"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote
Ely has space for trains to recess and a fairly flexible layout as far
as Ely North Junction (bidirectional running on both tracks).

Well, sort of... If you head north from Ely (i.e. down) on the up main, you
have to go towards either Norwich or King's Lynn - *not* Peterborough.

In article ,
(John Salmon) wrote:

"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote
Ely has space for trains to recess and a fairly flexible layout
as far as Ely North Junction (bidirectional running on both
tracks).

Well, sort of... If you head north from Ely (i.e. down) on the up
main, you have to go towards either Norwich or King's Lynn - *not*
Peterborough.

Or Potter's?

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Colin Rosenstiel

"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote
John Salmon wrote:

"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote
Ely has space for trains to recess and a fairly flexible layout
as far as Ely North Junction (bidirectional running on both
tracks).

Well, sort of... If you head north from Ely (i.e. down) on the up
main, you have to go towards either Norwich or King's Lynn - *not*
Peterborough.

Or Potter's?

I assume so, yes.

"Mizter T" wrote in message
ups.com...

Anyway my main point is that there's no point in Shoreditch High Street
being in two zones - i.e. in Z1/2 - if all the destinations to the
north or south will be in zone 2. It will be in a single zone - either
zone 1 or zone 2.

I'd hope it'll be in zone 2, as - despite what you say - it's an
orbital rail route, designed in part to mean people who want to get
around London can do so without going through central London. Keeping
it in zone 2 means it's a cheaper journey as well - so it encourages
people to avoid the busy zone 1 route and also serves part of it's
purpose well in connecting up communities better.

I'd hope that as the TfL blurb states that Shoreditch High Street will
replace Shoreditch on the ELL, that it too would be in the same zone as the
station that it is replacing; i.e. Zone 2. But I've not seen the
origin/destination forecasts for ELL.

However (ignoring interchange functions) given that stations such as Old
Street and Aldgate East are in physically and functionally similar locations
(in respect of them being destination stations) and are in Zone 1, I
wouldn't be toooooo surprised if we see SHS becoming a Zone 1 station,
particularly with the creep of new high-rise development to the North, with
several other sites like the Broadgate Tower coming forward between now and
2010.

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006, Neil Watson wrote:

"Mizter T" wrote in message
ups.com...

Anyway my main point is that there's no point in Shoreditch High Street
being in two zones - i.e. in Z1/2 - if all the destinations to the
north or south will be in zone 2. It will be in a single zone - either
zone 1 or zone 2.

Yes. I realised this was a very silly idea soon after i posted it. Might
be good PR, though - TfL can boast about the ELL going into Z1!

I'd hope it'll be in zone 2, as - despite what you say - it's an
orbital rail route,

I'd hope that as the TfL blurb states that Shoreditch High Street will
replace Shoreditch on the ELL, that it too would be in the same zone as
the station that it is replacing; i.e. Zone 2. But I've not seen the
origin/destination forecasts for ELL.

However (ignoring interchange functions) given that stations such as Old
Street and Aldgate East are in physically and functionally similar
locations (in respect of them being destination stations) and are in
Zone 1, I wouldn't be toooooo surprised if we see SHS becoming a Zone 1
station,

It would sort of defeat the object of having the ELL provide an orbital
route around London, though; if you've got to pay a Z1-crossing fare to
use it to go from north to south, why bother going by ELL rather than any
other tube line?

If TfL do make SHS a Z1 station, that would give us a strong signal that
TfL's thinking is quite different to what we'd assumed.

tom

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