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Matt Ashby January 30th 06 04:56 PM

LU station abbreviation codes
 
Does anyone know where I can get a list of the three-letter station
codes that LU uses to refer to stations? I don't know what the system
is called but I know each station has a code.

All help gratefully accepted.


Matt


Andy January 30th 06 05:43 PM

LU station abbreviation codes
 
Offically IIRC only the Central line and W&C has fixed codes and the system
is:
the first three letters of a single word,
the first two of the first word and the first of the second for two word
station name
the first letter of each for three word the only one being TCR.
The exceptions are Redbridge which should be RED which whould be confusing
so they consider it two word so it's REB and Leytonstone LES the same rule
is applied so so not be confused with Leyton (LEY).
I think Bank is labled twice BAN for Central line and BNK for W&C its so the
ATO software which was never put in would not get confused.
Andy

"Matt Ashby" wrote in message
ps.com...
Does anyone know where I can get a list of the three-letter station
codes that LU uses to refer to stations? I don't know what the system
is called but I know each station has a code.

All help gratefully accepted.


Matt




Matt Ashby January 30th 06 08:12 PM

LU station abbreviation codes
 
Andy wrote:

Offically IIRC only the Central line and W&C has
fixed codes


Thanks for the information. I was told by a Station
Assistant at Hounslow West the other day that that
station has the code HNW. Does anyone know of
any codes for lines of than the Central and W&C?


Matt


Steve Fitzgerald January 30th 06 08:33 PM

LU station abbreviation codes
 
In message .com, Matt
Ashby writes
Andy wrote:

Offically IIRC only the Central line and W&C has
fixed codes


Thanks for the information. I was told by a Station
Assistant at Hounslow West the other day that that
station has the code HNW. Does anyone know of
any codes for lines of than the Central and W&C?


We use the following codes on the Piccadilly (Arnos), although am aware
that Acton use some different ones and I've no idea if these are
definitive:

CFS - Cockfosters
OAK - Oakwood
AGR - Arnos Grove
WGN - Wood Green
GPK - Green Park
HPC - Hyde Park Corner
ACT - Acton Town
NFD - Northfields
HRC - Heathrow 123 (ex-Heathrow Central!) (Acton just call it 123)
SHR - South Harrow
RLN - Rayners Lane
RUI - Ruislip
UXB - Uxbridge

I've also seen HAM being used for Hammersmith but it's not one of our
booked reverses.

I'm sure somebody (Steve D?) might have a more comprehensive list tucked
away.
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Richard J. January 30th 06 08:42 PM

LU station abbreviation codes
 
Andy wrote:
Offically IIRC only the Central line and W&C has fixed codes and
the system is:
the first three letters of a single word,
the first two of the first word and the first of the second for two
word station name
the first letter of each for three word the only one being TCR.
The exceptions are Redbridge which should be RED which whould be
confusing so they consider it two word so it's REB


What other station on LU could RED be confused with?
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

David Walters January 30th 06 08:56 PM

LU station abbreviation codes
 
On 30 Jan 2006 09:56:37 -0800, Matt Ashby wrote:
Does anyone know where I can get a list of the three-letter station
codes that LU uses to refer to stations? I don't know what the system
is called but I know each station has a code.


The ETA pages at http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tube/travelinfo/eta/ have
the station code for the lines they cover in the URLs.

David

Andy January 30th 06 09:51 PM

LU station abbreviation codes
 

"Richard J." wrote in message
k...
Andy wrote:
Offically IIRC only the Central line and W&C has fixed codes and
the system is:
the first three letters of a single word,
the first two of the first word and the first of the second for two
word station name
the first letter of each for three word the only one being TCR.
The exceptions are Redbridge which should be RED which whould be
confusing so they consider it two word so it's REB


What other station on LU could RED be confused with?
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)


"I'm at a green signal at Red" it could get quite confusing over a radio so
it not used for that reason.



Laurence Payne January 30th 06 11:54 PM

LU station abbreviation codes
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 18:43:36 -0000, "Andy"
wrote:

The exceptions are Redbridge which should be RED which whould be confusing
so they consider it two word so it's REB and Leytonstone LES the same rule
is applied so so not be confused with Leyton (LEY).


Or with many of the female staff. Or so one hears :-)

James Farrar January 31st 06 12:21 AM

LU station abbreviation codes
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:51:43 -0000, "Andy"
wrote:


"Richard J." wrote in message
. uk...
Andy wrote:
Offically IIRC only the Central line and W&C has fixed codes and
the system is:
the first three letters of a single word,
the first two of the first word and the first of the second for two
word station name
the first letter of each for three word the only one being TCR.
The exceptions are Redbridge which should be RED which whould be
confusing so they consider it two word so it's REB


What other station on LU could RED be confused with?
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)


"I'm at a green signal at Red" it could get quite confusing over a radio so
it not used for that reason.


I seem to remember seeing reference to Redbridge as Red Bridge.
Memory's a little fuzzy though.

--
James Farrar
. @gmail.com

Laurence Payne January 31st 06 11:04 AM

LU station abbreviation codes
 
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:21:29 +0000, James Farrar
wrote:

I seem to remember seeing reference to Redbridge as Red Bridge.
Memory's a little fuzzy though.


Well, the name derives, obviously enough, from a red bridge over the
River Roding.

chunky munky January 31st 06 10:04 PM

LU station abbreviation codes
 
These arent the codes used, as someone else has said only the Central
Line have offical station codes. On other lines, its all down to the
short-hand used.
Often as well the Train Description letter may be different from what
is on the Signal Control Data (M.E.L. or Boxsheets).

David Walters wrote:
On 30 Jan 2006 09:56:37 -0800, Matt Ashby wrote:
Does anyone know where I can get a list of the three-letter station
codes that LU uses to refer to stations? I don't know what the system
is called but I know each station has a code.


The ETA pages at http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tube/travelinfo/eta/ have
the station code for the lines they cover in the URLs.

David



Bob Rodden February 2nd 06 06:30 PM

LU station abbreviation codes
 
Correct. There are some exceptions though.

The Tooting's on the Northern are TBY and TBC are two that I can think of.

They were 'invented' by a bright spark from the Chief Engineer's Directorate
with some, but not much thought.

As the head of equality was a right battleaxe I never had the nerve to tell
about them, particularly Woodside Park and Wood Green.


"Andy" wrote in message
...
Offically IIRC only the Central line and W&C has fixed codes and the

system
is:
the first three letters of a single word,
the first two of the first word and the first of the second for two word
station name
the first letter of each for three word the only one being TCR.
The exceptions are Redbridge which should be RED which whould be confusing
so they consider it two word so it's REB and Leytonstone LES the same rule
is applied so so not be confused with Leyton (LEY).
I think Bank is labled twice BAN for Central line and BNK for W&C its so

the
ATO software which was never put in would not get confused.
Andy

"Matt Ashby" wrote in message
ps.com...
Does anyone know where I can get a list of the three-letter station
codes that LU uses to refer to stations? I don't know what the system
is called but I know each station has a code.

All help gratefully accepted.


Matt






Acrosticus February 2nd 06 08:56 PM

LU station abbreviation codes
 
"Richard J." wrote in message


k...

"I'm at a green signal at Red" it could get quite confusing over a radio so
it not used for that reason.


But "REB" is unlikely to sound much different to "red" over a two-way
radio either. Whatever happened to the phonetic alphabet? If they used
that the message you suggest would become "I'm at a green signal at
Romeo Echo Delta"; a far more comprehensible piece of communication!


Richard J. February 2nd 06 09:35 PM

LU station abbreviation codes
 
Acrosticus wrote:
"Richard J." wrote in message

k...

"I'm at a green signal at Red" it could get quite confusing over a
radio so it not used for that reason.


Actually it was Andy who wrote that.

But "REB" is unlikely to sound much different to "red" over a
two-way radio either. Whatever happened to the phonetic alphabet?
If they used that the message you suggest would become "I'm at a
green signal at Romeo Echo Delta"; a far more comprehensible piece
of communication!


Very true! But are these codes used in radio messages? If so, why are
Northfields and Arnos Grove drivers allowed to use different codes?
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)



Steve Fitzgerald February 2nd 06 10:25 PM

LU station abbreviation codes
 
In message , Richard J.
writes

Actually it was Andy who wrote that.

But "REB" is unlikely to sound much different to "red" over a
two-way radio either. Whatever happened to the phonetic alphabet?
If they used that the message you suggest would become "I'm at a
green signal at Romeo Echo Delta"; a far more comprehensible piece
of communication!


Very true! But are these codes used in radio messages? If so, why are
Northfields and Arnos Grove drivers allowed to use different codes?


I can only speak for the Picc, but abbreviations are only used as a form
of shorthand in written communications (duty books, DMT's instructions
etc.) and stations are always referred to by their full (well, often
missing Lane, Grove etc., so we just refer to Arnos or Acton) over the
radio.
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Colin Rosenstiel February 4th 06 03:58 PM

LU station abbreviation codes
 
In article , ] (Steve
Fitzgerald) wrote:

I can only speak for the Picc, but abbreviations are only used as a
form of shorthand in written communications (duty books, DMT's
instructions etc.) and stations are always referred to by their full
(well, often missing Lane, Grove etc., so we just refer to Arnos or
Acton) over the radio.


Doesn't that get confusing? OK, the Piccadilly has only one Acton
station but the Central has three.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Steve Fitzgerald February 4th 06 11:56 PM

LU station abbreviation codes
 
I can only speak for the Picc, but abbreviations are only used as a
form of shorthand in written communications (duty books, DMT's
instructions etc.) and stations are always referred to by their full
(well, often missing Lane, Grove etc., so we just refer to Arnos or
Acton) over the radio.


Doesn't that get confusing? OK, the Piccadilly has only one Acton
station but the Central has three.


Not really - we don't tend to go onto the Central line very often with
our trains ;-)
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