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barry.irwin1 wrote:
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You need to define "route" and "in London" more precisely, but there is
a route (continuous journey in passenger service in the same train
without reversing) that is wholly within Greater London and takes (or
did so when I last researched it two years ago) 20 hrs 8 min.

Hammersmith (H&C) dep. 04:49
Barking arr. 00:57

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"barry.irwin1" typed


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How do you define 'London'?
Do you mean 'Which route takes the longest to complete?' or 'Which route
is the longest distance?'

Two losers for you:

288 Queensbury - Edgware - Broadfields Estate - Edgware - Queensbury.
305 Edgware - The Hale - Burnt Oak - Kingsbury.

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Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

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Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:
"barry.irwin1" typed


How much running Etc


How do you define 'London'?
Do you mean 'Which route takes the longest to complete?' or 'Which route
is the longest distance?'

Two losers for you:

288 Queensbury - Edgware - Broadfields Estate - Edgware - Queensbury.
305 Edgware - The Hale - Burnt Oak - Kingsbury.

I think a "winner" for length is usually the N47, Trafalgar Square to St
Mary Cray (obviously only a winner at night).

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

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Dave Arquati wrote in :

Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:
"barry.irwin1" typed


How much running Etc


How do you define 'London'?
Do you mean 'Which route takes the longest to complete?' or 'Which route
is the longest distance?'

Two losers for you:

288 Queensbury - Edgware - Broadfields Estate - Edgware - Queensbury.
305 Edgware - The Hale - Burnt Oak - Kingsbury.

I think a "winner" for length is usually the N47, Trafalgar Square to St
Mary Cray (obviously only a winner at night).


Would the shortest be the RV1 from Tower Gateway to Covent Garden?

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Dave Arquati typed


Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:
"barry.irwin1" typed


How much running Etc


How do you define 'London'?
Do you mean 'Which route takes the longest to complete?' or 'Which route
is the longest distance?'

Two losers for you:

288 Queensbury - Edgware - Broadfields Estate - Edgware - Queensbury.
305 Edgware - The Hale - Burnt Oak - Kingsbury.

I think a "winner" for length is usually the N47, Trafalgar Square to St
Mary Cray (obviously only a winner at night).

Does the 607 still run?

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

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"barry.irwin1" wrote in message
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You can find the lengths of every bus route here
http://www.londonbusroutes.net/details.htm

It looks like the longest normal day route in Greater London is the 111
Heathrow - Kingston (25km) and at night the N89 Trafalgar Square - Erith
(34km).

Peter Smyth

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Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:
Dave Arquati typed


Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:
"barry.irwin1" typed


How much running Etc

How do you define 'London'?
Do you mean 'Which route takes the longest to complete?' or 'Which route
is the longest distance?'

Two losers for you:

288 Queensbury - Edgware - Broadfields Estate - Edgware - Queensbury.
305 Edgware - The Hale - Burnt Oak - Kingsbury.

I think a "winner" for length is usually the N47, Trafalgar Square to St
Mary Cray (obviously only a winner at night).

Does the 607 still run?

Yes, good point - probably one of the longest day routes (Shepherd's
Bush to Uxbridge for the uninitiated). The 113 seems pretty long too -
Oxford Circus all the way to Edgware.

The N207 is also a potential candidate amongst the night routes -
Holborn to Uxbridge, it must be one of the longest (and very frequent:
every 10 minutes at the weekends).

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

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Peter Smyth wrote:
"barry.irwin1" wrote in message
...
How much running Etc


You can find the lengths of every bus route here
http://www.londonbusroutes.net/details.htm

It looks like the longest normal day route in Greater London is the 111
Heathrow - Kingston (25km) and at night the N89 Trafalgar Square - Erith
(34km).

....although (unless you count it as abnormal) then the X26 wins at 34km
- which is long as the N89.



--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

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barry.irwin1 wrote:

How much running Etc

The longest Tube journey is on the Central Line, West Ruislip to
Epping, at 54.9 km (34.1 miles).

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barry.irwin1 wrote:

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The longest Tube journey is on the Central Line, West Ruislip to
Epping, at 54.9 km (34.1 miles).


Although 11km or so are not in London but in the Epping Forest district of
Essex.

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On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 15:51:00 GMT, "barry.irwin1"
wrote:

The Circle Line?

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By an odd coincidence, today's N207 Holborn - Uxbridge was previously
numbered N89 until some years ago (although it was then, I believe,
Trafalgar Square - Uxbridge as all night buses then centred on
Trafalgar Square).

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barry.irwin1 wrote:

How much running Etc

The longest Tube journey is on the Central Line, West Ruislip to
Epping, at 54.9 km (34.1 miles).

Can't you do Cockfosters - Cockfosters via the Heathrow loop that would be
longer?

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Andy wrote:

The longest Tube journey is on the Central Line, West Ruislip to
Epping, at 54.9 km (34.1 miles).

Can't you do Cockfosters - Cockfosters via the Heathrow loop that would be
longer?

Are there any services from West Ruslip and back through Hainault and
Woodford?

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writes

"StephenC" wrote in message
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barry.irwin1 wrote:

How much running Etc

The longest Tube journey is on the Central Line, West Ruislip to
Epping, at 54.9 km (34.1 miles).

Can't you do Cockfosters - Cockfosters via the Heathrow loop that would be
longer?

Not until September - the loop's closed for the T5 extension;)
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In message , at 21:28:41 on Wed, 19
Apr 2006, Andy remarked:
The longest Tube journey is on the Central Line, West Ruislip to
Epping, at 54.9 km (34.1 miles).

Can't you do Cockfosters - Cockfosters via the Heathrow loop that would be
longer?

Not at the moment, the loop is closed.
--
Roland Perry

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In message , at 11:59:34 on Wed,
19 Apr 2006, TKD remarked:
The longest Tube journey is on the Central Line, West Ruislip to
Epping, at 54.9 km (34.1 miles).

Although 11km or so are not in London but in the Epping Forest district of
Essex.

When this newsgroup was set up we discussed at great length what the
definition of "London" was. I'm pretty sure we decided that it included
inside the M25 plus all outposts of LUL.

--
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"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 11:59:34 on Wed, 19
Apr 2006, TKD remarked:
The longest Tube journey is on the Central Line, West Ruislip to
Epping, at 54.9 km (34.1 miles).

Although 11km or so are not in London but in the Epping Forest district
of
Essex.

When this newsgroup was set up we discussed at great length what the
definition of "London" was. I'm pretty sure we decided that it included
inside the M25 plus all outposts of LUL.

I very much doubt the OP was using that definition.

What is the longest route in LONDON.... Monday - Friday ?
 

In article ,
Andy wrote:
The longest Tube journey is on the Central Line, West Ruislip to
Epping, at 54.9 km (34.1 miles).

Can't you do Cockfosters - Cockfosters via the Heathrow loop that would be
longer?

If you're lucky you can probably do somewhere-in-west-london and
back again on the central line via it's loop - or do they turf
passengers out of those trains?


--
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On Thu, 20 Apr 2006, Roland Perry wrote:

In message , at 11:59:34 on Wed, 19 Apr
2006, TKD remarked:

The longest Tube journey is on the Central Line, West Ruislip to
Epping, at 54.9 km (34.1 miles).

Although 11km or so are not in London but in the Epping Forest district
of Essex.

When this newsgroup was set up we discussed at great length what the
definition of "London" was. I'm pretty sure we decided that it included
inside the M25 plus all outposts of LUL.

Does that mean we're not allowed to discuss the London Regional Rail
Authority? :)

Incidentally, can anyone find a copy of the proposed LRRA boundary map?
It's disappeared from TfL's site.

tom

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Mike Bristow wrote:

The longest Tube journey is on the Central Line, West Ruislip to
Epping, at 54.9 km (34.1 miles).

Can't you do Cockfosters - Cockfosters via the Heathrow loop that would
be
longer?

If you're lucky you can probably do somewhere-in-west-london and
back again on the central line via it's loop - or do they turf
passengers out of those trains?

I can't actually recall seeing services advertised on the indicators as
running through to Hainault-Woodford (other than on days when part of the
loop is out of service and the rest is being treated as a standard branch
from Woodford) and the last time I was at Hainault the train terminated and
a different one came in for Woodford.

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Tim Roll-Pickering wrote:
Mike Bristow wrote:

The longest Tube journey is on the Central Line, West Ruislip to
Epping, at 54.9 km (34.1 miles).

Can't you do Cockfosters - Cockfosters via the Heathrow loop that would
be
longer?

If you're lucky you can probably do somewhere-in-west-london and
back again on the central line via it's loop - or do they turf
passengers out of those trains?

I can't actually recall seeing services advertised on the indicators as
running through to Hainault-Woodford (other than on days when part of the
loop is out of service and the rest is being treated as a standard branch
from Woodford) and the last time I was at Hainault the train terminated and
a different one came in for Woodford.

At the moment there are weekend engineering works somewhere around
Redbridge which close part of the loop in one direction at a time, so
trains have been running to Woodford via Newbury Park (and presumably
therefore back to London via Snaresbrook, because they can't go the
other way around the loop).

When the work switches to the inner rail, I imagine trains will travel
to Hainault via Woodford and thence straight back to London via Newbury
Park.

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

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In article ,
Tim Roll-Pickering wrote:
Mike Bristow wrote:
If you're lucky you can probably do somewhere-in-west-london and
back again on the central line via it's loop - or do they turf
passengers out of those trains?

I can't actually recall seeing services advertised on the indicators as
running through to Hainault-Woodford

I've seen services going through Leytstone as on the boards as
Woodford via Hainault. I think there's a 3 or 4 TPH service doing
that route. But I don't know if those trains turn into city-bound
trains at some point on the loop, or if they terminate at Woodford.

--
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In message , at 16:49:53 on Thu,
20 Apr 2006, TKD remarked:
When this newsgroup was set up we discussed at great length what the
definition of "London" was. I'm pretty sure we decided that it included
inside the M25 plus all outposts of LUL.

I very much doubt the OP was using that definition.

Well, this is uk.transport.LONDON, and we have this definition of
"London"...
--
Roland Perry

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In message , at
19:25:28 on Thu, 20 Apr 2006, Tom Anderson
remarked:
When this newsgroup was set up we discussed at great length what the
definition of "London" was. I'm pretty sure we decided that it
included inside the M25 plus all outposts of LUL.

Does that mean we're not allowed to discuss the London Regional Rail
Authority? :)

Maybe you could get a consensus to change the definition. When the
newsgroup was set up, it seemed important to include more than just the
administrative London, or more than just the "020" phone area, and even
more than "inside the M25". But you do have to stop somewhere.
--
Roland Perry

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Mike Bristow wrote:
In article ,
Andy wrote:
The longest Tube journey is on the Central Line, West Ruislip to
Epping, at 54.9 km (34.1 miles).

Can't you do Cockfosters - Cockfosters via the Heathrow loop that
would be longer?

If you're lucky you can probably do somewhere-in-west-london and
back again on the central line via it's loop - or do they turf
passengers out of those trains?

But it would still be shorter than the Hammersmith-Barking route that I
posted in this thread on 18 April, which involves 20 laps of the Circle
Line.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

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Mike Bristow wrote:

I can't actually recall seeing services advertised on the indicators as
running through to Hainault-Woodford

I've seen services going through Leytstone as on the boards as
Woodford via Hainault. I think there's a 3 or 4 TPH service doing
that route. But I don't know if those trains turn into city-bound
trains at some point on the loop, or if they terminate at Woodford.

Wouldn't a once round the loop service potentially cause Circle Line style
chaos on the line, being so long and potential to delaying other routes?

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In article ,
(Roland Perry) wrote:

In message , at
19:25:28 on Thu, 20 Apr 2006, Tom Anderson
remarked:
When this newsgroup was set up we discussed at great length what
the definition of "London" was. I'm pretty sure we decided that
it included inside the M25 plus all outposts of LUL.

Does that mean we're not allowed to discuss the London Regional Rail
Authority? :)

Maybe you could get a consensus to change the definition. When the
newsgroup was set up, it seemed important to include more than just
the administrative London, or more than just the "020" phone area,
and even more than "inside the M25". But you do have to stop
somewhere.

Not Nottingham or Cambridge then? ;-)

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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In message , at
02:10:00 on Fri, 21 Apr 2006, Colin Rosenstiel
remarked:
Maybe you could get a consensus to change the definition. When the
newsgroup was set up, it seemed important to include more than just
the administrative London, or more than just the "020" phone area,
and even more than "inside the M25". But you do have to stop
somewhere.

Not Nottingham or Cambridge then? ;-)

Nope. There's a charter here [1] which stops a long way from either.
Although journeys with one end in London seem to qualify (eg Gatwick to
Richmond).

[1] Usenet not train.
--
Roland Perry

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"Mike Bristow" wrote in message
...

If you're lucky you can probably do somewhere-in-west-london
and back again on the central line via it's loop - or do they turf
passengers out of those trains?

The timetable a few years ago didn't include any trains which did that, but
maybe when the service is disrupted it might happen.

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"Andy" wrote in


Can't you do Cockfosters - Cockfosters via the Heathrow loop that
would be
longer?

On that principle, how many times could you go round the Cricle Line
before they chuck you off.

Jeremy Parker

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Jeremy Parker wrote:
"Andy" wrote in


Can't you do Cockfosters - Cockfosters via the Heathrow loop that
would be longer?

On that principle, how many times could you go round the Cricle Line
before they chuck you off.

About 20. See my earlier posts in this thread.
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(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)