Does anyone have any info on this new transit system at terminal 5?
The info on the web is little more than 6 trains, moving block
signalling, links
various buildings, 15 ton trains. I assume since it has signalling its
going
to be a "proper" railway unlike gatwicks transit which is just 2 trains
going up and down their own dedicated tracks. Is it circular? How deep
are the tunnels? Will it be in the tube/hex station or will it have its
own
station? Anyone know?

B2003

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Does anyone have any info on this new transit system at terminal 5?
The info on the web is little more than 6 trains, moving block
signalling, links
various buildings, 15 ton trains. I assume since it has signalling its
going
to be a "proper" railway unlike gatwicks transit which is just 2 trains
going up and down their own dedicated tracks. Is it circular? How deep
are the tunnels? Will it be in the tube/hex station or will it have its
own
station? Anyone know?

B2003

I think its more like the internal system at Stansted that takes you from
the departure/arrival areas out to the piers. There is a picture of one of
the 'trains' being craned down an access shaft in Modern Rail this month. It
is referred to as a 'tracked transit system (TTS)' but looks just like a bus
to me - the large rubber tyres being the biggest giveaway!

Paul

Paul Scott wrote:

looks just like a bus to me - the large rubber tyres being
the biggest giveaway!

Damn, I was trying to think of a way to combine it with the Thameslink
Moorgate branch and the Aldwych Shuttle.

John Rowland wrote:

Paul Scott wrote:

looks just like a bus to me - the large rubber tyres being
the biggest giveaway!


Damn, I was trying to think of a way to combine it with the Thameslink
Moorgate branch and the Aldwych Shuttle.

....via the Jubilee platforms at Charing Cross?

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I think its more like the internal system at Stansted that takes you from
the departure/arrival areas out to the piers. There is a picture of one of
the 'trains' being craned down an access shaft in Modern Rail this month. It
is referred to as a 'tracked transit system (TTS)' but looks just like a bus
to me - the large rubber tyres being the biggest giveaway!


Rubber tyres don't necessarily make it a bus. How about Metro line 1
in Paris? Those
trains have rubber tyres.


Phil

wrote:
I think its more like the internal system at Stansted that takes you from
the departure/arrival areas out to the piers. There is a picture of one of
the 'trains' being craned down an access shaft in Modern Rail this month. It
is referred to as a 'tracked transit system (TTS)' but looks just like a bus
to me - the large rubber tyres being the biggest giveaway!


Rubber tyres don't necessarily make it a bus. How about Metro line 1
in Paris? Those
trains have rubber tyres.

As do all four lines of the Montreal metro.

--

Stephen

Rory: What does a stroke feel like?
Lorelai: I dunno. Bad.

Damn, I was trying to think of a way to combine it with the Thameslink
Moorgate branch and the Aldwych Shuttle.

...via the Jubilee platforms at Charing Cross?

He-he... you are both wrong! ;-)

Aldwych tunnels should be used by new combined Hammersmith&City/Circle
service, which should be named Spiral and should go
Hammersmith-Paddington-Edgware Road-Farrington-Liverpool
Street-Monument-Victoria-Bayswater-Edgware Road{another set of
platforms}-{Marylebone}-{Goodge Street}-Holborn-Aldwych
(new parts are in { } )
(and yes, I know this is impossible, because Holborn-Aldwych part is
tube and not subsurface...)

And Jubilee platforms at Charing Cross should be used by DLR.

OR

Another stupid suggestion would be to create "smaller Circle" of
Waterloo-Bank-Aldwych-Holborn-Green Park-Charing Cross-Waterloo,
which will include entire Waterloo&City line, and both Aldwych and
Jubilee platforms at Charing Cross :-P

Stephen Farrow wrote:

Rubber tyres don't necessarily make it a bus. How about Metro line 1
in Paris? Those
trains have rubber tyres.

As do all four lines of the Montreal metro.

Can't remember what the Paris metro is like but the Montreal one has a
bouncy unpleasent ride from what i remember. Not sure what the
advantage
the rubber tyres is (better on gradients?) but comfort doesnt' seem to
be one of them.

B2003

Boltar wrote:
Stephen Farrow wrote:

Rubber tyres don't necessarily make it a bus. How about Metro line 1
in Paris? Those
trains have rubber tyres.
As do all four lines of the Montreal metro.

Can't remember what the Paris metro is like but the Montreal one has a
bouncy unpleasent ride from what i remember. Not sure what the
advantage
the rubber tyres is (better on gradients?) but comfort doesnt' seem to
be one of them.

I don't remember the ride on the Montreal metro being bouncy or
unpleasant, though it's certainly different from the ride on
conventional steel-wheeled trains (you want bouncy and unpleasant, try
the Bury line on the Metrolink in Manchester).

As for the rubber tyres, I believe their advantages are partly about
negotiating gradients, and partly about negotiating curves without
slowing right down.

--

Stephen

If I believed in fairy tales I never would have dropped out of kindergarten.

Maybe it could connect with Airtrain @ JFK?