Edward Cowling London UK wrote:

I thought part of the deal with the congestion charge was Ken got his £8
quid a go (A fiver then) and we got a decent transport system. This one
we've got appears to be disintegrating.

ITYM "Ken got his 8 quid a go and we got a load of new buses". The
Tube hasn't had as much to do with it, I believe.

The main beneficiaries of that, other than bus users of course, are the
main UK bus companies who have been benefitting from a good second-hand
market in decent buses that have been appearing all over the country.

Neil

The HamCity line is pretty disastrous: I have to go from Paddington to
Baker Street every day on my way home and change from an Ealing
Broadway FGW/HC train. Often the overground train will pull up
alongside the HamCity platforms but it is still easier to walk all the
way to the Bakerloo Line than wait for the HamCity. Even when it does
turn up (and, bizarrely, for a low freq tube service at a mainline
station, there are no time screens) it often waits at Edgware Road for
5 minutes.

My solution would be to trim the HamCity so that it only runs to
Edgware Road and turns round there. Increase the frequency to
10-15/hour.

Jase

wrote:
The HamCity line is pretty disastrous: I have to go from Paddington to
Baker Street every day on my way home and change from an Ealing
Broadway FGW/HC train. Often the overground train will pull up
alongside the HamCity platforms but it is still easier to walk all the
way to the Bakerloo Line than wait for the HamCity. Even when it does
turn up (and, bizarrely, for a low freq tube service at a mainline
station, there are no time screens) it often waits at Edgware Road for
5 minutes.

My solution would be to trim the HamCity so that it only runs to
Edgware Road and turns round there. Increase the frequency to
10-15/hour.

No, that would make it worse than useless... trainloads of people
wanting to go to the City being turfed out at Edgware Road onto the
Circle line.

Maybe it should become a Crossrail branch - then all those trains that
will be wasted by terminating them at Paddington from the east can carry
on to somewhere useful. The only problem is that in order to extend the
platforms, Goldhawk Road, Shepherd's Bush and the forthcoming White City
might just end up being the same station...


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I find using the Central & Victoria lines to get from
Shepherd's Bush to UCL (via Warren St) vastly superior to the H&C

Blimey. A trip involving a rush-hour change at Oxford Circus
is better? I

I used to use it KX to Shep Bush (office is closer to the H&C station)
but the 8.5 min frequency means even including the walk the central is
quicker. I can never hit a known NR train fom KX on the H&C but via OXO
is predictible (and of course a cancelled H&C means a missed NR and a
half hour wait for the next one!).

H&C KX to Shep Bush is 18 mins (26.5 if you just miss one and 35 if the
next is cancelled!). Vic/Central is 16.5 (plus the change at OXO).
Trains every 2 mins so cancellations don't have too much of an effect.

D

wrote:

My solution would be to trim the HamCity so that it only runs to
Edgware Road and turns round there. Increase the frequency to
10-15/hour.

What about traffic from the north side of the circle to east London? I
routinely travel between Euston Square and Stepney Green - how would I make
the journey under this?

In message , Edward Cowling London UK
wrote:

or another way for the LU management to have a pop at the private
enterprise scheme put in place by Ken ? Whatever as always the
public seem to get caught in the middle of these things.

Ken opposed the PPP scheme.

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James Farrar wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:27:15 +0100, Timothy Baldwin
wrote:

In message , Edward Cowling London UK
wrote:

or another way for the LU management to have a pop at the private
enterprise scheme put in place by Ken ? Whatever as always the
public seem to get caught in the middle of these things.
Ken opposed the PPP scheme.

Until he got into power, when he promptly threw in the towel.

He was opposing the scheme whilst he was in power - he was working
against it in the courts until they ruled against him. After that, LU
was transferred to TfL with the PPP in place, and he had no choice but
to work with it.

When Ken came to power in 2000, he had control over TfL but TfL did not
have control over LU.

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Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London