[crossposted to uk.r - apologies if you've had this already; should
really go to a cam. group too, but i don't know those]

Sadly not time travel maps:

http://www.mysociety.org/2006/travel-time-maps/

But very interesting nonetheless. We were talking about this ages ago; i
even started writing a program to calculate isochrones, but these chaps
have beaten me to it (again).

tom

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The sky above the port was the colour of television, tuned to a dead
channel

Tom Anderson wrote:
[crossposted to uk.r - apologies if you've had this already; should
really go to a cam. group too, but i don't know those]

Sadly not time travel maps:

http://www.mysociety.org/2006/travel-time-maps/

But very interesting nonetheless. We were talking about this ages ago; i
even started writing a program to calculate isochrones, but these chaps
have beaten me to it (again).

You can get one developed by the DfT if you have several grand to spare...


--
Dave Arquati
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

In uk.railway Tom Anderson wrote:
[crossposted to uk.r - apologies if you've had this already; should
really go to a cam. group too, but i don't know those]

Sadly not time travel maps:

http://www.mysociety.org/2006/travel-time-maps/

From the same people - live train position maps:
http://www.traintimes.org.uk/map/

Theo

"Theo Markettos" wrote in message
...
In uk.railway Tom Anderson wrote:
[crossposted to uk.r - apologies if you've had this already; should
really go to a cam. group too, but i don't know those]

Sadly not time travel maps:

http://www.mysociety.org/2006/travel-time-maps/

From the same people - live train position maps:
http://www.traintimes.org.uk/map/

Very nice. Thank you for that.

--
Brian

Theo Markettos wrote:
From the same people - live train position maps:
http://www.traintimes.org.uk/map/


Ugh, what a mess at Paddington. Nice idea, though.

PhilD

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In article ,
Theo Markettos wrote:

In uk.railway Tom Anderson wrote:
[crossposted to uk.r - apologies if you've had this already; should
really go to a cam. group too, but i don't know those]

Sadly not time travel maps:

http://www.mysociety.org/2006/travel-time-maps/

From the same people - live train position maps:
http://www.traintimes.org.uk/map/

Interesting. As at Fri, 06 Oct 2006 10:37:17 +0100 there are no trains
running north of Mansfield and no railways north of Edinburgh. Oh, and
there's a considerable lack of through routes out of London - in fact
the only railway out of London goes
Reading-Didcot-Swindon-Stroud-Gloucester...

Sam

In article ,
Theo Markettos wrote:

In uk.railway Tom Anderson wrote:
[crossposted to uk.r - apologies if you've had this already; should
really go to a cam. group too, but i don't know those]

Sadly not time travel maps:

http://www.mysociety.org/2006/travel-time-maps/

From the same people - live train position maps:
http://www.traintimes.org.uk/map/

Aha - belay that - I've spotted how it works now. Rather limited set of
stations, though.

Sam

Sam Wilson wrote in
:

In article ,
Theo Markettos wrote:

In uk.railway Tom Anderson wrote:
[crossposted to uk.r - apologies if you've had this already; should
really go to a cam. group too, but i don't know those]

Sadly not time travel maps:

http://www.mysociety.org/2006/travel-time-maps/

From the same people - live train position maps:
http://www.traintimes.org.uk/map/

Interesting. As at Fri, 06 Oct 2006 10:37:17 +0100 there are no
trains running north of Mansfield and no railways north of Edinburgh.
Oh, and there's a considerable lack of through routes out of London -
in fact the only railway out of London goes
Reading-Didcot-Swindon-Stroud-Gloucester...

Another peculiarity of http://www.traintimes.org.uk/map/ is that direct
trains and stopping trains are shown on different lines on the map. I think
the black and grey lines are straight lines which join the stations at which
the train calls. Taking the Reading-Oxford area, there's one set of lines
which joins each of the intermediate stations, and stopping trains are shown
as progressing along that route. But then there's another straight line
which joins Reading and Oxford directly, bypassing the curved route of the
real railway line, and non-stop Reading-Oxford trains progress along that.
Rather counter-intuitive.

It's a very clever idea, although it needs a bit of refinement:

- it needs many more stations adding to the database and the drop-down list
- it needs all trains on a given railway line to be shown on the same line
on the map, irrespective of whether they stop at intemediate stations: then
you can see when trains are about to pass each other
- it needs the ability to show all trains on all railway lines in the area,
as a user-selectable alternative to presenting only those which are serving
the selected station

In uk.railway Martin Underwood a@b wrote:
Another peculiarity of http://www.traintimes.org.uk/map/ is that direct
trains and stopping trains are shown on different lines on the map. I
think the black and grey lines are straight lines which join the stations
at which the train calls. Taking the Reading-Oxford area, there's one set
of lines which joins each of the intermediate stations, and stopping
trains are shown as progressing along that route. But then there's another
straight line which joins Reading and Oxford directly, bypassing the
curved route of the real railway line, and non-stop Reading-Oxford trains
progress along that. Rather counter-intuitive.

It's an interesting way of visualising engineering works. At a
glance I can see today:

No trains west of Truro
No trains north of Ely
Euston only has a DC lines service
Brighton-London trains diverted via Horsham/bus to Haywards Heath
(and amusingly the map is getting Berwick, E. Sussex and Berwick-upon-Tweed
confused)

....which is quite neat.

Theo

Martin Underwood wrote:
Another peculiarity of http://www.traintimes.org.uk/map/ is that direct
trains and stopping trains are shown on different lines on the map. I think
the black and grey lines are straight lines which join the stations at which
the train calls.

Quite correct. It would of course be better if a direct train could move
along the line of the stopping service at least (or the actual track in a
perfect world ), but currently it doesn't, and I don't have time to add
it. It would require knowing the routes of the lines (e.g. if it comes
across a Reading-Oxford direct, it would need to know which route that
actually should go along).

- it needs many more stations adding to the database and the drop-down list

Fetching the data requires a few lookups on National Rail's website, and
every station added would need more.

- it needs the ability to show all trains on all railway lines in the area,
as a user-selectable alternative to presenting only those which are serving
the selected station

I wouldn't know how to collect that information, I'm afraid.

Hope its failings don't annoy you too much, I only did it as a bit of fun -
I like it :-)
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