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What do you think of the petition by Brick Lane residents and shop and
restaurant owners to get Aldgate East renamed "Brick Lane" to boost the area. Having lost Shoreditch station, they're getting a bit of a rum deal at the moment. Do they have much of a hope? |
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Tristán White wrote:
What do you think of the petition by Brick Lane residents and shop and restaurant owners to get Aldgate East renamed "Brick Lane" to boost the area. Having lost Shoreditch station, they're getting a bit of a rum deal at the moment. I've always been rather sceptical of the idea that Shoreditch is/was the best station for Brick Lane. Personally I've always found Aldgate East to be the most useful. I guess if you were travelling from south of Whitechapel and Shoreditch was open then it might be useful, but Aldgate East comes out at a better place for walking Brick Lane properly. Do they have much of a hope? When was the last time a tube station was renamed for something other than an external redefinition (e.g. "Heathrow Central" - "Heathrow Terminals 1, 2 & 3") or typographical simplicity (can't think of a tube, though on NR "Boxhill & Westhumble" is now "Box Hill & Westhumble" in line with the hill in question)? And who would pay for it all? Also is interchange at street level currently permitted between the Aldgates? (If not it would be bloody useful - there are times when it seems quicker to do this than wait for an H&C train.) Changing the name could cause confusion. And what about the rest of the area Aldgate East serves? I can't see "Brick Lane" taking off as a name for that part of London, although is "Aldgate" or "Aldgate East" widely used in any formal or informal sense? (London Metropolitan University calls the old London Guildhall end of things the "London City" campus.) |
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Tristán White wrote:
What do you think of the petition by Brick Lane residents and shop and restaurant owners to get Aldgate East renamed "Brick Lane" to boost the area. I hope they don't get their way. The station isn't in Brick lane, or very near it. At the junction of St Helens Gardens and Oxford Gardens there is a sign saying... --- Latimer Road Station Latimer Road ------ .... or something similar. To me, this is a clear indication that Latimer Road station needs to be renamed. If Aldgate East station was renamed to Brick Lane, we would then need signs telling people that Brick Lane is this way, but Brick Lane Station is that way. Aldgate East station is in Whitechapel High Street. It should probably be called Whitechapel, and Whitechapel should be called something else! |
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"Tim Roll-Pickering" wrote in message
... When was the last time a tube station was renamed for something other than an external redefinition (e.g. "Heathrow Central" - "Heathrow Terminals 1, 2 & 3") or typographical simplicity (can't think of a tube, though on NR "Boxhill & Westhumble" is now "Box Hill & Westhumble" in line with the hill in question)? And who would pay for it all? Surrey Docks - Surrey Quays? -- Richard |
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"Tristán White" wrote in message 9.145... What do you think of the petition by Brick Lane residents and shop and restaurant owners to get Aldgate East renamed "Brick Lane" to boost the area. Having lost Shoreditch station, they're getting a bit of a rum deal at the moment. Do they have much of a hope? Maybe they should proceed by stealth, and ask for notices bythe platform roundels 'for Brick Lane' cf Maida Vale 'for Little Venice'. This wouldn't require the entire system to have the maps changed, like they will for 'Shepherds Bush Market' in due course... Paul |
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On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 03:10:58 -0000, "Tim Roll-Pickering"
wrote: Tristán White wrote: What do you think of the petition by Brick Lane residents and shop and restaurant owners to get Aldgate East renamed "Brick Lane" to boost the area. Having lost Shoreditch station, they're getting a bit of a rum deal at the moment. I've always been rather sceptical of the idea that Shoreditch is/was the best station for Brick Lane. Personally I've always found Aldgate East to be the most useful. I guess if you were travelling from south of Whitechapel and Shoreditch was open then it might be useful, but Aldgate East comes out at a better place for walking Brick Lane properly. Depends on where you're going on Brick Lane. I often go to the "Beigel" bakeries at the other end of Brick Lane, and it's a 10 minute walk from Aldgate East to the bakeries. I normally opt for the #8 bus, even though it takes much longer from Victoria, as it stops across the street from Brick Land at the upper end. Do they have much of a hope? When was the last time a tube station was renamed for something other than an external redefinition (e.g. "Heathrow Central" - "Heathrow Terminals 1, 2 & 3") or typographical simplicity (can't think of a tube, though on NR "Boxhill & Westhumble" is now "Box Hill & Westhumble" in line with the hill in question)? And who would pay for it all? Also is interchange at street level currently permitted between the Aldgates? (If not it would be bloody useful - there are times when it seems quicker to do this than wait for an H&C train.) Changing the name could cause confusion. And what about the rest of the area Aldgate East serves? I can't see "Brick Lane" taking off as a name for that part of London, although is "Aldgate" or "Aldgate East" widely used in any formal or informal sense? (London Metropolitan University calls the old London Guildhall end of things the "London City" campus.) I think it makes sense, as I'm sure people have been confused between the two in the past. It would be exciting to have a new station name. The main difficulty would, I suppose, be the cost of printing new maps and signs. With the current wave of multiculturalism, it would probably be a good thing for the neighbourhood. I'm in favour. -- Chris Hansen | chrishansenhome at btinternet dot com www.christianphansen.com or chrishansenhome.livejournal.co |
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On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 08:16:33 -0000, "Richard Rundle"
wrote: "Tim Roll-Pickering" wrote in message ... When was the last time a tube station was renamed for something other than an external redefinition (e.g. "Heathrow Central" - "Heathrow Terminals 1, 2 & 3") or typographical simplicity (can't think of a tube, though on NR "Boxhill & Westhumble" is now "Box Hill & Westhumble" in line with the hill in question)? And who would pay for it all? Surrey Docks - Surrey Quays? Aldersgate - Barbican? Yes, i know it was officially Aldersgate and Barbican but the Barbican bit was very rarely mentioned prior to the renamimg. |
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Christian Hansen wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 03:10:58 -0000, "Tim Roll-Pickering" wrote: Tristán White wrote: What do you think of the petition by Brick Lane residents and shop and restaurant owners to get Aldgate East renamed "Brick Lane" to boost the area. Having lost Shoreditch station, they're getting a bit of a rum deal at the moment. I've always been rather sceptical of the idea that Shoreditch is/was the best station for Brick Lane. Personally I've always found Aldgate East to be the most useful. I guess if you were travelling from south of Whitechapel and Shoreditch was open then it might be useful, but Aldgate East comes out at a better place for walking Brick Lane properly. Depends on where you're going on Brick Lane. I often go to the "Beigel" bakeries at the other end of Brick Lane, and it's a 10 minute walk from Aldgate East to the bakeries. So the new Shoreditch High Street station when it opens would be equally if not more convenient than Aldgate East for the north end of Brick Lane. I don't see how the closure of a station that was generally open only in peak hours would have a major impact on the restaurants. Perhaps they should concentrate on the quality of the food rather than aggressively harrassing pedestrians on Brick Lane or organising ill-founded petitions. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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And what about the rest of the area Aldgate East serves? I can't see
"Brick Lane" taking off as a name for that part of London, although is "Aldgate" or "Aldgate East" widely used in any formal or informal sense? (London Metropolitan University calls the old London Guildhall end of things the "London City" campus.) I think it makes sense, as I'm sure people have been confused between the two in the past. It would be exciting to have a new station name. The main difficulty would, I suppose, be the cost of printing new maps and signs. With the current wave of multiculturalism, it would probably be a good thing for the neighbourhood. I'm in favour. If it were named after the area rather than the road it should probably be called Banglatown (after the Tower Hamlets ward). However, Aldgate East station serves a much wider area than just Brick Lane. I don't think it would be a very good idea to rename it. Brick Lane doesn't even meet up with Whitechapel High Street (Osborn Street links it - perhaps if they are desperate to rename something they should rename Osborn Street to Brick Lane first?). Also Brick Lane goes right up beyond Bethnal Green Road and into the Boundary Estate, a long way from Aldgate East tube and nearer to Liverpool Street. |
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On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 06:18:00 -0000, John Rowland wrote:
What do you think of the petition by Brick Lane residents and shop and restaurant owners to get Aldgate East renamed "Brick Lane" to boost the area. I hope they don't get their way. The station isn't in Brick lane, or very near it. It would also invite a flurry of other requests to rename stations for commercial purposes, and would leave LU with no excuse to deny those requests. Look forward to Waterloo being renamed London Eye, etc. Does the name of South Kensington get changed to Museum Central or Royal Albert Hall? Perhaps they could hold auctions - highest bidder gets to name their station. |
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On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 09:34:24 -0000, Paul Scott wrote:
Maybe they should proceed by stealth, and ask for notices bythe platform roundels 'for Brick Lane' cf Maida Vale 'for Little Venice'. This wouldn't require the entire system to have the maps changed, like they will for 'Shepherds Bush Market' in due course... That's not much use for tourists - you wouldn't know what station to head to for Brick Lane until you were already there... Besides, they say in the BBC article (URL below) that it's the advertising on the Tube map that they want. A thought occurs - if they really want the station to have the same name as their street, why don't they take the initiative and change the name of the street to Aldgate East Lane? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6183977.stm |
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On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 06:18:00 -0000, John Rowland wrote:
Aldgate East station is in Whitechapel High Street. It should probably be called Whitechapel, and Whitechapel should be called something else! Forgot to add - Whitechapel is in Whitechapel Road. So by that logic maybe they should be called Whitechapel West and Whitechapel East. Moving along the line, Stepney Green and Mile End are both on Mile End Road... |
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asdf wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 06:18:00 -0000, John Rowland wrote: Aldgate East station is in Whitechapel High Street. It should probably be called Whitechapel, and Whitechapel should be called something else! Forgot to add - Whitechapel is in Whitechapel Road. So by that logic maybe they should be called Whitechapel West and Whitechapel East. Moving along the line, Stepney Green and Mile End are both on Mile End Road... But Mile End is where it should be - a mile up the road from the City. Tis named after a milestone. And the road is named after the place. |
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asdf wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 06:18:00 -0000, John Rowland wrote: Aldgate East station is in Whitechapel High Street. It should probably be called Whitechapel, and Whitechapel should be called something else! Forgot to add - Whitechapel is in Whitechapel Road. So by that logic maybe they should be called Whitechapel West and Whitechapel East. Surely Whitechapel Road means the road *to* Whitechapel, and a Londoner going to Whitechapel Road would (rightly) not assume that Whitechapel was the right station, anymore than anyone going to an address in Edgware Road would expect Edgware to be the right station. However, anyone going to Whitechapel High Street would quite reasonably expect it to be around Whitechapel station. |
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"Paul Scott" wrote in
: "Tristán White" wrote in message 9.145... What do you think of the petition by Brick Lane residents and shop and restaurant owners to get Aldgate East renamed "Brick Lane" to boost the area. Having lost Shoreditch station, they're getting a bit of a rum deal at the moment. Do they have much of a hope? Maybe they should proceed by stealth, and ask for notices bythe platform roundels 'for Brick Lane' cf Maida Vale 'for Little Venice'. This wouldn't require the entire system to have the maps changed, like they will for 'Shepherds Bush Market' in due course... Paul Something really should be done asap about Shepherds Bush. How confusing is it to have two completely unconnected stations with exactly the same name. I wonder how many unsuspecting tourists or lovers have agreed to meet outside the exit of Shepherds Bush and never found one another.... With the West London Line opening, there'll be a third Shepherds Bush. Can you interchange between the two existing ones on one journey à la Bow Road/Church? Shepherd's Bush Market will make a positive change. Renaming all three would be even better. But the best option in my opinion, but probably impossible from an engineering prospect, would be to keep all of them as Shepherd's Bush and link them all via underground escalator walkways a like Monument/Bank and Kings X/St P. Other confusing ones include Hammersmith - two separate stations opposite one another. But at least the two exits are close to one another, but having Hammersmith North and Hammersmith South (or wherever they're facing) would be simpler. Or better still, somehow link the two together and have them down as two different exits from the same interchange. Not sure about Paddington one - I think it's possible to get from one to the other without going to street level isn't it? but you have to walk past some NR platforms or something.... been a while since I went down there. |
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John Rowland wrote: Tristán White wrote: What do you think of the petition by Brick Lane residents and shop and restaurant owners to get Aldgate East renamed "Brick Lane" to boost the area. I hope they don't get their way. The station isn't in Brick lane, or very near it. At the junction of St Helens Gardens and Oxford Gardens there is a sign saying... --- Latimer Road Station Latimer Road ------ ... or something similar. To me, this is a clear indication that Latimer Road station needs to be renamed. If Aldgate East station was renamed to Brick Lane, we would then need signs telling people that Brick Lane is this way, but Brick Lane Station is that way. The station be named Latimer Road for in the days of yore the south end of Latimer Road was approximately where Freston Road be now, and I believe the station may have been on the other side of Bramley Road, though of that I cannot be sure. The reconfiguration of the roads in that there area twas presumably a result of the coming of the Westway, possibly with some prior 'help' from the Luftwaffe. Aldgate East station is in Whitechapel High Street. It should probably be called Whitechapel, and Whitechapel should be called something else! There's no convention in this country that says stations must be named after the roads there on. Aldgate East is in the vicinity of Aldgate, so I don't really buy that argument. I can see a multitude of arguments for renaming many, many stations, given that the names they were originally given were often somewhat misleading. However renaming stations would be opening a real can of worms, which is I'm sure one good reason why any such renamings are rare. Plus once you've let the genie out of the bottle then everyone would be knocking on the door of LU (or whoever's in charge of National Rail station names) pestering them to change it for x,y or z worthy or not-so-worthy reason. Yes I know Shepherd's Bush is having a name change - but that's a change that pretty much everyone can agree on. All that said, I'd go along with Latimer Road station as a prime candidate for renaming, given the disappearance of the southern-end of Latimer Road! Additionally I've no objection to the use of "for" in station names - "Aldgate East for Brick Lane" perhaps, though I'm sure Whitechapel Art Gallery would want in on that too! (Many heading for the art gallery head to Whitechapel station.) Of course using "for" naming is only so helpful as it's impractical to include these subtitle names on maps and/or line diagrams - though "Cutty Sark for Maritime Greenwich" has managed to get a full namecheck on both the Tube map and the (ATOC produced) London Connections map. |
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asdf wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 06:18:00 -0000, John Rowland wrote: What do you think of the petition by Brick Lane residents and shop and restaurant owners to get Aldgate East renamed "Brick Lane" to boost the area. I hope they don't get their way. The station isn't in Brick lane, or very near it. It would also invite a flurry of other requests to rename stations for commercial purposes, and would leave LU with no excuse to deny those requests. Look forward to Waterloo being renamed London Eye, etc. Does the name of South Kensington get changed to Museum Central or Royal Albert Hall? Perhaps they could hold auctions - highest bidder gets to name their station. IKEA Ampere Way tram stop? -- Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK |
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Mizter T wrote:
John Rowland wrote: Aldgate East station is in Whitechapel High Street. It should probably be called Whitechapel, and Whitechapel should be called something else! There's no convention in this country that says stations must be named after the roads there on. Aldgate East is in the vicinity of Aldgate, so I don't really buy that argument. No, it's in the vicinity of Whitechapel, as evidenced by the fact that it's on Whitechapel High Street. Yes I know Shepherd's Bush is having a name change - but that's a change that pretty much everyone can agree on. I don't know... Shepherds Bush Market has an entrance opposite Goldhawk Road station. People standing in the foyer of Goldhawk Road Station looking out will naturally think the they are in Shepherds Bush Market station, and if they are phoning to be picked up, this could lead to confusion. Additionally I've no objection to the use of "for" in station names - "Aldgate East for Brick Lane" perhaps, though I'm sure Whitechapel Art Gallery would want in on that too! (Many heading for the art gallery head to Whitechapel station.) .... because the art gallery is on Whitechapel High Street.... which is why Aldgate East should be called Whitechapel, and Whitechapel shouldn't be! |
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Tristán White wrote:
Something really should be done asap about Shepherds Bush. I presume they've been waiting until Wood Lane station opens, and they have to redo all the H&C maps anyway. With the West London Line opening, there'll be a third Shepherds Bush. Can you interchange between the two existing ones on one journey à la Bow Road/Church? No. Renaming all three would be even better. But the best option in my opinion, but probably impossible from an engineering prospect, would be to keep all of them as Shepherd's Bush. Not really. The Central and WLL stations will have entrances on opposite sides of the road into the new bus station, so interchange should be easy and it makes sense to give them the same name. The H&C station is nowhere near the other two. U |
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In message . com,
Mizter T writes The station be named Latimer Road for in the days of yore the south end of Latimer Road was approximately where Freston Road be now, and I believe the station may have been on the other side of Bramley Road, though of that I cannot be sure. You be correct. Originally the line had no station here at all, but when one was built it was sited between Bramley Road and Latimer Road: http://www.oldlondonmaps.com/stanfor...helsea02b.html -- Paul Terry |
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Do they have much of a hope? Hopefully not - Aldgate East is not on the Brick Lane... London is full of misplaced stations (Whitechapel, Rotherhithe, Bermondsey, Shepherd's Bush) and we don't need yet another one. |
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In message . 145,
Tristán White writes Something really should be done asap about Shepherds Bush. How confusing is it to have two completely unconnected stations with exactly the same name. I'm sure the denizens of Shepherds Bush are used to it. The original Shepherds Bush station on what is now the H&C was moved much further north to its present position in 1914. Then there was the Shepherds Bush station on the LSWR loop line, on the south side of the green and now long gone. The Central line Shepherd's Bush is on the north side, of course, and almost next to it was the West London Line station for Shepherds Bush (helpfully called Uxbridge Road, although it will be called Shepherds Bush in its re-incarnated form). And that's not to mention Goldhawk Road, which is very handy for the market, despite the fact that it will be Shepherds Bush (H&C) that is to be re-named Shepherds Bush Market. Then there are the various comings and goings of the nearby Wood Lane / White City stations ... and nobody knows there the flaming bush is, anyway! -- Paul Terry |
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In message . 145,
Tristán White writes Shepherd's Bush Market will make a positive change. Renaming all three would be even better. But the best option in my opinion, but probably impossible from an engineering prospect, would be to keep all of them as Shepherd's Bush and link them all via underground escalator walkways a like Monument/Bank and Kings X/St P. Its not so much the engineering as the fact that very few passengers are likely to use such an interchange. Other confusing ones include Hammersmith - two separate stations opposite one another. But at least the two exits are close to one another, but having Hammersmith North and Hammersmith South (or wherever they're facing) would be simpler. North Hammersmith is miles away (the area around Hammersmith Hospital, well north of Shepherds Bush) so this would be potentially very confusing. Or better still, somehow link the two together and have them down as two different exits from the same interchange. A physical link, such as an underground passageway, would have been possible during the many occasions when Hammersmith Broadway has been rebuilt over the years. I suspect that it never happened because the number of passengers requiring such an interchange is very small indeed. -- Paul Terry |
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Paul Terry wrote:
A physical link, such as an underground passageway, would have been possible during the many occasions when Hammersmith Broadway has been rebuilt over the years. I suspect that it never happened because the number of passengers requiring such an interchange is very small indeed. If there was never an underground passageway, then what "Subway to District and Piccadilly lines" is this (former) sign referring to? http://greenberger.no-ip.com/gallery...geViewsIndex=1 -- David of Broadway New York, NY |
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"David of Broadway" wrote in message
... Paul Terry wrote: A physical link, such as an underground passageway, would have been possible during the many occasions when Hammersmith Broadway has been rebuilt over the years. I suspect that it never happened because the number of passengers requiring such an interchange is very small indeed. If there was never an underground passageway, then what "Subway to District and Piccadilly lines" is this (former) sign referring to? http://greenberger.no-ip.com/gallery...geViewsIndex=1 It could have been referring to one of the subways under the road? -- David Biddulph |
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In message 5, Tristán
White writes What do you think of the petition by Brick Lane residents and shop and restaurant owners to get Aldgate East renamed "Brick Lane" to boost the area. Having lost Shoreditch station, they're getting a bit of a rum deal at the moment. Do they have much of a hope? I'd have said Aldgate East being right on top of Brick Lane should be the one renamed (if any). Well they did rename Gillespie Road to please a load of footy fans, so I reckon renaming Aldgate East to Brick Lane is ok, and they probably stand the best chance with Ken as mayor. -- Edward Cowling London UK |
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They've already had one half-hearted attempt at this about 15 years ago
when Shepherd's Bush(C) was going to become Shepherd's Bush Green. As part of this plan new enamel line diagrams at Mile End WB carried the new name, and indeed still do! I'm not sure if it ever appeared/appears anywhere else and it certainly never got as far as Shepherd's Bush(C) station itself. If we can't have two Shepherd's Bush stations where does that leave Edgware Road, Hammersmith and Paddington? As for confusion for people arranging to meet outside a station, this can occur even at a single site where there are multiple exits (e.g. Victoria). |
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On Sat, 30 Dec 2006, John Rowland wrote:
Mizter T wrote: John Rowland wrote: Aldgate East station is in Whitechapel High Street. It should probably be called Whitechapel, and Whitechapel should be called something else! There's no convention in this country that says stations must be named after the roads there on. Aldgate East is in the vicinity of Aldgate, so I don't really buy that argument. No, it's in the vicinity of Whitechapel, as evidenced by the fact that it's on Whitechapel High Street. Don't people now refer to the area around Whitechapel tube as Whitechapel, though? Yes I know Shepherd's Bush is having a name change - but that's a change that pretty much everyone can agree on. I don't know... Shepherds Bush Market has an entrance opposite Goldhawk Road station. People standing in the foyer of Goldhawk Road Station looking out will naturally think the they are in Shepherds Bush Market station, and if they are phoning to be picked up, this could lead to confusion. Heh! tom -- Don't ask me man, i didn't do it. |
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On Sat, 30 Dec 2006, Paul Terry wrote:
Then there are the various comings and goings of the nearby Wood Lane / White City stations I think i missed the fact that the H&C station isn't going to be called White City. Is there a plan for behind-the-barriers interchange? Was there ever? Or am i thinking of Park Royal? ... and nobody knows there the flaming bush is, anyway! Mount Sinai? :) tom -- Don't ask me man, i didn't do it. |
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On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 12:40:38 +0000, Tom Anderson
wrote: On Sat, 30 Dec 2006, John Rowland wrote: Mizter T wrote: John Rowland wrote: Aldgate East station is in Whitechapel High Street. It should probably be called Whitechapel, and Whitechapel should be called something else! There's no convention in this country that says stations must be named after the roads there on. Aldgate East is in the vicinity of Aldgate, so I don't really buy that argument. No, it's in the vicinity of Whitechapel, as evidenced by the fact that it's on Whitechapel High Street. Don't people now refer to the area around Whitechapel tube as Whitechapel, though? Yup, IME. See, frex: http://www.bartsandthelondon.org.uk/...to_find_us.asp "Directions and site maps are available for The Royal London Hospital in Whitechapel". |
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On Sat, 30 Dec 2006, Tristán White wrote:
Not sure about Paddington one - I think it's possible to get from one to the other without going to street level isn't it? but you have to walk past some NR platforms or something.... been a while since I went down there. There's no behind-the-barriers interchange. You have to go through the mainline station. I have been told that it's also possible to get from the H&C platforms to the concourse without going through any barriers at all, but that's another story ... tom PS ISTR that the technical term for what i'm called 'behind-the-barriers' interchange is 'fare-paid' - is that right, or is my mind going? -- Don't ask me man, i didn't do it. |
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Tom Anderson wrote:
PS ISTR that the technical term for what i'm called 'behind-the-barriers' interchange is 'fare-paid' - is that right, or is my mind going? In NYC we speak of that area as being inside fare control. I don't know if that term is also used in London. -- David of Broadway New York, NY, USA |
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David Biddulph wrote:
"David of Broadway" wrote in message ... Paul Terry wrote: A physical link, such as an underground passageway, would have been possible during the many occasions when Hammersmith Broadway has been rebuilt over the years. I suspect that it never happened because the number of passengers requiring such an interchange is very small indeed. If there was never an underground passageway, then what "Subway to District and Piccadilly lines" is this (former) sign referring to? http://greenberger.no-ip.com/gallery...geViewsIndex=1 It could have been referring to one of the subways under the road? What do you mean by "one of the subways under the road" if not "an underground passageway"? -- David of Broadway New York, NY, USA |
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David of Broadway wrote:
Paul Terry wrote: A physical link, such as an underground passageway, would have been possible during the many occasions when Hammersmith Broadway has been rebuilt over the years. I suspect that it never happened because the number of passengers requiring such an interchange is very small indeed. If there was never an underground passageway, then what "Subway to District and Piccadilly lines" is this (former) sign referring to? http://greenberger.no-ip.com/gallery...geViewsIndex=1 A public subway, not behind the ticket lines. |
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There was such a subway run by Hammersmith Council which as well as
linking the D&P and Met stations also housed two public conveniences. Both straircase entrances were on the pavement and thus did not provide a rain-free route between the two sites. I think it got a bit disreputable in the evenings and was prone to flooding on occasions. I guess it was felt safer to replace it by pedestrian crossings at street level after the Hammersmith shopping centre scheme was completed. |
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On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 12:31:15 +0000, Edward Cowling London UK
wrote: In message 5, Tristán White writes What do you think of the petition by Brick Lane residents and shop and restaurant owners to get Aldgate East renamed "Brick Lane" to boost the area. Having lost Shoreditch station, they're getting a bit of a rum deal at the moment. Do they have much of a hope? I'd have said Aldgate East being right on top of Brick Lane should be the one renamed (if any). Well they did rename Gillespie Road to please a load of footy fans, Paid for, IIRC, by Arsenal Football Club. so I reckon renaming Aldgate East to Brick Lane is ok, Well, if the businesses petitioning want to pay the costs involved... |
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James Farrar wrote:
On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 12:40:38 +0000, Tom Anderson wrote: On Sat, 30 Dec 2006, John Rowland wrote: Mizter T wrote: John Rowland wrote: Aldgate East station is in Whitechapel High Street. It should probably be called Whitechapel, and Whitechapel should be called something else! Aldgate East is in the vicinity of Aldgate, so I don't really buy that argument. No, it's in the vicinity of Whitechapel, as evidenced by the fact that it's on Whitechapel High Street. Don't people now refer to the area around Whitechapel tube as Whitechapel, though? Yup, IME. See, frex: http://www.bartsandthelondon.org.uk/...to_find_us.asp "Directions and site maps are available for The Royal London Hospital in Whitechapel". I don't think anyone is disputing that Whitechapel Station and the RL Hospital are in Whitechapel. But Aldgate East is (as I may have already mentioned) in Whitechapel High Street, and if you're going to have a station called Whitechapel, Aldgate East should be the one. Actually, rename Whitechapel to Whitechapel Hospital, and rename the hospital to that as well. Then after 10 years or so you could rename Aldgate East to Whitechapel, or Whitechapel High Street. |
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"David of Broadway" wrote in message
... David Biddulph wrote: "David of Broadway" wrote in message ... Paul Terry wrote: A physical link, such as an underground passageway, would have been possible during the many occasions when Hammersmith Broadway has been rebuilt over the years. I suspect that it never happened because the number of passengers requiring such an interchange is very small indeed. If there was never an underground passageway, then what "Subway to District and Piccadilly lines" is this (former) sign referring to? http://greenberger.no-ip.com/gallery...geViewsIndex=1 It could have been referring to one of the subways under the road? What do you mean by "one of the subways under the road" if not "an underground passageway"? I meant one from outside the station, rather than a direct link between the two stations. -- David Biddulph |
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