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Boltar wrote:

can't believe digging up all those green fields not to mention
the millions it must of cost was really worth it.


"Must of" is illiterate. Troll. I don't think digging up Coulsdon North
station was a bad thing.


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John Watkins wrote:

That is the point of the bypass - it is supposed to move the traffic
jams from Coulsdon town centre to somewhere else. I don't think there


True , but you'll probably find that once other drivers find the town
centre is now clear of traffic they'll use it as a rat run to somewhere
else. Someone else has already mentioned how traffic in the centre
doesn't seem to have dropped much.

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"Must of" is illiterate. Troll. I don't think digging up Coulsdon North
station was a bad thing.


Actually it was a typo when I was tired. And I'm glad you shared your
feelings about the old station , a worthwhile addition to the
discussion. Now run along and play with your friends, teacher will want
you back in class soon.


Coulsdon North station wasn't dug up; the site where it used to be was.
The station had been gone for twenty years when construction of the
bypass started. At present I am living about one minutes walk from the
site of the station, and I can think of few stations more worthy of
closure. I believe that it used to have platforms on the quarry line,
but the only trains which served it were those on the terminating
service from London; I'm pretty sure this was because the LBSR overhead
system finished there. This service was transferred to Smitham
station, just a few tens of metres away. Since the quarry line was
built for the fast trains I can't see any reason why you would want to
stop any of them there. To have three stations, on three different
lines, so close together made no sense anyway; it's a pity tht they
couldn't have closed all three, and built one new one, serving all
lines. The site was doing nothing useful, it was overgrown, and piles
of rubble and scrap metal were dumped on parts of it. The subway still
existed, and part of it was briefly revealed when the site was cleared.
If you need some land to build a road and a site such as this is in
just the right place, then using it for that purpose seems like a
pretty sensible idea. If the station was still operational, was the
only one for miles around, and was heavily used, then I would agree
with you. The major demolition was at the site of the north junction,
where I think a total of twelve houses had to go. A car-washing
business was displaced from the land between the Brighton Road and
Marrpit Lane, where the central piers of the new bridge now stand. I'm
not sure what was previously on the land south of that point. The
bridge is an interesting design, it has six beams, but carried on just
four bearings.

Whether the bypass was worth its cost, said to be £33 remains to be
seen, it's only been open for a few days, and will always be a matter
of opinion; I'm undecided as yet. The stated purpose of the road was
to improve the town centre, not the lives of drivers, which I think it
is unlikely to do to any great extent. If that was the aim then I
think you would have had to extend it to Purley Cross, from where much
of the traffic would take the routes via Pampisford Road or the Purley
Way; The cost would have been many times greater to do that.

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Since the quarry line was
built for the fast trains I can't see any reason why you would want to
stop any of them there.


The Quarry line was built as an avoiding line for Redhill. Until the early 1980s
stopping services used the western tracks (i.e. the current fast lines) between
Coulsdon and Victoria.

D A Stocks



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In article . com, () wrote:

Whether the bypass was worth its cost, said to be £33


If it really cost that, I suppose it must have been worth it!

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