Driving into London from Dorking
 

Hello Everyone,

I'm planning a trip to England, will be there very soon and was trying to
figure a way into the city without having to take the rail (4 of us costs
over 30 pounds) or drive all the way there, since parking can be either a
nightmare, very very expensive, or just plain impossible.

Can anyone (or everyone) suggest to me the best way to drive to let's say to
a distant tube station, park for the day, and take the tube into the city?

I'm coming from the Dorking area and would greatly appreciate cost effective
ways to get as close to London as possible without hitting its main
congestion.

Thank You,

-D

Driving into London from Dorking
 

vicki.dietz wrote:
Hello Everyone,

I'm planning a trip to England, will be there very soon and was trying to
figure a way into the city without having to take the rail (4 of us costs
over 30 pounds) or drive all the way there, since parking can be either a
nightmare, very very expensive, or just plain impossible.

Can anyone (or everyone) suggest to me the best way to drive to let's say to
a distant tube station, park for the day, and take the tube into the city?

I'm coming from the Dorking area and would greatly appreciate cost effective
ways to get as close to London as possible without hitting its main
congestion.

Thank You,



How much more is a day travelcard from Dorking (ie including return
from Dorking to Boundary Zone 6 and an all zones travelcard) than an
all zones day travelcard from wherever you can drive to?

I just think that you would spend quite a lot of the £30 on travel
within London anyway, even having driven part of the way (with all the
hassle of parking instead of just staying on a train).

Driving into London from Dorking
 

"MIG" wrote in message
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vicki.dietz wrote:
Hello Everyone,

I'm planning a trip to England, will be there very soon and was trying to
figure a way into the city without having to take the rail (4 of us costs
over 30 pounds) or drive all the way there, since parking can be either a
nightmare, very very expensive, or just plain impossible.

Can anyone (or everyone) suggest to me the best way to drive to let's say
to
a distant tube station, park for the day, and take the tube into the city?

I'm coming from the Dorking area and would greatly appreciate cost
effective
ways to get as close to London as possible without hitting its main
congestion.

Thank You,



How much more is a day travelcard from Dorking (ie including return
from Dorking to Boundary Zone 6 and an all zones travelcard) than an
all zones day travelcard from wherever you can drive to?

I just think that you would spend quite a lot of the £30 on travel
within London anyway, even having driven part of the way (with all the
hassle of parking instead of just staying on a train).

That's a very good question. Sorry I didn't mention. We will also be
buying Travelcards (an additional 25 pounds) regardless if we take the rail
or drive and park. This is because once we get into London, we plan on
doing a lot of sightseeing and traveling around (which would require
Travelcards). Am I correct in this reasoning?

-D

Driving into London from Dorking
 

vicki.dietz wrote:
"MIG" wrote in message
ups.com...

vicki.dietz wrote:
Hello Everyone,

I'm planning a trip to England, will be there very soon and was trying to
figure a way into the city without having to take the rail (4 of us costs
over 30 pounds) or drive all the way there, since parking can be either a
nightmare, very very expensive, or just plain impossible.

Can anyone (or everyone) suggest to me the best way to drive to let's say
to
a distant tube station, park for the day, and take the tube into the city?

I'm coming from the Dorking area and would greatly appreciate cost
effective
ways to get as close to London as possible without hitting its main
congestion.

Thank You,



How much more is a day travelcard from Dorking (ie including return
from Dorking to Boundary Zone 6 and an all zones travelcard) than an
all zones day travelcard from wherever you can drive to?

I just think that you would spend quite a lot of the £30 on travel
within London anyway, even having driven part of the way (with all the
hassle of parking instead of just staying on a train).

That's a very good question. Sorry I didn't mention. We will also be
buying Travelcards (an additional 25 pounds) regardless if we take the rail
or drive and park. This is because once we get into London, we plan on
doing a lot of sightseeing and traveling around (which would require
Travelcards). Am I correct in this reasoning?

-D

You can get travelcard from Dorking at £11.40 which covers a day
return to London (arr after 1000) and unlimited travel in zones 1-6
when you get there - so it's not an extra £25 for travelcards, only
half that.
Looked at the other way, you are only paying £5 each for the train
over and above what you would be paying for separate travelcards.

Travelcards combining a day return to the city and z1-6 are available
from all stations in the outer London area and on many lines quite a
lot further out. They are cheaper than buying separate rail and
travelcard tickets.

Driving into London from Dorking
 

wrote in message
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vicki.dietz wrote:
"MIG" wrote in message
ups.com...

vicki.dietz wrote:
Hello Everyone,

I'm planning a trip to England, will be there very soon and was trying
to
figure a way into the city without having to take the rail (4 of us
costs
over 30 pounds) or drive all the way there, since parking can be either
a
nightmare, very very expensive, or just plain impossible.

Can anyone (or everyone) suggest to me the best way to drive to let's
say
to
a distant tube station, park for the day, and take the tube into the
city?

I'm coming from the Dorking area and would greatly appreciate cost
effective
ways to get as close to London as possible without hitting its main
congestion.

Thank You,



How much more is a day travelcard from Dorking (ie including return
from Dorking to Boundary Zone 6 and an all zones travelcard) than an
all zones day travelcard from wherever you can drive to?

I just think that you would spend quite a lot of the £30 on travel
within London anyway, even having driven part of the way (with all the
hassle of parking instead of just staying on a train).

That's a very good question. Sorry I didn't mention. We will also be
buying Travelcards (an additional 25 pounds) regardless if we take the
rail
or drive and park. This is because once we get into London, we plan on
doing a lot of sightseeing and traveling around (which would require
Travelcards). Am I correct in this reasoning?

-D

You can get travelcard from Dorking at £11.40 which covers a day
return to London (arr after 1000) and unlimited travel in zones 1-6
when you get there - so it's not an extra £25 for travelcards, only
half that.
Looked at the other way, you are only paying £5 each for the train
over and above what you would be paying for separate travelcards.

Travelcards combining a day return to the city and z1-6 are available
from all stations in the outer London area and on many lines quite a
lot further out. They are cheaper than buying separate rail and
travelcard tickets.


This is very helpful information. Thank you. Is there a website that you
can refer me to check prices/purchase tickets?

Thanks,

-D

Driving into London from Dorking
 

vicki.dietz wrote:
"MIG" wrote in message
ups.com...

vicki.dietz wrote:
Hello Everyone,

I'm planning a trip to England, will be there very soon and was trying to
figure a way into the city without having to take the rail (4 of us costs
over 30 pounds) or drive all the way there, since parking can be either a
nightmare, very very expensive, or just plain impossible.

Can anyone (or everyone) suggest to me the best way to drive to let's say
to
a distant tube station, park for the day, and take the tube into the city?

I'm coming from the Dorking area and would greatly appreciate cost
effective
ways to get as close to London as possible without hitting its main
congestion.

How much more is a day travelcard from Dorking (ie including return
from Dorking to Boundary Zone 6 and an all zones travelcard) than an
all zones day travelcard from wherever you can drive to?

I just think that you would spend quite a lot of the £30 on travel
within London anyway, even having driven part of the way (with all the
hassle of parking instead of just staying on a train).

That's a very good question. Sorry I didn't mention. We will also be
buying Travelcards (an additional 25 pounds) regardless if we take the rail
or drive and park. This is because once we get into London, we plan on
doing a lot of sightseeing and traveling around (which would require
Travelcards). Am I correct in this reasoning?

Day Travelcards from Dorking are £11.40 (offpeak). A travelcard from
somewhere within London's six zones, like Chessington South, would be
£6.30 off-peak.

There aren't really any Tube stations near enough to Dorking to be worth
travelling to over a suburban railway station - and the ticket price
would be pretty similar.

However, there is a group discount called GroupSave available on tickets
from outside London (e.g. Dorking) - 3 or 4 adults travel for the price
of 2, which would make the total cost from Dorking £22.80 or £5.70 per
person (i.e. cheaper than driving somewhere else, even without taking
into account the cost of parking). Given that you need to buy
travelcards upon arrival in London anyway, this is by far the best
option - it is almost certainly the cheapest and most hassle-free.

Details of the GroupSave discount are available at
http://www.daysoutguide.co.uk/groupsave.aspx

It's worth noting that you can also get 2 for 1 entry at a number of
attractions in London from that website.

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

Driving into London from Dorking
 

On 9 Jul 2006 11:08:03 -0700, wrote:

You can get travelcard from Dorking at £11.40 which covers a day
return to London (arr after 1000) and unlimited travel in zones 1-6
when you get there - so it's not an extra £25 for travelcards, only
half that.

GroupSave applies to off-peak ODTCs in the former NSE area, so all 4
could travel for the price of 2 tickets (£22.80 total).

Driving into London from Dorking
 

Thank you, David. Much appreciated.

-D


"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
...
vicki.dietz wrote:
"MIG" wrote in message
ups.com...

vicki.dietz wrote:
Hello Everyone,

I'm planning a trip to England, will be there very soon and was trying
to
figure a way into the city without having to take the rail (4 of us
costs
over 30 pounds) or drive all the way there, since parking can be either
a
nightmare, very very expensive, or just plain impossible.

Can anyone (or everyone) suggest to me the best way to drive to let's
say to
a distant tube station, park for the day, and take the tube into the
city?

I'm coming from the Dorking area and would greatly appreciate cost
effective
ways to get as close to London as possible without hitting its main
congestion.

How much more is a day travelcard from Dorking (ie including return
from Dorking to Boundary Zone 6 and an all zones travelcard) than an
all zones day travelcard from wherever you can drive to?

I just think that you would spend quite a lot of the £30 on travel
within London anyway, even having driven part of the way (with all the
hassle of parking instead of just staying on a train).

That's a very good question. Sorry I didn't mention. We will also be
buying Travelcards (an additional 25 pounds) regardless if we take the
rail or drive and park. This is because once we get into London, we plan
on doing a lot of sightseeing and traveling around (which would require
Travelcards). Am I correct in this reasoning?

Day Travelcards from Dorking are £11.40 (offpeak). A travelcard from
somewhere within London's six zones, like Chessington South, would be
£6.30 off-peak.

There aren't really any Tube stations near enough to Dorking to be worth
travelling to over a suburban railway station - and the ticket price would
be pretty similar.

However, there is a group discount called GroupSave available on tickets
from outside London (e.g. Dorking) - 3 or 4 adults travel for the price of
2, which would make the total cost from Dorking £22.80 or £5.70 per person
(i.e. cheaper than driving somewhere else, even without taking into
account the cost of parking). Given that you need to buy travelcards upon
arrival in London anyway, this is by far the best option - it is almost
certainly the cheapest and most hassle-free.

Details of the GroupSave discount are available at
http://www.daysoutguide.co.uk/groupsave.aspx

It's worth noting that you can also get 2 for 1 entry at a number of
attractions in London from that website.

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

Driving into London from Dorking
 

Dave,

I can't seem to locate where i would make a purchase using the Groupsave.
it discusses it, but where do I actually purchase tickets?


Thanks,
-D





"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
...
vicki.dietz wrote:
"MIG" wrote in message
ups.com...

vicki.dietz wrote:
Hello Everyone,

I'm planning a trip to England, will be there very soon and was trying
to
figure a way into the city without having to take the rail (4 of us
costs
over 30 pounds) or drive all the way there, since parking can be either
a
nightmare, very very expensive, or just plain impossible.

Can anyone (or everyone) suggest to me the best way to drive to let's
say to
a distant tube station, park for the day, and take the tube into the
city?

I'm coming from the Dorking area and would greatly appreciate cost
effective
ways to get as close to London as possible without hitting its main
congestion.

How much more is a day travelcard from Dorking (ie including return
from Dorking to Boundary Zone 6 and an all zones travelcard) than an
all zones day travelcard from wherever you can drive to?

I just think that you would spend quite a lot of the £30 on travel
within London anyway, even having driven part of the way (with all the
hassle of parking instead of just staying on a train).

That's a very good question. Sorry I didn't mention. We will also be
buying Travelcards (an additional 25 pounds) regardless if we take the
rail or drive and park. This is because once we get into London, we plan
on doing a lot of sightseeing and traveling around (which would require
Travelcards). Am I correct in this reasoning?

Day Travelcards from Dorking are £11.40 (offpeak). A travelcard from
somewhere within London's six zones, like Chessington South, would be
£6.30 off-peak.

There aren't really any Tube stations near enough to Dorking to be worth
travelling to over a suburban railway station - and the ticket price would
be pretty similar.

However, there is a group discount called GroupSave available on tickets
from outside London (e.g. Dorking) - 3 or 4 adults travel for the price of
2, which would make the total cost from Dorking £22.80 or £5.70 per person
(i.e. cheaper than driving somewhere else, even without taking into
account the cost of parking). Given that you need to buy travelcards upon
arrival in London anyway, this is by far the best option - it is almost
certainly the cheapest and most hassle-free.

Details of the GroupSave discount are available at
http://www.daysoutguide.co.uk/groupsave.aspx

It's worth noting that you can also get 2 for 1 entry at a number of
attractions in London from that website.

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

Driving into London from Dorking
 

"asdf" wrote in message
...
On 9 Jul 2006 11:08:03 -0700, wrote:

You can get travelcard from Dorking at £11.40 which covers a day
return to London (arr after 1000) and unlimited travel in zones 1-6
when you get there - so it's not an extra £25 for travelcards, only
half that.

GroupSave applies to off-peak ODTCs in the former NSE area, so all 4
could travel for the price of 2 tickets (£22.80 total).


This is what David said, too. But I can't locate where to buy the tickets
online.


Thanks,,-D

Driving into London from Dorking
 

You buy them at Dorking station on the day - there's no point in buying
in advance. They are no cheaper and there's a hefty admin/refund fee if
your plans change. Just turn up 15 minutes early in case there's a queue

Driving into London from Dorking
 

wrote in message
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You buy them at Dorking station on the day - there's no point in buying
in advance. They are no cheaper and there's a hefty admin/refund fee if
your plans change. Just turn up 15 minutes early in case there's a queue



I see. Where did you and David get specific pricing information? Even if I
buy them at the station, I would like to price various trips. Could you
direct me to a website?

Thanks,

-D

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vicki.dietz wrote:
wrote in message
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You buy them at Dorking station on the day - there's no point in buying
in advance. They are no cheaper and there's a hefty admin/refund fee if
your plans change. Just turn up 15 minutes early in case there's a queue



I see. Where did you and David get specific pricing information? Even if I
buy them at the station, I would like to price various trips. Could you
direct me to a website?

Thanks,

-D

http://www.chilternrailways.co.uk/co...nID=buyTickets

will give you the fares and offers the one day travelcard option where
it's available. The travelcard option only shows up a month in advance
so it's no good for a long way ahead. For planning purposes just put a
nearer date if this is the case. The trains won't change much if at all
- but bear in mind that Saturdays and Sundays have separate timetables
to the rest of the week.

David gave you a website about groupsave - it will be difficult to get
more than just general information on line about this.
Don't worry about it being Chiltern Railways - it will give you any
journey.

Driving into London from Dorking
 

Thank you very much for the information. I have but one more question I'll
ask you, as I don't want to be too much of a bother.

I think I'll by the Day Travelcards from Dorking to London as Dave suggested
using the Groupsave. I'll buy them at Dorking rather than online, as you
suggested.

Will I buy the return ticket at Dorking as well, or must I wait until I'm at
the station in London to buy the return ticket and would this be a Day
Travelcard ticket as well?

Thanks,

-D



wrote in message
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vicki.dietz wrote:
wrote in message
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You buy them at Dorking station on the day - there's no point in buying
in advance. They are no cheaper and there's a hefty admin/refund fee if
your plans change. Just turn up 15 minutes early in case there's a
queue



I see. Where did you and David get specific pricing information? Even
if I
buy them at the station, I would like to price various trips. Could you
direct me to a website?

Thanks,

-D

http://www.chilternrailways.co.uk/co...nID=buyTickets

will give you the fares and offers the one day travelcard option where
it's available. The travelcard option only shows up a month in advance
so it's no good for a long way ahead. For planning purposes just put a
nearer date if this is the case. The trains won't change much if at all
- but bear in mind that Saturdays and Sundays have separate timetables
to the rest of the week.

David gave you a website about groupsave - it will be difficult to get
more than just general information on line about this.
Don't worry about it being Chiltern Railways - it will give you any
journey.

Driving into London from Dorking
 

"vicki.dietz" wrote in message
news:spdsg.10626$Nv.3173@fed1read10...

Thank you very much for the information. I have but one more question
I'll ask you, as I don't want to be too much of a bother.

I think I'll by the Day Travelcards from Dorking to London as Dave
suggested using the Groupsave. I'll buy them at Dorking rather than
online, as you suggested.

Will I buy the return ticket at Dorking as well, or must I wait until I'm
at the station in London to buy the return ticket and would this be a Day
Travelcard ticket as well?

Thanks,

-D

The Day Travelcard covers your journey from Dorking into London, travel
around London, and your return journey back to Dorking.
--
David Biddulph

Driving into London from Dorking
 

"David Biddulph" wrote in message
...
"vicki.dietz" wrote in message
news:spdsg.10626$Nv.3173@fed1read10...

Thank you very much for the information. I have but one more question
I'll ask you, as I don't want to be too much of a bother.

I think I'll by the Day Travelcards from Dorking to London as Dave
suggested using the Groupsave. I'll buy them at Dorking rather than
online, as you suggested.

Will I buy the return ticket at Dorking as well, or must I wait until I'm
at the station in London to buy the return ticket and would this be a Day
Travelcard ticket as well?

Thanks,

-D

The Day Travelcard covers your journey from Dorking into London, travel
around London, and your return journey back to Dorking.




Wow! Four people traveling to and from London from Dorking, unlimited use
of the Tube, all for 23 pounds, that's incredible. I can only hope they
don't stop their GroupSave offer before August!


Thanks everyone for the valuable info...you've saved me quite a headache!


-D

Driving into London from Dorking
 

vicki.dietz wrote:
"David Biddulph" wrote in message
...
"vicki.dietz" wrote in message
news:spdsg.10626$Nv.3173@fed1read10...

Thank you very much for the information. I have but one more question
I'll ask you, as I don't want to be too much of a bother.

I think I'll by the Day Travelcards from Dorking to London as Dave
suggested using the Groupsave. I'll buy them at Dorking rather than
online, as you suggested.

Will I buy the return ticket at Dorking as well, or must I wait until I'm
at the station in London to buy the return ticket and would this be a Day
Travelcard ticket as well?

Thanks,

-D

The Day Travelcard covers your journey from Dorking into London, travel
around London, and your return journey back to Dorking.




Wow! Four people traveling to and from London from Dorking, unlimited use
of the Tube, all for 23 pounds, that's incredible. I can only hope they
don't stop their GroupSave offer before August!


Thanks everyone for the valuable info...you've saved me quite a headache!


-D
The only catch is you MUST travel together at all times - you can't
split up and do your own things. Not sure exactly how it works - you
may only get one ticket (piece of paper) between you.
Glad to have been of help

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wrote in message
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vicki.dietz wrote:
"David Biddulph" wrote in message
...
"vicki.dietz" wrote in message
news:spdsg.10626$Nv.3173@fed1read10...

Thank you very much for the information. I have but one more question
I'll ask you, as I don't want to be too much of a bother.

I think I'll by the Day Travelcards from Dorking to London as Dave
suggested using the Groupsave. I'll buy them at Dorking rather than
online, as you suggested.

Will I buy the return ticket at Dorking as well, or must I wait until
I'm
at the station in London to buy the return ticket and would this be a
Day
Travelcard ticket as well?

Thanks,

-D

The Day Travelcard covers your journey from Dorking into London, travel
around London, and your return journey back to Dorking.




Wow! Four people traveling to and from London from Dorking, unlimited
use
of the Tube, all for 23 pounds, that's incredible. I can only hope they
don't stop their GroupSave offer before August!


Thanks everyone for the valuable info...you've saved me quite a headache!


-D
The only catch is you MUST travel together at all times - you can't
split up and do your own things. Not sure exactly how it works - you
may only get one ticket (piece of paper) between you.
Glad to have been of help


Traveling together is exactly what we had planned. You've all been very
helpful. I owe everyone a pub lunch!


:-)


-D

Driving into London from Dorking
 

vicki.dietz wrote:

"David Biddulph" wrote in message

The Day Travelcard covers your journey from Dorking into London, travel
around London, and your return journey back to Dorking.


Wow! Four people traveling to and from London from Dorking, unlimited use
of the Tube, all for 23 pounds, that's incredible. I can only hope they
don't stop their GroupSave offer before August!


The Travelcard will also allow use of both buses and also the suburban
overground rail network in all of London (as your Travelcards will be
valid in all 6 zones), though during a day trip I'd think it unlikely
that you'd need to use the overground train network (apart from your
journey from Dorking of course). A Travelcard will also get you 1/3 off
many riverboat fares (the fares depend on the operator) - a riverboat
is a great way to get to or from Greenwich, for example.

I'm not aware of any plans to stop the GroupSave offer - it's not a
short term offer but a long running promotion, it's been available for
a good 18 months at least. The inclusion of Travelcards is a new thing,
but it won't suddenly be withdrawn.

GroupSave also applies to other rail tickets in the South East of
England. However if you're planning any longer distance rail journeys
in the UK (outside of the South East) it's a different situation -
booking in advance will save you money, the bigger savings being
available the earlier you book. Again you can buy such tickets through
the 'Chiltern Railways' website.

If you just want train times then you can get them by using the journey
planner he
http://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/JourneyPlanner.asp

Driving into London from Dorking
 

Dave Arquati wrote:

However, there is a group discount called GroupSave available on tickets
from outside London (e.g. Dorking) - 3 or 4 adults travel for the price
of 2, which would make the total cost from Dorking £22.80 or £5.70 per
person (i.e. cheaper than driving somewhere else, even without taking
into account the cost of parking). Given that you need to buy
travelcards upon arrival in London anyway, this is by far the best
option - it is almost certainly the cheapest and most hassle-free.

Details of the GroupSave discount are available at
http://www.daysoutguide.co.uk/groupsave.aspx

It's worth noting that you can also get 2 for 1 entry at a number of
attractions in London from that website.


I didn't know GroupSave applied to Travelcards (I hardly even have the
need to buy a Travelcard outside of London), this is a new thing right?
It's a pretty good deal.

Of course it would become less of a bargain if any other train
companies decide to follow First Capital Connect's evening rush-hour
restrictions on off-peak tickets. I'm merely speculating as I've heard
nothing nothing of the sort, but once the taboo has been broken by one
operator, then it becomes easier for the others to follow.

Driving into London from Dorking
 

On 9 Jul 2006 17:00:11 -0700, Mizter T wrote:

I didn't know GroupSave applied to Travelcards (I hardly even have the
need to buy a Travelcard outside of London), this is a new thing right?
It's a pretty good deal.

Of course it would become less of a bargain if any other train
companies decide to follow First Capital Connect's evening rush-hour
restrictions on off-peak tickets.

Indeed - all the more so as there's no GroupSave on SDRs, even after
10am.

Driving into London from Dorking
 

vicki.dietz wrote:

Traveling together is exactly what we had planned. You've all been
very helpful. I owe everyone a pub lunch!

I would have given the same answers if I had been here. Where do we
meet for this lunch?



--
Bob

Driving into London from Dorking
 

vicki.dietz wrote:
Wow! Four people traveling to and from London from Dorking, unlimited use
of the Tube, all for 23 pounds, that's incredible. I can only hope they
don't stop their GroupSave offer before August!


Thanks everyone for the valuable info...you've saved me quite a headache!


Indeed. It's a shame the TOCs don't publicise GroupSave better: it
frequently makes the difference between driving and getting the train
for an off-peak SE journey; and usually my friends - even the ones who
commute daily on public transport - are as surprised as the OP to hear
about its existence.

Maybe the TOCs have worked out that they raise more money by getting
group travellers to pay unnecessarily high fares than they would by
attracting new customers off the roads. Or maybe they're just inept.

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org

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Mizter T wrote:

Of note is that GroupSave is available on Central Trains but only
between Peterborough and Stansted Airport.

Not so! GroupSave is available in almost all of the Central Trains
area. The only journeys that do not qualify for GroupSave are those
which are wholly in the WM Centro area.

http://www.centraltrains.co.uk/_fami.../groupsave.htm



--
Bob

Driving into London from Dorking
 

Bob Wood wrote:

Mizter T wrote:

Of note is that GroupSave is available on Central Trains but only
between Peterborough and Stansted Airport.

Not so! GroupSave is available in almost all of the Central Trains
area. The only journeys that do not qualify for GroupSave are those
which are wholly in the WM Centro area.

http://www.centraltrains.co.uk/_fami.../groupsave.htm



Ah! In that case neither the GroupSave map [1] nor the GroupSave page
on the 'Days Out Guide' website [2] makes this clear.

This thus begs the question - where else is GroupSave available that
doesn't appear on the map. It appears that it's available across First
Great Western [3], which the map doesn't make clear either

The 'one' railway website makes clear that GroupSave is only available
on some of their routes [4] which tallies with the GroupSave map. The
map suggests GroupSave isn't valid on the whole Silverlink County
route, but their website [5] doesn't make clear that services north of
Northampton appear to be exempt.

It's annoying that there isn't a comprehensive list in one place of the
routes on which GroupSave is available. But I guess that's the
fragmented railway for you - though that said BR were quite capable of
failing to provide comprehensive information as well.


[1] GroupSave info at 'Days Out Guide'
http://www.daysoutguide.co.uk/groupsave.aspx

[2] GroupSave map
http://www.daysoutguide.co.uk/docs/GroupSaveMap.pdf

[3] GroupSave on FGW
http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Content.aspx?id=43

[4] GroupSave on 'one' railway
http://www.onerailway.com/timetable/...rouptravel.asp

[5] GroupSave on Silverlink
http://www.silverlink-trains.com/leisure/gs.html