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"Khyber Pass" opens tomorrow
Just a quick note: the "Khyber Pass", the direct connection between
tube and sub-surface lines inside the barriers, is to open tomorrow (October 8th), according to posters. My apologies if this has already been noted, but I searched and didn't find any mention. Regards, Clive -- Clive R Robertson -- AS/400 Programmer. Webmaster of http://www.osterleypark.org.uk/ -- this describes a beautiful National Trust property in West London. |
"Khyber Pass" opens tomorrow
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Clive R Robertson wrote: Just a quick note: the "Khyber Pass", the direct connection between tube and sub-surface lines inside the barriers, is to open tomorrow (October 8th), according to posters. My apologies if this has already been noted, but I searched and didn't find any mention. I take it this is about St. Pancras rather than a return to service in Pakistan ! Nick |
"Khyber Pass" opens tomorrow
Or in Whitby!
-- -- Peter & Elizabeth Corser, Linslade, Beds, UK "Nick Leverton" wrote in message ... In article , Clive R Robertson wrote: Just a quick note: the "Khyber Pass", the direct connection between tube and sub-surface lines inside the barriers, is to open tomorrow (October 8th), according to posters. My apologies if this has already been noted, but I searched and didn't find any mention. I take it this is about St. Pancras rather than a return to service in Pakistan ! Nick Or in Whitby! Oops uktlondon group! Peter -- Peter & Elizabeth Corser, Linslade, Beds, UK |
"Khyber Pass" opens tomorrow
On Sat, 7 Oct 2006 19:24:59 +0000 (UTC), (Nick
Leverton) wrote: In article , Clive R Robertson wrote: Just a quick note: the "Khyber Pass", the direct connection between tube and sub-surface lines inside the barriers, is to open tomorrow (October 8th), according to posters. My apologies if this has already been noted, but I searched and didn't find any mention. I take it this is about St. Pancras rather than a return to service in Pakistan ! Nick Duh! (fxSlaps head/fx Yes, this is about King's Cross St. Pancras Underground station. Sorry! Clive -- Clive R Robertson -- AS/400 Programmer. Webmaster of http://www.osterleypark.org.uk/ -- this describes a beautiful National Trust property in West London. |
"Khyber Pass" opens tomorrow
I take it this is about St. Pancras rather than a return to service in Pakistan ! Nick ##### Approx 25 years ago in my mispent youth,whilst photographing real trains on the real Khyber Pass, I came across the unluckiest camel in the world. Under a road overbridge was a "mangled" and very dead camel,which had been hit by the one (return) train of the week. It must have been like the average bus/train passenger and could not read a timetable! |
"Khyber Pass" opens tomorrow
Clive R Robertson wrote:
Just a quick note: the "Khyber Pass", the direct connection between tube and sub-surface lines inside the barriers, is to open tomorrow (October 8th), according to posters. My apologies if this has already been noted, but I searched and didn't find any mention. I take it this is about St. Pancras rather than a return to service in Pakistan ! Yes, this is about King's Cross St. Pancras Underground station. Sorry! ....and open it did. The old entrance to the SSL station looks very impressive without any gates to get in the way - I really like the style of work LUL have been doing at KXSP. The Khyber still seems a bit narrow (unsurprising, given that they haven't widened it) - it was fine at 8:30am on Sunday but I wonder how it coped this morning? I was also slightly surprised to see the lack of a dividing rail in the middle, given that it now accommodates traffic in both directions. There's a locked door at the top of the SSL stairs that's either an emergency exit or a planned future access route: it takes up the full width of the passageway, and is the same in design as the doors that connect the Khyber to the Tube ticket hall. I wonder if this will ultimately provide access from the new northern ticket hall to the SSL platforms? -- John Band john at johnband dot org www.johnband.org |
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On 9 Oct 2006 05:42:21 -0700, "John B" wrote:
There's a locked door at the top of the SSL stairs that's either an emergency exit or a planned future access route: I would very much hope, given the history of that particular station, that it's the latter. -- James Farrar . @gmail.com |
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James Farrar wrote:
There's a locked door at the top of the SSL stairs that's either an emergency exit or a planned future access route: I would very much hope, given the history of that particular station, that it's the latter. Heh. S/"locked"/"alarmed". -- John Band john at johnband dot org www.johnband.org |
"Khyber Pass" opens tomorrow
I was also slightly surprised to see the lack of a dividing rail in the
middle, given that it now accommodates traffic in both directions. That seems to have gone out of the window lately. Public side connection between the tube and surface used to sport "Keep Left" signs but they've recently gone. There's no barrier down the middle of the sub-surface walkway from the barriers to steps by the platforms, so that's a pushy free for all too. The whole layout was bad anyway, going from sub-surface to NR front exit you have to cross streams of people coming from tube to sub-surface. Hopefully the new link will ease this. I never really understood why we keep left in corridors and right on escalators. Must confuse the hell out of the tourists. D |
"Khyber Pass" opens tomorrow
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:42:41 -0500, Dave Plumb
wrote: I was also slightly surprised to see the lack of a dividing rail in the middle, given that it now accommodates traffic in both directions. That seems to have gone out of the window lately. Public side connection between the tube and surface used to sport "Keep Left" signs but they've recently gone. There's no barrier down the middle of the sub-surface walkway from the barriers to steps by the platforms, so that's a pushy free for all too. The whole layout was bad anyway, going from sub-surface to NR front exit you have to cross streams of people coming from tube to sub-surface. Hopefully the new link will ease this. I never really understood why we keep left in corridors and right on escalators. Must confuse the hell out of the tourists. You keep left on escalators when walking on them... |
"Khyber Pass" opens tomorrow
Just a quick note: the "Khyber Pass", the direct connection between
tube and sub-surface lines inside the barriers, is to open tomorrow (October 8th), according to posters. Yet again they've created conflicting movements between people going between the Picc/Northern escalators and the sub-surface platforms, straight across the (busier) vic line escalators. I guess you can't have it all ... D |
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"Khyber Pass" opens tomorrow
Colin Rosenstiel wrote: In article , (Dave Plumb) wrote: Just a quick note: the "Khyber Pass", the direct connection between tube and sub-surface lines inside the barriers, is to open tomorrow (October 8th), according to posters. Yet again they've created conflicting movements between people going between the Picc/Northern escalators and the sub-surface platforms, straight across the (busier) vic line escalators. I guess you can't have it all ... That's a long standing problem. Are there plans later in the KX programme to address that? Only the presumption that the northern ticket office will reduce flow through the current one. It does seem to have been a lot of work for only marginal improvements. There is still bad congestion at the bottom of the picc/northern escalators for example, where flows cross each other. |
"Khyber Pass" opens tomorrow
There is still bad congestion at the bottom of the picc/northern
escalators for example, where flows cross each other. Yes, I'd forgotten about that one at KX too. I guess so much of it is historic and would cost a fortune to put right now. A lot of the newer stations are better in this respect although not perfect. The design of the sub surface hall at KX has got most of it right, with separation between the barriers and platforms and one way systems, it's just everyone ignores them. D |
"Khyber Pass" opens tomorrow
Dave Plumb wrote: I never really understood why we keep left in corridors and right on escalators. Must confuse the hell out of the tourists. ISTR reading somewhere that it's because most people are right-handed, so naturally use their right hand to steady themselves on an escalator. But I could be wrong. Patrick |
"Khyber Pass" opens tomorrow
I never really understood why we keep left in corridors and right on
escalators. Must confuse the hell out of the tourists. ISTR reading somewhere that it's because most people are right-handed, I wonder why it's different for corridors and stairs? I guess it doesn't matter as the escalators feed the corridors on the left sides. I expect in the old days when everyone wore bowler hats anyone bumping into each other would apologise Cholmley-Warner fashion rather than dissin ya wiv da teef suckin ting ;) D |
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On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:42:22 +0100, Dave Newt
wrote: Having said all that, there are plenty of corridors and stairs on LUL that don't say "Keep Left" and some which actually say "Keep Right". Keep Rights tend to be because the arrangement of the passageways means keeping left would lead to conflicting streams of pedestrians. Green Park springs to mind... |
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"Dave Plumb" wrote in message .. . I never really understood why we keep left in corridors and right on escalators. Must confuse the hell out of the tourists. Rule 1 of the Highway Code says that you keep left on pavements (except for pavements in one-way streets) Jeremy Parker |
"Khyber Pass" opens tomorrow
"Jeremy Parker" wrote in message ... "Dave Plumb" wrote in message .. . I never really understood why we keep left in corridors and right on escalators. Must confuse the hell out of the tourists. Rule 1 of the Highway Code says that you keep left on pavements (except for pavements in one-way streets) Jeremy Parker I should keep quiet about that then - Ken will probably call for pedestrians to be licenced and fitted with number plates before they go on the pavement.... Paul |
"Khyber Pass" opens tomorrow
In article .com, John
B writes There's a locked door at the top of the SSL stairs that's either an emergency exit or a planned future access route: It's an emergency exit, leading to the original stairway on the south side of Euston Road. -- Clive D.W. Feather | Home: Tel: +44 20 8495 6138 (work) | Web: http://www.davros.org Fax: +44 870 051 9937 | Work: Please reply to the Reply-To address, which is: |
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Dave Plumb wrote: There is still bad congestion at the bottom of the picc/northern escalators for example, where flows cross each other. Actually I was in KX the other day and apart from the aformentioned escalator bottom it was pretty good. However I've just realised its not going to be 'finished' for several years yet as the new stairs up to the Network Rail platforms probably wont come into use until after they finish the new above ground structures replacing the temporary 'sheds'. Probably why there hasnt been any fanfare on its opening. |
"Khyber Pass" opens tomorrow
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 10:17:46 +0000, "Clive D. W. Feather"
wrote: In article .com, John B writes There's a locked door at the top of the SSL stairs that's either an emergency exit or a planned future access route: It's an emergency exit, leading to the original stairway on the south side of Euston Road. A locked emergency exit? |
"Khyber Pass" opens tomorrow
There is still bad congestion at the bottom of the picc/northern
escalators for example, where flows cross each other. Actually I was in KX the other day and apart from the aformentioned escalator bottom it was pretty good. However I've just realised its not Now the Khyber Pass is open there are also conflicting movements from the Picc escalators to and from it I noticed they've removed the "Keep Left" signage from the tube ticket hall to the Met ticket hall area and probably elsewhere. I don't know if this is an improvement in flows or not, but I guess leaving people to sort out which side they walk on is just like anywhere else in life so it should come more naturally than being told to walk on side only ;) D |
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