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Neil Williams August 16th 06 09:47 AM

Bus numbering
 
MIG wrote:

What does RV stand for, by the way? Ri Ver?


No idea. RV1 is a bit of a special case, though, as it's almost a
branded "tourist bus" that happens to be part of the main TfL fares
system.

Neil


asdf August 16th 06 09:55 AM

Bus numbering
 
On 16 Aug 2006 02:47:17 -0700, Neil Williams wrote:

What does RV stand for, by the way? Ri Ver?


No idea. RV1 is a bit of a special case, though, as it's almost a
branded "tourist bus" that happens to be part of the main TfL fares
system.


IIRC they have the word "Riverside" on them somewhere.

asdf August 16th 06 09:55 AM

Bus numbering
 
On 16 Aug 2006 02:46:01 -0700, wrote:

What about the W-prefixed buses? I've variously heard that the W stands
for Walthamstow, Woodford, and even West (which seems unlikely seeing as
they're mostly based around northeast London).


Confusingly Potters Bar had PB1. Should it not have been merely P1 in
order to enable the usual clashes with other potential "P" locations?


I don't know, but Park Royal has PR1 and PR2.

Paul G August 16th 06 11:30 AM

Bus numbering
 
In message . com,
writes

Iain wrote:
What about the W-prefixed buses? I've variously heard that the W stands
for Walthamstow, Woodford, and even West (which seems unlikely seeing as
they're mostly based around northeast London).



Confusingly Potters Bar had PB1. Should it not have been merely P1 in
order to enable the usual clashes with other potential "P" locations?


Potters Bar falls outside the TfL area (although there is some cross
over in the TfL funded routes also operate within Potters Bar), so it's
up to Hertfordshire County Council what the routes are called.

--
Paul G
Typing from Barking

Colin Rosenstiel August 16th 06 03:47 PM

Bus numbering
 
In article ,
(Paul G) wrote:

In message . com,
writes

Iain wrote:
What about the W-prefixed buses? I've variously heard that the W
stands for Walthamstow, Woodford, and even West (which seems
unlikely seeing as they're mostly based around northeast London).


Confusingly Potters Bar had PB1. Should it not have been merely P1
in order to enable the usual clashes with other potential "P"
locations?


Potters Bar falls outside the TfL area (although there is some
cross over in the TfL funded routes also operate within Potters
Bar), so it's up to Hertfordshire County Council what the routes
are called.


Not when the PB1 first started, surely?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Paul Corfield August 16th 06 05:56 PM

Bus numbering
 
On 15 Aug 2006 16:22:21 -0700, "MIG"
wrote:

I am sure that there hasn't been a W based on Woodford, at least for
many decades.


Err so what do the W13 and W14 do then other than wandering around
Woodford? They go nowhere near Walthamstow although I accept they were
implemented as part of the Walthamstow network tendering exercise that
gave us W11 - W16.

I think there were two versions of W relatively
recently. Mainly it was routes around, and based at, Wood Green.
There was one W route based in Walthamstow, which was the W21 circular
route, but this was replaced by the 212 and various kinds of 97 around
1979ish I think.


The W21 was a circular wasn't it? Therefore the 212 and 97A replaced
it.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

[email protected] August 16th 06 06:27 PM

Bus numbering - W21, 212, 97A
 

Paul Corfield wrote:

The W21 was a circular wasn't it? Therefore the 212 and 97A replaced
it.


That's correct, the W21 was Walthamstow Central - Church Hill -
Fulbourne Road - Highams Park - Larkshall Road - New Road - Chingford
Mount - Crooked Billet - Hoe Street - Walthamstow Central circular.
Buses going round one way (can't remember which now) used a
black-on-yellow ultimate blind.

The 212 largely replaced the W21. The 212 ran Chingford Yardley Lane -
Mansfield Hill - Chingford Mount - Crooked Billet - Hoe Street -
Walthamstow Central - Church Hill - Fulbourne Road - Highams Park -
Larkshall Road - Chingford Station. The 'via' blinds on the 212
emphasised the Walthamstow Central bit, ISTR by using capital letters.

The 97A covered the bit direct along the New Road that the 212 missed,
and had various other terminals at the north and south ends before
being renumbered 357 a few years ago.

Somewhat later on the 212 was cut back to be Walthamstow Central to
Chingford Station only, with the 215 being introduced to cover Yardley
Lane to Walthamstow Central. This was resurrecting the old 276 route
which the 212 had replaced itself a few years before.


Stuart August 16th 06 06:51 PM

Bus numbering
 
Orienteer wrote:
There used to be, but no longer!

Central bus routes were 1 - 199, single deck routes 200-299, country buses
north of the Thames 300-399, south 400-499, trolleybuses 500-699, Greenline
routes 700 - 799.


AIUI there is a system whereby when routes are split up they get
prefixed with a 3 and the route spawns a school bus that gets a 6 at the
front. For example the 71, 371, 671 and the 29, 329, 629

Stuart August 16th 06 06:54 PM

Bus numbering
 
Paul G wrote:


I thought C was for Camden.

That's what I thought. Then TfL introduced (or renumbered an existing
part of a route) the C10 which runs from Victoria to Canada Water.



I thought C was for 'Central'

Colin Rosenstiel August 16th 06 07:05 PM

Bus numbering
 
In article ,
(Stuart) wrote:

Orienteer wrote:
There used to be, but no longer!

Central bus routes were 1 - 199, single deck routes 200-299,
country buses north of the Thames 300-399, south 400-499,
trolleybuses 500-699, Greenline routes 700 - 799.


AIUI there is a system whereby when routes are split up they get
prefixed with a 3 and the route spawns a school bus that gets a 6
at the front. For example the 71, 371, 671 and the 29, 329, 629


3xx or 4xx.

--
Colin Rosenstiel


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