London Banter

London Banter (https://www.londonbanter.co.uk/forum.php)
-   London Transport (https://www.londonbanter.co.uk/london-transport/)
-   -   Combination of travelcards and pay-as-you-go Oyster? (https://www.londonbanter.co.uk/london-transport/4530-combination-travelcards-pay-you-go.html)

alex_t September 26th 06 08:53 AM

Combination of travelcards and pay-as-you-go Oyster?
 
In October I will need to go to Heathrow (zone 6) from Stratford (zone
3). I have Oyster with:
1. monthly travel card for zones 1-3
2. 10£ for pay-as-you-go needs

How will I be charged? For zones 4-6, or 3-6, or 1-6? (I will also
cross zones 1 and 2).
And on return journey, when I will enter in zone 6, and exit in zone 3
(Heathrow - Stratford) - will it be the same?

Help me please! :-)


Barry Salter September 26th 06 09:12 AM

Combination of travelcards and pay-as-you-go Oyster?
 
alex_t wrote:
In October I will need to go to Heathrow (zone 6) from Stratford (zone
3). I have Oyster with:
1. monthly travel card for zones 1-3
2. 10£ for pay-as-you-go needs

How will I be charged? For zones 4-6, or 3-6, or 1-6? (I will also
cross zones 1 and 2).
And on return journey, when I will enter in zone 6, and exit in zone 3
(Heathrow - Stratford) - will it be the same?


Assuming those are the only "out of zone" journeys you make on those
days, you should just be charged £1.00 (before 0700 and after 1900
Monday to Friday, all day at weekends) or £1.80 (between 0700 and 1900
Monday to Friday) for a Single for Zones 4-6.

HTH,

Barry

alex_t September 26th 06 09:28 AM

Combination of travelcards and pay-as-you-go Oyster?
 

Assuming those are the only "out of zone" journeys you make on those
days, you should just be charged £1.00 (before 0700 and after 1900
Monday to Friday, all day at weekends) or £1.80 (between 0700 and 1900
Monday to Friday) for a Single for Zones 4-6.


Great!
Thank you :-)


Richard J. September 26th 06 09:34 AM

Combination of travelcards and pay-as-you-go Oyster?
 
Barry Salter wrote:
alex_t wrote:
In October I will need to go to Heathrow (zone 6) from Stratford
(zone 3). I have Oyster with:
1. monthly travel card for zones 1-3
2. 10£ for pay-as-you-go needs

How will I be charged? For zones 4-6, or 3-6, or 1-6? (I will also
cross zones 1 and 2).
And on return journey, when I will enter in zone 6, and exit in
zone 3 (Heathrow - Stratford) - will it be the same?


Assuming those are the only "out of zone" journeys you make on those
days, you should just be charged £1.00 (before 0700 and after 1900
Monday to Friday, all day at weekends) or £1.80 (between 0700 and
1900 Monday to Friday) for a Single for Zones 4-6.


Actually the PAYG fare would be for Zones 3-6, otherwise he would not
have a valid ticket between Northfields and Boston Manor (across the
zone 3/4 boundary). The costs are the same, though.

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)


alex_t September 26th 06 10:33 AM

Combination of travelcards and pay-as-you-go Oyster?
 

Actually the PAYG fare would be for Zones 3-6, otherwise he would not
have a valid ticket between Northfields and Boston Manor (across the
zone 3/4 boundary). The costs are the same, though.


As long as the price is the same - I don't really care ;-)
But thank you for information - good to know anyway.


[email protected] September 26th 06 11:14 AM

Combination of travelcards and pay-as-you-go Oyster?
 


Actually the PAYG fare would be for Zones 3-6, otherwise he would not
have a valid ticket between Northfields and Boston Manor (across the
zone 3/4 boundary). The costs are the same, though.

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)


Actually it would be for 4-6, because his travelcard covers zones 1-3,
and so the extension would be for the additional zones he is travelling
through - zones 4-6. Otherwise he'd be paying twice for zone 3.


MIG September 26th 06 11:26 AM

Combination of travelcards and pay-as-you-go Oyster?
 

Barry Salter wrote:
alex_t wrote:
In October I will need to go to Heathrow (zone 6) from Stratford (zone
3). I have Oyster with:
1. monthly travel card for zones 1-3
2. 10£ for pay-as-you-go needs

How will I be charged? For zones 4-6, or 3-6, or 1-6? (I will also
cross zones 1 and 2).
And on return journey, when I will enter in zone 6, and exit in zone 3
(Heathrow - Stratford) - will it be the same?


Assuming those are the only "out of zone" journeys you make on those
days, you should just be charged £1.00 (before 0700 and after 1900
Monday to Friday, all day at weekends) or £1.80 (between 0700 and 1900
Monday to Friday) for a Single for Zones 4-6.



This is a bit of a tangent, but if he had a zone 1 and 2 travelcard and
went from Heathrow to Stratford, touching in at Heathrow and out at
Stratford, would that count as one or two PAYG journeys, given that it
was split by the travelcard valid part?

(And I don't think there is any way of avoiding a zone 1 and/or 2
section without touching out and getting a bus, or maybe Silverlink.)


John B September 26th 06 11:49 AM

Combination of travelcards and pay-as-you-go Oyster?
 
MIG wrote:

This is a bit of a tangent, but if he had a zone 1 and 2 travelcard and
went from Heathrow to Stratford, touching in at Heathrow and out at
Stratford, would that count as one or two PAYG journeys, given that it
was split by the travelcard valid part?

(And I don't think there is any way of avoiding a zone 1 and/or 2
section without touching out and getting a bus, or maybe Silverlink.)


Single z3-z6 costs £1.80 on-peak or £1 off-peak.
Single z3 only costs £1 at all times.
Single z6-z3 via z1 costs £3.50 on-peak or £2 off-peak.

So off-peak the passenger would be charged £2, irrespective of how the
fare is calculated.

On-peak, the passenger would be charged £2.80 for 2 journeys plus
travelcard, or £3.50 for one journey.

I'm 90% sure that Oyster will give the on-peak passenger the most
favourable fare - ie 2 PAYG journeys plus travelcard - but haven't
tried it so can't confirm.

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org


Earl Purple September 26th 06 12:31 PM

Combination of travelcards and pay-as-you-go Oyster?
 

MIG wrote:
(And I don't think there is any way of avoiding a zone 1 and/or 2
section without touching out and getting a bus, or maybe Silverlink.)


You can avoid zone 1:

change at Acton Town for District Line
Change at Turnham Green for train going in reverse direction
change at Gunnersbury.

Alternative via Earls Court, Olympia, Willesden Junction.

Another alternative via Acton Town, Rayners Lane, Finchley Road then
street level to Finchley Road & Frognal or alternatively West Hampstead
but the interchange there is also street-level. (That is assuming
Silverlink between West Hampstead and Stratford as the Jubilee Line
goes into zone 1)


John B September 26th 06 01:01 PM

Combination of travelcards and pay-as-you-go Oyster?
 
Earl Purple wrote:
(And I don't think there is any way of avoiding a zone 1 and/or 2
section without touching out and getting a bus, or maybe Silverlink.)


You can avoid zone 1:

change at Acton Town for District Line
Change at Turnham Green for train going in reverse direction
change at Gunnersbury.

Alternative via Earls Court, Olympia, Willesden Junction.

Another alternative via Acton Town, Rayners Lane, Finchley Road then
street level to Finchley Road & Frognal or alternatively West Hampstead
but the interchange there is also street-level. (That is assuming
Silverlink between West Hampstead and Stratford as the Jubilee Line
goes into zone 1)


The problem here is that the putative Travelcard for this example is
only z12. The NLL goes into z3 at Willesden, Hampstead Heath and
Stratford, and Oyster Prepay to cover the difference isn't valid until
the end of 2007.

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org



All times are GMT. The time now is 05:16 PM.

Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2006 LondonBanter.co.uk