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KOS November 8th 06 11:00 PM

Is TOX back?
 
Just seen new TOX06 graffiti all over the approach to Kings Cross near the
new Eurostar works.
Is he back out and spraying already?

K



Jack Taylor November 8th 06 11:59 PM

Is TOX back?
 
KOS wrote:
Just seen new TOX06 graffiti all over the approach to Kings Cross
near the new Eurostar works.
Is he back out and spraying already?


There's been TOX06 graffiti about for some months now. Certainly in
north-west London and I even saw some on (IIRC) the approaches to Leicester.
I guess that he's either out and at it again or someone has taken over his
tag with the aim of incriminating him. It would be spectacularly stupid if
it was the same guy, seeing as the police now know who he is (then again
.....).



REDSKINS November 9th 06 08:35 AM

Is TOX back?
 

"Jack Taylor" wrote in message
...
KOS wrote:
Just seen new TOX06 graffiti all over the approach to Kings Cross
near the new Eurostar works.
Is he back out and spraying already?


There's been TOX06 graffiti about for some months now. Certainly in
north-west London and I even saw some on (IIRC) the approaches to
Leicester. I guess that he's either out and at it again or someone has
taken over his tag with the aim of incriminating him. It would be
spectacularly stupid if it was the same guy, seeing as the police now know
who he is (then again ....).



We were on a Canal cruise in amsterdam last weekend and Tox tags were all
over the railway bridge to the east of Central station!

Lee



Ken Wheatley November 9th 06 08:40 AM

Is TOX back?
 
On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:00:55 -0000, "KOS"
wrote:

Just seen new TOX06 graffiti all over the approach to Kings Cross near the
new Eurostar works.
Is he back out and spraying already?

K

I noticed that yesterday on the Waterloo approaches. it certainly
looks like the same hand.

Roland Perry November 9th 06 08:59 AM

Is TOX back?
 
In message , at 09:40:24 on
Thu, 9 Nov 2006, Ken Wheatley remarked:
Just seen new TOX06 graffiti all over the approach to Kings Cross near the
new Eurostar works.
Is he back out and spraying already?

I noticed that yesterday on the Waterloo approaches. it certainly
looks like the same hand.


More sightings he

http://www.answers.com/topic/tox-2
--
Roland Perry

[email protected] November 9th 06 12:46 PM

Is TOX back?
 

Jack Taylor wrote:
KOS wrote:
Just seen new TOX06 graffiti all over the approach to Kings Cross
near the new Eurostar works.
Is he back out and spraying already?


There's been TOX06 graffiti about for some months now. Certainly in
north-west London and I even saw some on (IIRC) the approaches to Leicester.
I guess that he's either out and at it again or someone has taken over his
tag with the aim of incriminating him. It would be spectacularly stupid if
it was the same guy, seeing as the police now know who he is (then again
....).


Much as one detests the low-life scum in question, I think it's been
apparent for quite some time that the "TOX" tag has developed a life of
its own, and it is highly unlikely that the convicted waste-of-space is
guilty of all its manifestations. In a way, it had become the "KILLROY
WAS HERE" of the 21st Century....


Boltar November 9th 06 12:59 PM

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Ken Wheatley wrote:
I noticed that yesterday on the Waterloo approaches. it certainly
looks like the same hand.


Its about time the sad loser grew up and stopped behaving like a 15
year old, since he must be 21/22 by now going by the 2004 report.

B2003


jonmorris November 9th 06 02:55 PM

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wrote:
Much as one detests the low-life scum in question, I think it's been
apparent for quite some time that the "TOX" tag has developed a life of
its own, and it is highly unlikely that the convicted waste-of-space is
guilty of all its manifestations. In a way, it had become the "KILLROY
WAS HERE" of the 21st Century....


I'd say that most, possibly all, of the TOX tags are fake. Last year, a
guy came to do some work in our garden and he'd written 'TOX 05' in the
dirt on the back of his van (he admitted he'd done it for a laugh,
instead of 'clean me'). Why do people write comments on their own dirty
vehicles?! (At least this made me smile).

Recently, with the cold mornings, my local bus shelters have been full
of condensation, and I've 'written' TOX06 on them for a laugh. Even
took photos, so I expect I'll have my own ASBO soon!

Kings Cross has been obliterated and more appears each week, so someone
is going back regularly to 'finish off' what they've started before.
TOXIC and HOST is everywhere. I've seen enough of the older ones to
know that some are not in the same style, but many do look genuine. I
suspect TOX is back, at least in some places, and will simply argue
that someone is copying him when the police inevitably knock on his
door (as they must have done already). Sadly, even though he may be
known, they still need proof.

Jonathan


Roland Perry November 9th 06 04:24 PM

Is TOX back?
 
In message .com, at
07:55:39 on Thu, 9 Nov 2006, jonmorris remarked:

Sadly, even though he may be known, they still need proof.


You'd think they'd be able to nail whoever is doing it in one of the 300
(apparently) times everyone is captured each day on CCTV. Or are the
cameras in all the wrong places?
--
Roland Perry

jonmorris November 9th 06 10:24 PM

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Roland Perry wrote:
You'd think they'd be able to nail whoever is doing it in one of the 300
(apparently) times everyone is captured each day on CCTV. Or are the
cameras in all the wrong places?


No, it shows that CCTV isn't as good as everyone expects or believes.
We've got thousands of cameras, but has crime fallen (or not moved
crime to non-CCTV areas)? Are the streets safe? Are yobs no longer
roaming free and terrorising people? Wear a hood/mask or keep your head
down and there's not a lot a camera can do. It also needs someone to
watch it, analyse it and investigate after the event.

It's like speed cameras getting people for speeding, but ignoring those
who are drunk, uninsured, unlicenced, driving with fake/cloned plates
etc etc. Has the number of road deaths and accidents fallen massively
since the introduction of speed cameras? Not at all. It has raised a
lot of money though.

Get real police out patrolling, who could catch 'Tox' in the act, and
it might also send out the signal that you might actually stand a
chance of being caught. Considering the graffitti at Kings Cross is
getting worse on a weekly basis, someone is definitely active in the
area. I'm amazed it isn't being watched, although it is possible that
the plan is to simply remove it and secure the area once everything is
finished.

Jonathan


Boltar November 11th 06 05:28 PM

Is TOX back?
 

jonmorris wrote:
who are drunk, uninsured, unlicenced, driving with fake/cloned plates


Or foreign ones. Surprise surprise theres a huge amount of polish
plates
around london now not to mention latvian and lithuanian and the drivers
of these cars can just happily ignore speed cameras, the congestion
charge
and anything else where traffic police have been replaced by cameras by
the bean counters. Also these plates are now being used by locals since
I saw some asians driving around in a (right hand drive) car with
polish
plates the other day.

B2003


Steve November 11th 06 07:15 PM

Is TOX back?
 
On 9 Nov 2006 07:55:39 -0800, jonmorris wrote:

Sadly, even though he may be known, they still need proof.


He is known, and has done 3 months on remand before being fined when caught
last time.

Of course he was caught writing tox 03, he may not be the original or even
the new one.

Steve

jonmorris November 11th 06 10:16 PM

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Boltar wrote:
Or foreign ones. Surprise surprise theres a huge amount of polish
plates around london now not to mention latvian and lithuanian and the drivers
of these cars can just happily ignore speed cameras, the congestion
charge and anything else where traffic police have been replaced by cameras by
the bean counters.


Auto Express revealed a year or two ago about buying a car (this time
from France) and getting out of paying fines or the congestion charge.
In fact, they didn't even GET a ticket because no council would issue a
ticket on a foreign car. [Likewise, many foreign countries won't ticket
you either - but of course, they might still tow you or clamp you].

It used to be Dutch plates in north London, but now it's the plates you
mention (Polish particularly around Hatfield, although many of them ARE
at least driven by real Polish people). You can avoid insurance and
road tax too, so no wonder so many people are driving 'foreign' cars
(many RHD) and never registering them here.

The problem is the police aren't much more bothered than the
authorities. They don't want the hassle of stopping a foreigner, and
you can simply say you're over on holiday/borrowing the car with
permission. How will they know it's been here for 2 or 3 years (as a
few cars are that live very nearby)? Probably too much work, although
to be fair, I have read that they're going to be doing a few sting
operations to try and catch people - but how successful this might be
remains to be seen. One or two days out on a mini-roadblock isn't going
to have much of an impact.

Also these plates are now being used by locals since I saw some asians driving around in
a (right hand drive) car with polish plates the other day.


I'm sure you'll see a lot more when more people catch on about this
very easy scam. I guess we're not helping the situation by talking
about it here!

Jonathan


Richard J. November 11th 06 10:39 PM

Is TOX back?
 
jonmorris wrote:
Boltar wrote:
Or foreign ones. Surprise surprise theres a huge amount of polish
plates around london now not to mention latvian and lithuanian and
the drivers
of these cars can just happily ignore speed cameras, the congestion
charge and anything else where traffic police have been replaced by
cameras by
the bean counters.


Auto Express revealed a year or two ago about buying a car (this time
from France) and getting out of paying fines or the congestion charge.
In fact, they didn't even GET a ticket because no council would issue
a ticket on a foreign car. [Likewise, many foreign countries won't
ticket you either - but of course, they might still tow you or clamp
you].


I thought that there were reciprocal arrangements in place to enable any EU
country to pursue fines and charges incurred by a vehicle registered in
another EU country. Possibly it's not yet in place for newer members like
Poland, but I'm sure it will happen. Certainly the French have no
hesitation in ticketing me in Paris! :-(
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)



JMUpton2000 November 11th 06 11:24 PM

Is TOX back?
 

"Steve" wrote in message
...
On 9 Nov 2006 07:55:39 -0800, jonmorris wrote:

Sadly, even though he may be known, they still need proof.


Three months?!? The verminous parasitic scumbag should be either shot on
sight or shoved in front of a speeding train for all the extensive damage he
has caused!



Colin Rosenstiel November 11th 06 11:34 PM

Is TOX back?
 
In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

jonmorris wrote:
Boltar wrote:
Or foreign ones. Surprise surprise theres a huge amount of polish
plates around london now not to mention latvian and lithuanian
and the drivers of these cars can just happily ignore speed
cameras, the congestion charge and anything else where traffic
police have been replaced by cameras by the bean counters.


Auto Express revealed a year or two ago about buying a car (this
time from France) and getting out of paying fines or the congestion
charge. In fact, they didn't even GET a ticket because no council
would issue a ticket on a foreign car. [Likewise, many foreign
countries won't ticket you either - but of course, they might still
tow you or clamp you].


I thought that there were reciprocal arrangements in place to
enable any EU country to pursue fines and charges incurred by a
vehicle registered in another EU country. Possibly it's not yet in
place for newer members like Poland, but I'm sure it will happen.
Certainly the French have no hesitation in ticketing me in Paris!
:-(


I've been told by our (Cambridge City) parking manager that such moves
are being honed. What we have also noticed is that no foreign plate
should ever have a residents' permit renewed because it should have got
a UK plate by then.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Boltar November 12th 06 05:12 PM

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Richard J. wrote:
Poland, but I'm sure it will happen. Certainly the French have no
hesitation in ticketing me in Paris! :-(


Did they pursue you for the money or did you just pay up anyway?

B2003


Richard J. November 12th 06 07:52 PM

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Boltar wrote:
Richard J. wrote:
Poland, but I'm sure it will happen. Certainly the French have no
hesitation in ticketing me in Paris! :-(


Did they pursue you for the money or did you just pay up anyway?


The first time, in 1994, the advice from the British embassy was that I
didn't have to pay unless I wanted to bring the same car to France another
time. Since it was a company car that I was due to change the following
year, I ignored the ticket and heard nothing more.

The other one was earlier this year, and I paid it, partly because it was
only £24.50 (compared to £50 in Kensington, for example).
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)




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