Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article . com,
(Boltar) wrote:

Sky Rider wrote:

Sixbells wrote:
Any guesses what the estimated cost of that lot will be when
the Thameslink financing decision is due - £10bn? £15bn?

Current estimates are around £3.5 billion

Thats a heck of a lot of money for a bit of track remodelling and
platform extensions. Are they going to gold plate the platforms or
something? Does this include the cost of the trains? Can't see
Gordon Brown coughing up that much quite frankly. Thameslink 3000 I
think.

The platform extensions go as far as Cambridge ...

That long? It would explain the £3.5bn bill, I suppose.
:-)

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

In article .com,
(Boltar) wrote:

John Rowland wrote:
New substation locations at regular intervals from the south
coast to Bedford and Cambridge, to push more carriages per hour.

Why would it need new substations on the AC section? Surely that has
enough capacity to cope already?

Oh, you are a laugh! Power supply is a major problem all the way from
King's Cross to King';s Lynn. FCC are hoping to benefit from a Network
Rail booster transformer upgrade between Royston and Shepreth Branch
Junction next year but there is still no feeder station North of Milton.
This makes it almost (but not quite) impossible to run 8-coach trains
North of Cambridge.

--
Colin Rosenstiel.

Clive D. W. Feather wrote:


Where will the crossing movements be? The terminating trains at
Blackfriars are being diverted to new platforms on the west side,
Charing Cross trains get new tracks to London Bridge to keep them away
from TL, and then further east there's a new diveunder to let TL cross
over the services via Lewisham without conflict. Result: no crossing
movements.

--
Clive D.W. Feather

Is there a trackplan available anywhere ?
Baz

On Dec 28, 10:51 am, "Boltar" wrote:
Thats a heck of a lot of money for a bit of track remodelling and
platform extensions.

It's mostly the cost of completely rebuilding Blackfriars (which
seriously needs it). I'm not sure if London Bridge is included as well.

U

wrote:
It's mostly the cost of completely rebuilding Blackfriars (which
seriously needs it). I'm not sure if London Bridge is included as well.
London Bridge (and Farringdon) will also undergo major transformations -
London Bridge in particular will require a hell of a lot of capital.
As for King's Cross Thameslink - good riddance. Bring on next Christmas!

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

In article .com,
(Boltar) wrote:

John Rowland wrote:
New substation locations at regular intervals from the south
coast to Bedford and Cambridge, to push more carriages per hour.

Why would it need new substations on the AC section? Surely that has
enough capacity to cope already?

Oh, you are a laugh! Power supply is a major problem all the way from
King's Cross to King';s Lynn. FCC are hoping to benefit from a Network

Actually muppet , I was thinking of the current Thameslink line to
bedford, but feel free to keep smiling. Oh , but if the power supply is
such a major problem from Kings Cross how come those 140mph 6300 hp
class 91s manage to pull away from it then with a full length 225
train? Not to mention the large number of local services running at the
same time (some of which no doubt disappear once thameslink starts to
use the route).

Rail booster transformer upgrade between Royston and Shepreth Branch
Junction next year but there is still no feeder station North of Milton.
This makes it almost (but not quite) impossible to run 8-coach trains
North of Cambridge.

Actually you could run any length of train you wanted , since as a
great mind such as yourself should know the power drawn depends on how
quickly you wish to accelerate and the gradiants on the line.

B2003

In article om,
(Boltar) wrote:

muppet

Plonk

--
Colin Rosenstiel.

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006, Boltar wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

In article .com,
(Boltar) wrote:

John Rowland wrote:

New substation locations at regular intervals from the south coast to
Bedford and Cambridge, to push more carriages per hour.

Why would it need new substations on the AC section? Surely that has
enough capacity to cope already?

Oh, you are a laugh! Power supply is a major problem all the way from
King's Cross to King';s Lynn. FCC are hoping to benefit from a Network

Actually muppet , I was thinking of the current Thameslink line to
bedford, but feel free to keep smiling. Oh , but if the power supply is
such a major problem from Kings Cross how come those 140mph 6300 hp
class 91s manage to pull away from it then with a full length 225 train?

Are the fast and slow lines run off the same power supply?

Rail booster transformer upgrade between Royston and Shepreth Branch
Junction next year but there is still no feeder station North of
Milton. This makes it almost (but not quite) impossible to run 8-coach
trains North of Cambridge.

Actually you could run any length of train you wanted , since as a great
mind such as yourself should know the power drawn depends on how quickly
you wish to accelerate and the gradiants on the line.

And the mass and rolling resistance of the train. Would you like me to
write the formulas out for you?

tom

--
If it ain't broke, open it up and see what makes it so bloody special.

On 27 Dec 2006 09:44:51 -0800, "Boltar"
wrote:

Well I suppose it will effect it. But lets face it , 24tph is pushing
it given the endless problems on the south london network. And how many
trains do they need to go to Brighton anyway given Southern run a very
frequent service there already? Also AFAIK there is nowhere Thameslink
serves in south london that isn't already served by another service.

Thameslink provides the local service between Brighton and Three
Bridges, which is only served by the Watford Junction service from
Southern.
--
Terry Harper
Website Coordinator, The Omnibus Society
http://www.omnibussoc.org

Boltar wrote:
Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

In article .com,
(Boltar) wrote:

John Rowland wrote:
New substation locations at regular intervals from the south
coast to Bedford and Cambridge, to push more carriages per hour.

Why would it need new substations on the AC section? Surely that has
enough capacity to cope already?

Oh, you are a laugh! Power supply is a major problem all the way from
King's Cross to King';s Lynn. FCC are hoping to benefit from a
Network

Actually muppet ,

I already answered your question, muppet ... "to push more carriages per
hour".