Daddy ?


That's an EP, rather than an album, but it fits the bill. Come to think of
it, almost all Aphex Twin records fit the bill ...

tom

--
Who would you help in a fight, Peter van der Linden or Bill Gates?

Nick Leverton February 1st 06 01:08 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
In article ,
Tom Anderson wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Nick Leverton wrote:
Tom Anderson wrote:


...snips..
Yes, the Aphex Twin did a whole album like that.


Come to Daddy ?


That's an EP, rather than an album, but it fits the bill.


Thanks, I assumed otherwise as my copy looks like an album ... well
it's got 8 tracks on anyway, only half of which seem to be remixes.
I'm not in a strong enough mood to listen to it right now and check !

Come to think of
it, almost all Aphex Twin records fit the bill ...


He certainly leapt into my mind too :)

Nick
--
So when is Tony Blair going to start treating *us* with respect ?

Edward Cowling London UK February 1st 06 06:38 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
In message .com,
Chris! writes

The automatic ones that broadcast over the top of useful announcements
the staff are making. E.g. at Earls Court, somone announces "Sorry for
the delay this evening, the next Wimbledon train is currently leaving"
then is interrupted by "A normal service is operating on the district
line"


I had that tonight at Aldgate.

A ladies and gentlemen there is a good service on all
underground lines, stepped on the announcement telling
us where the next Hammersmith & City line had got to.

I think it turned out that the driver had got lost and decided
to be the 18:10 to Amersham instead :-)


--
Edward Cowling London UK

Richard J. February 1st 06 07:51 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
Edward Cowling London UK wrote:
In message .com,
Chris! writes


[in response to Matt Ashby's "Which announcements do you think are
useless? Do
you have any examples?]

The automatic ones that broadcast over the top of useful
announcements the staff are making. E.g. at Earls Court, somone
announces "Sorry for the delay this evening, the next Wimbledon
train is currently leaving" then is interrupted by "A normal
service is operating on the district line"


I had that tonight at Aldgate.

A ladies and gentlemen there is a good service on all
underground lines, stepped on the announcement telling
us where the next Hammersmith & City line had got to.


I assume you're nominating the H&C announcement as useless, since the
H&C doesn't serve Aldgate.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)


Tim February 1st 06 08:51 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
But would have an effect on someone who isn't scatter-brained, but has
left something behind.


If they're still on the train, then they don't realise that they're about
to leave something behind.


Sorry - in the process of leaving something behind. As in they are with
their soon-to-be-lost property, but have forgotten they have it with them.

If they've just left the train, then by the time they DO realise, the
train
doors are closed and the train is just disappearing into the tunnel...




People this dismally stupid go through life in a haze that the witty
denizens of Usenet would not even realise as sentience. Watch them stand in
front of ticket gates fumbling in their rucksacks. Watch them drop things
whilst waiting at cashpoints or checkout queues for no apparent reason

I really want a place to get away from these ****wits. Yes I do want to read
my book, and yes books are optimised for a slightly longer attention span
than the Metro is; do people get bored upon finding their phones don't work
underground and they need some waffle to listen to?






Ian Jelf February 1st 06 09:56 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
In message .com,
writes

Ian Jelf wrote:

Whenever I come to the end of tours, be it for half a day or for several
days' duration, I always do an announcement about not leaving things
behind which I endeavour to make sound spontaneous and with feeling,
rather than just being well, an announcement. But people still leave
things, even after they've been told the tale of an incident many years
ago now, when someone left behind their artificial foot.......



Thanks. I appreciate it.

Don't mention it! :-)

I have a tendency to leave things behind,
especially when things aren't routine. The announcements help.

I recently left a much loved scarf on a train (I was very tired and had
flu so wasn't thinking).

I once left a much loved scarf dangling on some railings in the
multi-storey car park at Luton Airport Parkway Station. Over a week
later I returned and found it still there!
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

Edward Cowling London UK February 1st 06 10:31 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
In message , Tim
writes


I really want a place to get away from these ****wits. Yes I do want to read
my book, and yes books are optimised for a slightly longer attention span
than the Metro is; do people get bored upon finding their phones don't work
underground and they need some waffle to listen to?


Oh dear, hide the sharp objects !

--
Edward Cowling London UK

Edward Cowling London UK February 1st 06 10:33 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
In message , Richard J.
writes


A ladies and gentlemen there is a good service on all
underground lines, stepped on the announcement telling
us where the next Hammersmith & City line had got to.


I assume you're nominating the H&C announcement as useless, since the
H&C doesn't serve Aldgate.


Sorry Aldgate East. Not to be confused with Aldgate which is next door
:-)

Or did the train decide to be the 18:23 to St Neots ? :-)


--
Edward Cowling London UK

Robert Woolley February 16th 06 09:21 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:36:51 +0000, Edward Cowling London UK
wrote:

Who on earth thought the new tube announcements starting,
"Ladies & Gentlemen," were a good idea ?

Tim O'Toole, the Tube's MD.


Rob.
--
rob at robertwoolley dot co dot uk

Edward Cowling London UK February 16th 06 10:33 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen
 
In message , Robert Woolley
writes
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:36:51 +0000, Edward Cowling London UK
wrote:

Who on earth thought the new tube announcements starting,
"Ladies & Gentlemen," were a good idea ?

Tim O'Toole, the Tube's MD.


Ahh. It's now starting to sound like the introduction to a music hall
act. Like the guy who did Leeds City Varieties.

"Ladies & Gentlemen, tonight for your transportational functionality, we
have pleasure in giving you......Terry driving the 18:10 to
Hammersmith."


--
Edward Cowling London UK


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