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I see that those nice underpaid and overworked undreground drivers have
voted for a strike on the basis that industrial relations have
completely broken down. Could the passengers now also call for a strike
on the basis that tube travel on London is now a complete f**k-up.
You would think for the fares that we now pay it wouldn't be too much
to ask that a driver could put off his squash games, manage to stay
awake long enough to actually drive the bloody tube train. They are
paid well enough after all.
Now I will have another bloody row with Silverlink because as they say
it is nothing to do with them that my Watford to all zones travel card
can't be used in zone 1. Anybody would think that when I pay for a
ticket it is on the basis that I actually expect trains to run.

Kevin

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that my Watford to all zones travel card can't be used in zone 1.

Whyever not?

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"It is unreasonable to call strikes before consultation has taken place
on these issues and before the RMT have even told us their views on the
proposals we are consulting about."

If they were consultative documents why did they have an implementation
date?

Aslef's general secretary Keith Norman raised hopes that strikes could
be avoided when he revealed "considerable progress" had been made during
talks between the two sides.

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If being a Train Operator is the cushy number you seem to think it is then
why aren't You training to join us ?
Tunnelrat
"Kevin" wrote in message
oups.com...
I see that those nice underpaid and overworked undreground drivers have
voted for a strike on the basis that industrial relations have
completely broken down. Could the passengers now also call for a strike
on the basis that tube travel on London is now a complete f**k-up.
You would think for the fares that we now pay it wouldn't be too much
to ask that a driver could put off his squash games, manage to stay
awake long enough to actually drive the bloody tube train. They are
paid well enough after all.
Now I will have another bloody row with Silverlink because as they say
it is nothing to do with them that my Watford to all zones travel card
can't be used in zone 1. Anybody would think that when I pay for a
ticket it is on the basis that I actually expect trains to run.

Kevin

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Tunnelrat wrote:
If being a Train Operator is the cushy number you seem to think it is then
why aren't You training to join us ?
Tunnelrat
"Kevin" wrote in message
oups.com...

I see that those nice underpaid and overworked undreground drivers have
voted for a strike on the basis that industrial relations have
completely broken down. Could the passengers now also call for a strike
on the basis that tube travel on London is now a complete f**k-up.
You would think for the fares that we now pay it wouldn't be too much
to ask that a driver could put off his squash games, manage to stay
awake long enough to actually drive the bloody tube train. They are
paid well enough after all.
Now I will have another bloody row with Silverlink because as they say
it is nothing to do with them that my Watford to all zones travel card
can't be used in zone 1. Anybody would think that when I pay for a
ticket it is on the basis that I actually expect trains to run.

Kevin




Sorry Tunnelrat, but there are plenty of people who would love to do our
job, think that we are overpaid (not by industry standards anymore),
underworked, and actually like going out on strike, the current dispute
is over the imposition of new policies covering sickness, spads etc,
they basically give managers the right to be judge, jury and executioner
you could be sacked just on a mangers suspicion, if these were
consultative documents why were they released on the company intranet,
why did they have implementation dates, the company have said that they
want to bring these policies in to get rid of the ****takers, they
already have the rules to do this but seem to choose not to use them,
myself and many of my colleagues would love to see the ****takers hit
hard, it never happens, WHY?

Personally I voted for strike action, because these policies are
draconian in the extreme, it takes something to get me to vote for a
strike, I don't think it will actually come to ASLEF going out on
strike, but the RMT are a different kettle of fish and like wasting
their members money.

Oh and if we really liked going out on strike, we'd wait for the summer,
and the world cup, game of golf in the morning then a match in the pub
in the afternoon;)

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I haven't read LUL,s side of the story on this yet! (have they issued a
statement?) I would like to hear both sides of the story before passing
judgment!

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Kevin wrote:
Could the passengers now also call for a strike
on the basis that tube travel on London is now a complete f**k-up.

No point in dong a one day strike. Just do what me, and four of the
other six people I live with have done and start cycling every day
instead. It's so much less sweaty, quicker and more reliable for most
journeys. Leave the tube for the tourists to suffer

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Hobbayne wrote:
I haven't read LUL,s side of the story on this yet! (have they issued a
statement?) I would like to hear both sides of the story before passing
judgment!

LUs side

LU statement on Tube strike

London Underground today said there was no justification for strike
action announced by the RMT and ASLEF unions.

Responding to the unions' threat of strikes by Tube drivers on February
21 and March 2, a London Underground spokesperson said: "There is no
justification for strike action.


It is unreasonable to call strikes while consultation is taking place

"It is unreasonable to call strikes while consultation is taking place.

"London Underground is not imposing anything on Tube staff. The fact is
that we launched a consultation with all our trade unions on new
harassment, discipline and attendance procedures before Christmas. That
consultation continues.

"It is unreasonable to call strikes while consultation is taking place
on these issues.

"We hope that both unions will continue with talks to sort out these
matters through discussion and consultation."

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On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 18:02:33 GMT, "www.waspies.net"
wrote:

Personally I voted for strike action

****.


--
James Farrar
. @gmail.com

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"James Farrar" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 18:02:33 GMT, "www.waspies.net"
wrote:

Personally I voted for strike action

****.


--
James Farrar
. @gmail.com

There just no getting away from it. You really have got a way with words.

Your not on the LU negotiating team by any chance?

Regards
Clyde

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On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 00:52:49 GMT, "CLYDE DEMPSTER"
wrote:


"James Farrar" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 18:02:33 GMT, "www.waspies.net"
wrote:

Personally I voted for strike action

****.


--
James Farrar
. @gmail.com

There just no getting away from it. You really have got a way with words.

It's an accurate summary of my opinions.

Your not on the LU negotiating team by any chance?

Negotiations? What negotiations? It's straight to ballot these days,
since "industrial relations have broken down"!

--
James Farrar
. @gmail.com

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James Farrar wrote:
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 18:02:33 GMT, "www.waspies.net"
wrote:


Personally I voted for strike action


****.


MOTHER what are you doing on here

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I'm a Driver on the District Line, and an RMT member, I actually voted
against strike action but will abide by the decision to strike because a
union is only as strong as its active membership.

Tunnelrat
"www.waspies.net" wrote in message
...
Tunnelrat wrote:
If being a Train Operator is the cushy number you seem to think it is
then why aren't You training to join us ?
Tunnelrat
"Kevin" wrote in message
oups.com...

I see that those nice underpaid and overworked undreground drivers have
voted for a strike on the basis that industrial relations have
completely broken down. Could the passengers now also call for a strike
on the basis that tube travel on London is now a complete f**k-up.
You would think for the fares that we now pay it wouldn't be too much
to ask that a driver could put off his squash games, manage to stay
awake long enough to actually drive the bloody tube train. They are
paid well enough after all.
Now I will have another bloody row with Silverlink because as they say
it is nothing to do with them that my Watford to all zones travel card
can't be used in zone 1. Anybody would think that when I pay for a
ticket it is on the basis that I actually expect trains to run.

Kevin




Sorry Tunnelrat, but there are plenty of people who would love to do our
job, think that we are overpaid (not by industry standards anymore),
underworked, and actually like going out on strike, the current dispute is
over the imposition of new policies covering sickness, spads etc, they
basically give managers the right to be judge, jury and executioner you
could be sacked just on a mangers suspicion, if these were consultative
documents why were they released on the company intranet, why did they
have implementation dates, the company have said that they want to bring
these policies in to get rid of the ****takers, they already have the
rules to do this but seem to choose not to use them, myself and many of my
colleagues would love to see the ****takers hit hard, it never happens,
WHY?

Personally I voted for strike action, because these policies are draconian
in the extreme, it takes something to get me to vote for a strike, I don't
think it will actually come to ASLEF going out on strike, but the RMT are
a different kettle of fish and like wasting their members money.

Oh and if we really liked going out on strike, we'd wait for the summer,
and the world cup, game of golf in the morning then a match in the pub in
the afternoon;)

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"www.waspies.net" wrote in message
...
Oh and if we really liked going out on strike, we'd wait for the summer,
and the world cup, game of golf in the morning then a match in the pub in
the afternoon;)

So you wouldn't strike on New Years Eve and celebrate the New Year in?

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"James Farrar" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 00:52:49 GMT, "CLYDE DEMPSTER"
wrote:


"James Farrar" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 18:02:33 GMT, "www.waspies.net"
wrote:

Personally I voted for strike action

****.


--
James Farrar
. @gmail.com

There just no getting away from it. You really have got a way with words.

It's an accurate summary of my opinions.

Your not on the LU negotiating team by any chance?

Negotiations? What negotiations? It's straight to ballot these days,
since "industrial relations have broken down"!

--
James Farrar
. @gmail.com

Exactly.

Clyde

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elyob wrote:
"www.waspies.net" wrote in message
...

Oh and if we really liked going out on strike, we'd wait for the summer,
and the world cup, game of golf in the morning then a match in the pub in
the afternoon;)


So you wouldn't strike on New Years Eve and celebrate the New Year in?


New year, not interested, thats for the scots

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No this is not what I meant. "Will this new procedure benefit staff and
passengers?"......"What do LUL hope to achieve by implementing these
new working practices?"
These sort of questions.
LUL have not put across their case in their defence yet, only managing
to annoy brother Bob so far, but we need to hear both sides of the
story!

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Hobbayne wrote:
No this is not what I meant. "Will this new procedure benefit staff and
passengers?"......"What do LUL hope to achieve by implementing these
new working practices?"
These sort of questions.
LUL have not put across their case in their defence yet, only managing
to annoy brother Bob so far, but we need to hear both sides of the
story!

I think what I wrote initally said that it is supposed to hit the
****takers, but it gives far too much power to managers without having a
free and fair system that allows staff to appeal against a decision,
that would be removed under the new system.
Just think of the worst manager you've ever had and trust him/her to
make a decision about your employment!

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"www.waspies.net" wrote in message
...
Personally I voted for strike action, because these policies are draconian
in the extreme, it takes something to get me to vote for a strike, I don't
think it will actually come to ASLEF going out on strike, but the RMT are
a different kettle of fish and like wasting their members money.

**** you. Other people in other jobs don't have to resort to screwing over
the public when there's a strike. ****, even other public transport
companies strike without adverseley affecting the public.

grow up.

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d wrote:
"www.waspies.net" wrote in message
...

Personally I voted for strike action, because these policies are draconian
in the extreme, it takes something to get me to vote for a strike, I don't
think it will actually come to ASLEF going out on strike, but the RMT are
a different kettle of fish and like wasting their members money.


**** you. Other people in other jobs don't have to resort to screwing over
the public when there's a strike. ****, even other public transport
companies strike without adverseley affecting the public.

grow up.


WAH WAH **** OFF d (cant even pick a name) I'm off to work!

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www.waspies.net wrote:
Sorry Tunnelrat, but there are plenty of people who would love to do our
job, think that we are overpaid (not by industry standards anymore),

You are. Compare yourselves to medical staff , police etc. And don't
even bother with the standard issue "well thats up to them/they're
unions
etc" bull**** speech. You're overpaid. End.

Personally I voted for strike action, because these policies are
draconian in the extreme, it takes something to get me to vote for a
strike, I don't think it will actually come to ASLEF going out on
strike, but the RMT are a different kettle of fish and like wasting
their members money.

Something I've always wondered. If you lot down at LU find your jobs
so much hassle and stress that you always want to strike , why don't
you do what everyone else in the working population does when they
hate their jobs and bloody resign? Most people in my industry (IT)
usually move on within 2 - 3 years. Why can't you lot? There are only 2

reasons I can think of:

A) Your job is a cushy number and you all know it so you'll never leave

or

B) You're all too ****ing dim to get employment doing anything else.

Which is it?

B2003

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Boltar wrote:
www.waspies.net wrote:

Sorry Tunnelrat, but there are plenty of people who would love to do our
job, think that we are overpaid (not by industry standards anymore),


You are. Compare yourselves to medical staff , police etc. And don't
even bother with the standard issue "well thats up to them/they're
unions
etc" bull**** speech. You're overpaid. End.


Personally I voted for strike action, because these policies are
draconian in the extreme, it takes something to get me to vote for a
strike, I don't think it will actually come to ASLEF going out on
strike, but the RMT are a different kettle of fish and like wasting
their members money.


Something I've always wondered. If you lot down at LU find your jobs
so much hassle and stress that you always want to strike , why don't
you do what everyone else in the working population does when they
hate their jobs and bloody resign? Most people in my industry (IT)
usually move on within 2 - 3 years. Why can't you lot? There are only 2

reasons I can think of:

A) Your job is a cushy number and you all know it so you'll never leave

or

B) You're all too ****ing dim to get employment doing anything else.

Which is it?

B2003

BOLTAR GIVE US A KISSSSSSSSSS

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On 10 Feb 2006 06:21:13 -0800, "Hobbayne"
wrote:

LUL have not put across their case in their defence yet, only managing
to annoy brother Bob so far

They do an effective job of that just by existing.

--
James Farrar
. @gmail.com

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On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:23:16 GMT, "CLYDE DEMPSTER"
wrote:


"James Farrar" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 00:52:49 GMT, "CLYDE DEMPSTER"
wrote:


"James Farrar" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 18:02:33 GMT, "www.waspies.net"
wrote:

Personally I voted for strike action

****.


--
James Farrar
. @gmail.com

There just no getting away from it. You really have got a way with words.

It's an accurate summary of my opinions.

Your not on the LU negotiating team by any chance?

Negotiations? What negotiations? It's straight to ballot these days,
since "industrial relations have broken down"!

--
James Farrar
. @gmail.com

Exactly.

How about trying negotiating? Or how about waiting until things are
imposed, not merely consulted on?

It's a strange attitude: "you're asking our opinion, so we're going on
strike".

--
James Farrar
. @gmail.com

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BOLTAR GIVE US A KISSSSSSSSSS

I'm just waiting for the day someone gives some striking
drivers a smack. And I'm not talking about the kissing kind.

B2003

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"James Farrar" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:23:16 GMT, "CLYDE DEMPSTER"
wrote:


"James Farrar" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 00:52:49 GMT, "CLYDE DEMPSTER"
wrote:


"James Farrar" wrote in message
m...
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 18:02:33 GMT, "www.waspies.net"
wrote:

Personally I voted for strike action

****.


--
James Farrar
. @gmail.com

There just no getting away from it. You really have got a way with
words.

It's an accurate summary of my opinions.

Your not on the LU negotiating team by any chance?

Negotiations? What negotiations? It's straight to ballot these days,
since "industrial relations have broken down"!

--
James Farrar
. @gmail.com

Exactly.

How about trying negotiating? Or how about waiting until things are
imposed, not merely consulted on?

It's a strange attitude: "you're asking our opinion, so we're going on
strike".

--
James Farrar
. @gmail.com

Thats the point . LU dont want to negotiate so its ended in a ballot and a
yes vote for a strike.

Regards
Clyde

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On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:00:15 GMT, "CLYDE DEMPSTER"
wrote:


"James Farrar" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:23:16 GMT, "CLYDE DEMPSTER"
wrote:


"James Farrar" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 00:52:49 GMT, "CLYDE DEMPSTER"
wrote:


"James Farrar" wrote in message
om...
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 18:02:33 GMT, "www.waspies.net"
wrote:

Personally I voted for strike action

****.


--
James Farrar
. @gmail.com

There just no getting away from it. You really have got a way with
words.

It's an accurate summary of my opinions.

Your not on the LU negotiating team by any chance?

Negotiations? What negotiations? It's straight to ballot these days,
since "industrial relations have broken down"!

Exactly.

How about trying negotiating? Or how about waiting until things are
imposed, not merely consulted on?

It's a strange attitude: "you're asking our opinion, so we're going on
strike".

Thats the point . LU dont want to negotiate so its ended in a ballot and a
yes vote for a strike.

If they didn't want to negotiate, they'd impose policies rather than
consulting on proposals.

Then again, I wouldn't balme them for not wanting to negotiate with
Crow and his cronies who revel in the publicity they get by causing
untold damage to London.

[Signatures trimmed, by the way.]

--
James Farrar
. @gmail.com

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Boltar wrote:
Boltar you're such a star, full of gas.


Mate , if I could have done over a striking driver or 2 on the
last strike and got away with it I would have. Those RMT
******s outside Arnos Grove with their 1970s throwback
banners would have been the first on my list. You morons
have no clue how you seriously **** people off, its all
a ****ing game to you and your witless union. For some
of us its our livelihoods affected. I'm self employed and
if I don't get into work I don't get paid and I don't
appreciate dickheads like you finding it all a big lads-together
laugh.

B2003

Have you actually read what I first wrote?
if not please read my post of 09/02/2006 18:02.

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In message .com,
Boltar writes
Mate , if I could have done over a striking driver or 2 on the last
strike and got away with it I would have. Those RMT ******s outside
Arnos Grove with their 1970s throwback banners would have been the
first on my list. You morons have no clue how you seriously **** people
off, its all a ****ing game to you and your witless union. For some of
us its our livelihoods affected. I'm self employed and if I don't get
into work I don't get paid and I don't appreciate dickheads like you
finding it all a big lads-together laugh
And if they strike they don't get paid a cent more than you. Why not
shut your gob and find out why the discontent?
--
Clive

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"Boltar" wrote in message
oups.com...

www.waspies.net wrote:
Sorry Tunnelrat, but there are plenty of people who would love to do our
job, think that we are overpaid (not by industry standards anymore),

You are. Compare yourselves to medical staff , police etc. And don't
even bother with the standard issue "well thats up to them/they're
unions
etc" bull**** speech. You're overpaid. End.

Can i ask what you have done to improve medical staff and police salaries.
As i have said before i have taken part in marches in support of fire
fighters and, going back, the miners and a good few in between. You would be
very welcome to join us in the future. Somehow i doubt we will see you.

Personally I voted for strike action, because these policies are
draconian in the extreme, it takes something to get me to vote for a
strike, I don't think it will actually come to ASLEF going out on
strike, but the RMT are a different kettle of fish and like wasting
their members money.

Something I've always wondered. If you lot down at LU find your jobs
so much hassle and stress that you always want to strike , why don't
you do what everyone else in the working population does when they
hate their jobs and bloody resign? Most people in my industry (IT)
usually move on within 2 - 3 years. Why can't you lot? There are only 2

reasons I can think of:

A) Your job is a cushy number and you all know it so you'll never leave

or

B) You're all too ****ing dim to get employment doing anything else.

Which is it?

B2003

A tube drivers options are rather limited seeing that there is only LU to
work for plus i dont suppose you would want to pay higher fares for all the
training that would have to be done. So thats a none starter.

So everyone that dosent like there jobs resigns. Thats so wrong its
laughable.

As for moving on every 2 to 3 years that sounds a bit sad to me. Still i
imagine your work mates breath a sigh of relieff that someone as adusive
and, later in this thread, violent as you has moved on.

Clyde

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And if they strike they don't get paid a cent more than you. Why not

Aww , my heart bleeds. Perhaps they should just do their bloody jobs
then.

shut your gob and find out why the discontent?

Discontent? They're a bunch of chancers and troublemakers. If LU is
such a bad employer why don't they just **** off and get another job.

B2003

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Can i ask what you have done to improve medical staff and police salaries.

Nice try , but spinning the argument doesn't work.

As i have said before i have taken part in marches in support of fire
fighters and, going back, the miners and a good few in between. You would be

Yeah , right-on comrade! Up the revolution! What a hero you are.
LU drivers are stil overpaid no matter how many marches they go on to
try and ease their conscience.

very welcome to join us in the future. Somehow i doubt we will see you.

Because I actually just get on and do my job instead of moaning about
it.

A tube drivers options are rather limited seeing that there is only LU to
work for

True , apart from every single TOC in the country not to mention the
glasgow underground and the tyne and wear metro.

i dont suppose you would want to pay higher fares for all the
training that would have to be done. So thats a none starter

Not when I and everyone else is already having to fork out even
more to pay for you lot.

So everyone that dosent like there jobs resigns. Thats so wrong its
laughable.

Welcome to the 21st century you sad socialist dinosaur.

As for moving on every 2 to 3 years that sounds a bit sad to me.

Yeah well, those of us who can move on to something better do.
Other just do nothing about it, sit around and grow mouldy roots and
moan about how unfair life is. Pathetic.

B2003

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In message .com,
Boltar writes
Yeah well, those of us who can move on to something better do. Other
just do nothing about it, sit around and grow mouldy roots and moan
about how unfair life is. Pathetic.
So a qualification in tube driving on a line in London is valid on the
Glasgow Underground or the Newcastle Underground? How thick you are,
how sad. How many times do you want a boot up the backside to realise
that you don't know what you're talking about? Maybe the middle of
next year might help. But I doubt it. I'm prepared to discuss it, if
you dare.
--
Clive

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"Boltar" wrote in message
oups.com...
Can i ask what you have done to improve medical staff and police
salaries.

Nice try , but spinning the argument doesn't work.

No answer there then. I will answer it for you. You do nothing.

As i have said before i have taken part in marches in support of fire
fighters and, going back, the miners and a good few in between.

Yeah , right-on comrade! Up the revolution! What a hero you are.
LU drivers are stil overpaid no matter how many marches they go on to
try and ease their conscience.

Im not after a revolution, im not a hero, im not an LU driver. My conscience
is clear. I do go on marches, im happy to give some of my free time to a
cause worth fighting for. Thats as opposed to do nothing which appears to be
your way.


Because I actually just get on and do my job instead of moaning about
it.

Moaning appears to be a full time occupation for you.

A tube drivers options are rather limited seeing that there is only LU to
work for

True , apart from every single TOC in the country not to mention the
glasgow underground and the tyne and wear metro.

How many vacancies are there on all those companies then? Your advocating
the whole work force moves on. Thats just daft.

i dont suppose you would want to pay higher fares for all the
training that would have to be done. So thats a none starter

Not when I and everyone else is already having to fork out even
more to pay for you lot.

What lot?

So everyone that dosent like there jobs resigns. Thats so wrong its
laughable.

Welcome to the 21st century you sad socialist dinosaur.

No. Its welcome to B2003's view of the 21st century. An incorrect one
thankfully.

As for moving on every 2 to 3 years that sounds a bit sad to me.

Yeah well, those of us who can move on to something better do.
Other just do nothing about it, sit around and grow mouldy roots and
moan about how unfair life is. Pathetic.

B2003

Im very happy doing my job. ive been doing it for 22 years. Thats a concept
you wont be able to understand. As for moaning about how unfair life is
thats all ive read from you about how your life is being sabotaged by other
people.

Im proud to be a train driver, im proud to be a trade unionist. Thats
something else you wont be able to understand.

So, you can moan, groan, whinge, whine and threaten. Were here, were not
going away, so get used to it.

Kind regards
Clyde

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Clive wrote:
In message .com,
Boltar writes
Yeah well, those of us who can move on to something better do. Other
just do nothing about it, sit around and grow mouldy roots and moan
about how unfair life is. Pathetic.
So a qualification in tube driving on a line in London is valid on the
Glasgow Underground or the Newcastle Underground? How thick you are,
how sad. How many times do you want a boot up the backside to realise
that you don't know what you're talking about? Maybe the middle of
next year might help. But I doubt it. I'm prepared to discuss it, if
you dare.

I'm so sorry. I thought an LU driver would have at least the IQ to
retrain
to drive a different sort of train (since I'm sure they want to stay in
the
rail industry so they can still go out on one of Uncle Bobs strikes.)
Apparently not.

B2003

Underground Strike
 

No answer there then. I will answer it for you. You do nothing.

Why should I? Not my problem. No one forces anyone to go into
any form of job in this country. If you chose to go into a job knowing
the pay and conditions don't bloody whinge about it.

Moaning appears to be a full time occupation for you.

Ah , the irony of that statement :o)

Im very happy doing my job. ive been doing it for 22 years. Thats a concept
you wont be able to understand.

I can understand it. You aspire to nothing and can't do anything else.
You're
quite happy to plod along doing the same old thing until you retire.
Nothing
wrong with that , but don't think that gives you some sort of
salt-of-the-earth
self righteousness. It doesn't.

Im proud to be a train driver, im proud to be a trade unionist. Thats
something else you wont be able to understand.

Sure I can. When you want a better deal you don't go out , expend a bit
effort and look for one yourself, far easier to blackmail your
employers
to give you a better deal with the threat of industrial action , like a
spoilt
teenager having a go at his parents Thats all the RMT is about anyway.

So, you can moan, groan, whinge, whine and threaten. Were here, were not
going away, so get used to it.

Really? Perhaps you should take a ride on the DLR sometime and play
spot the
driver.

B2003

Underground Strike
 

"Boltar" wrote in message
oups.com...

Clive wrote:
In message .com,
Boltar writes
Yeah well, those of us who can move on to something better do. Other
just do nothing about it, sit around and grow mouldy roots and moan
about how unfair life is. Pathetic.
So a qualification in tube driving on a line in London is valid on the
Glasgow Underground or the Newcastle Underground? How thick you are,
how sad. How many times do you want a boot up the backside to realise
that you don't know what you're talking about? Maybe the middle of
next year might help. But I doubt it. I'm prepared to discuss it, if
you dare.

I'm so sorry. I thought an LU driver would have at least the IQ to
retrain
to drive a different sort of train (since I'm sure they want to stay in
the
rail industry so they can still go out on one of Uncle Bobs strikes.)
Apparently not.

B2003


I think Victoria line drivers are only qualified to operate lifts elsewhere.
Push buttons to open and close the doors, as I read on a Westinghouse
signalling website!

takes cover

Paul

Underground Strike
 

In message .com,
Boltar writes
I'm so sorry. I thought an LU driver would have at least the IQ to
retrain to drive a different sort of train (since I'm sure they want to
stay in the rail industry so they can still go out on one of Uncle Bobs
strikes.) Apparently not.
I.Q. Don't enter into it my lad. No not, but you're to ignorant to
know the difference.
--
Clive

Underground Strike
 

In message , Paul
Scott writes

"Boltar" wrote in message
roups.com...

Clive wrote:
In message .com,
Boltar writes
Yeah well, those of us who can move on to something better do. Other
just do nothing about it, sit around and grow mouldy roots and moan
about how unfair life is. Pathetic.
So a qualification in tube driving on a line in London is valid on the
Glasgow Underground or the Newcastle Underground? How thick you are,
how sad. How many times do you want a boot up the backside to realise
that you don't know what you're talking about? Maybe the middle of
next year might help. But I doubt it. I'm prepared to discuss it, if
you dare.

I'm so sorry. I thought an LU driver would have at least the IQ to
retrain
to drive a different sort of train (since I'm sure they want to stay in
the
rail industry so they can still go out on one of Uncle Bobs strikes.)
Apparently not.

B2003


I think Victoria line drivers are only qualified to operate lifts elsewhere.
Push buttons to open and close the doors, as I read on a Westinghouse
signalling website!

takes cover

Paul


I never realised this group was as ignorant as Conor, but now I have
learnt just how stupid you lot are. Of course if you're ever in a tube
train that has the lights go out and stop in the middle of nowhere,
you'll all know what to do. (Won't you.)
--
Clive

Underground Strike
 

In message .com,
Boltar writes


Im very happy doing my job. ive been doing it for 22 years. Thats a concept
you wont be able to understand.

Im proud to be a train driver, im proud to be a trade unionist. Thats
something else you wont be able to understand.
You also won't understand that a given recognition isn't recognised by
any other operator.
Really? Perhaps you should take a ride on the DLR sometime and play
spot the
driver.

B2003

Perhaps you should. Or more likely you didn't know that all of the
DLR. conductors are qualified drivers incase of a failure. No that's
to silly, it's way above your intellect.
--
Clive