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Most scenic route on the tube?
What do you think is the most scenic route on the tube? Is it the Amersham
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wrote in message ... What do you think is the most scenic route on the tube? Is it the Amersham bit of the Metropolitain line? Waterloo to Embankment -- JFG |
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"JFGrieve" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... What do you think is the most scenic route on the tube? Is it the Amersham bit of the Metropolitain line? Waterloo to Embankment -- JFG Why? |
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wrote in message ... What do you think is the most scenic route on the tube? Is it the Amersham bit of the Metropolitain line? Holborn To Acton Town Sights include: Door To Aldwich Down St Brompton Rd Acton Town Plt 5 Andrew |
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On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 00:53:03 -0000, Andy wrote:
Acton Town Plt 5 Where's that? |
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On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 22:45:50 GMT, wrote:
"JFGrieve" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... What do you think is the most scenic route on the tube? Is it the Amersham bit of the Metropolitain line? Waterloo to Embankment Why? I think he might be teasing you by citing an example where there is no view whatsoever. -- Paul C Admits to working for London Underground! |
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Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 22:45:50 GMT, wrote: "JFGrieve" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... What do you think is the most scenic route on the tube? Is it the Amersham bit of the Metropolitain line? Waterloo to Embankment Why? I think he might be teasing you by citing an example where there is no view whatsoever. Of course if you walk it you'll be treated to some great view over the river as you cross one of the two Hungerford Millennium footbridges. Alternatively you could spend the time people watching instead. The author of the Going Underground blog is certainly fascinated by the Tube's fashion victims [1]. As, indeed, am I! Though as my present wardrobe isn't spectacularly outlandish maybe I should be joining them... perhaps I'll travel as a Tiger, replete with snogging accessory[2]... I think this might be veering off-topic! [1] http://london-underground.blogspot.com/ [2] http://london-underground.blogspot.c...s-on-tube.html |
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On 8 Jan 2007 11:35:25 -0800, "Mizter T" wrote:
Paul Corfield wrote: On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 22:45:50 GMT, wrote: "JFGrieve" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... What do you think is the most scenic route on the tube? Is it the Amersham bit of the Metropolitain line? Waterloo to Embankment Why? I think he might be teasing you by citing an example where there is no view whatsoever. Of course if you walk it you'll be treated to some great view over the river as you cross one of the two Hungerford Millennium footbridges. I prefer the view from Waterloo Bridge which is one of my favourite London views. Alternatively you could spend the time people watching instead. The author of the Going Underground blog is certainly fascinated by the Tube's fashion victims [1]. As, indeed, am I! I had a quick look at the blog - I can't get into that at all. And as for the fashion sniping well I'm sure people could spend their time more effectively. I mean really - there must be something better to do while travelling round on the tube e.g. sleeping! Though as my present wardrobe isn't spectacularly outlandish maybe I should be joining them... perhaps I'll travel as a Tiger, replete with snogging accessory[2]... I think this might be veering off-topic! I already have a particular mental picture of what you must be like. It would probably go into meltdown if you were to do this. g -- Paul C Admits to working for London Underground! |
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Mizter T wrote:
Paul Corfield wrote: On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 22:45:50 GMT, wrote: "JFGrieve" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... What do you think is the most scenic route on the tube? Is it the Amersham bit of the Metropolitain line? Waterloo to Embankment Why? I think he might be teasing you by citing an example where there is no view whatsoever. Of course if you walk it you'll be treated to some great view over the river as you cross one of the two Hungerford Millennium footbridges. They're not Millennium bridges. You're perhaps thinking of that interesting suspension bridge downstream. The bridges are officially the Golden Jubilee Bridges. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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Paul Corfield wrote:
On 8 Jan 2007 11:35:25 -0800, "Mizter T" wrote: Paul Corfield wrote: On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 22:45:50 GMT, wrote: "JFGrieve" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... What do you think is the most scenic route on the tube? Is it the Amersham bit of the Metropolitain line? Waterloo to Embankment Why? I think he might be teasing you by citing an example where there is no view whatsoever. Of course if you walk it you'll be treated to some great view over the river as you cross one of the two Hungerford Millennium footbridges. I prefer the view from Waterloo Bridge which is one of my favourite London views. I agree, I think it must come out top of all the on bridge related views. Alternatively you could spend the time people watching instead. The author of the Going Underground blog is certainly fascinated by the Tube's fashion victims [1]. As, indeed, am I! I had a quick look at the blog - I can't get into that at all. And as for the fashion sniping well I'm sure people could spend their time more effectively. I mean really - there must be something better to do while travelling round on the tube e.g. sleeping! To be honest my comments regarding that blog were somewhat flippant and were prompted more by some subconscious need to write catchy yet ultimately naff prose than a desire to reflect my own views. I actually sort-of think the blog it's a touch invasive, well it's certainly not cutting social commentary. I guess what I meant to say was that the Tube is, as many public places are, a good place for people watching - though I don't think I get a gold star in being observant for saying that. And no I'm not the weirdo who spend his time staring piercingly at everyone else in the carriage! I'm more likely to be the person who's surreptitiously eyeing up the carriage for an abandoned quality (i.e. not free) newspaper, having managed to forget my book and having annoyingly mislaid my own paper at a mystery location somewhere during the day. Or perhaps I'm shiftily putting my in my earphones, painfully aware of how this action means I become yet another member of the regimented masses of iPodistas, yet still hoping that my choice of thoughful listening, a Radio 4 podcast of Melvyn Bragg's In Our Time programme concerning the philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein, might somehow mean I get a little more out of my personal audio experience than listening to the latest hits of some up and coming beat-combo, but I'll probably finish my journey even more confused than when I started it and without the planned feeling of smug one-upmanship over my fellow subterranean riders (though of course there's the consolation that Melvyn Bragg seems to have had a similarly hard time feigning understanding of the topic and has only just managed to maintain his everpresent mask of smugness). Anyway, I digress. Though as my present wardrobe isn't spectacularly outlandish maybe I should be joining them... perhaps I'll travel as a Tiger, replete with snogging accessory[2]... I think this might be veering off-topic! I already have a particular mental picture of what you must be like. It would probably go into meltdown if you were to do this. g I'm not sure whether I should be disturbed or very disturbed ;-) I just measured the tone of utl using Tom Andersen's past posts so I think he should take all the blame. Plus, unfortunately, I somewhat think Dom Joly's beaten me to it in the old dressing up as animals in public routine. Shame. http://www.comedycentral.com/images/shows/trigger_happy_tv/downloads/thtv_wallpaper02_800x600.jpg |
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Richard J. wrote:
Mizter T wrote: (snip) Of course if you walk it you'll be treated to some great view over the river as you cross one of the two Hungerford Millennium footbridges. They're not Millennium bridges. You're perhaps thinking of that interesting suspension bridge downstream. The bridges are officially the Golden Jubilee Bridges. Of course they are, your correction is appreciated. Though I am thinking of the pair of Hungerford footbridges and not the no-longer-wobbly Millenium Bridge. I'm pretty certain they have some Millennium connection - were they not a Millennium project, funded by the Millenium Commission? However for reasons unknown my memory suggests that they were once given the provisional moniker of the "Hungerford Millennium Bridges" and were renamed to the Golden Jubilee Bridges given that they were late for the Millennium. Given that I can find scant reference to support this it seems I must have made it up. |
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wrote in message ups.com... wrote: What do you think is the most scenic route on the tube? Is it the Amersham bit of the Metropolitain line? It's only a short section, but Croxley to Watford on the Met., passing over the GUC is quite pleasant. Although between Chalfont & Latimer and Chesham its the longest gap between two stations. And the shortest I think is between Herons Quays and Canary Wharf. |
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Paul Corfield wrote: On 8 Jan 2007 11:35:25 -0800, "Mizter T" wrote: Paul Corfield wrote: On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 22:45:50 GMT, wrote: "JFGrieve" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... What do you think is the most scenic route on the tube? Is it the Amersham bit of the Metropolitain line? Waterloo to Embankment Why? I think he might be teasing you by citing an example where there is no view whatsoever. Of course if you walk it you'll be treated to some great view over the river as you cross one of the two Hungerford Millennium footbridges. I prefer the view from Waterloo Bridge which is one of my favourite London views. The Kinks thought this as well. SB |
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writes I prefer the view from Waterloo Bridge which is one of my favourite London views. As it is mine, too. In fact, during training I was admonished for suggesting people look both ways from the bridge as we crossed it in a coach! -- Ian Jelf, MITG Birmingham, UK Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk |
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writes I prefer the view from Waterloo Bridge which is one of my favourite London views. The Kinks thought this as well. "Waterloo Sunset" happens to be my favourite song of all time. I suppose to answer the OP's question, we really need to know if s/he means the most scenic as being "beautiful" or "interesting". For the former, I really do love the outer sections of the Met. To my regret I've not done the Chesham branch. Must put that right one day. For "interesting" I'd put the suburban splendour of the outer bits of the Piccadilly (both ends, actually), shared Piccadilly/District alignment and the original section of the Metropolitan. Actually, for interest I'm more a "stations" person than a trains one, so my list of interesting (beautiful, even) stations would have to include: Southgate/Oakwood/Sudbury for 30s splendour Baker Street for design and early Underground atmosphere Gants Hill for the "Moscow" concourse Newbury Park for the slightly wacky bus station (if it's still there?) Maida Vale for the best bit of Leslie Green design not by Leslie Green Westminster and Canary Wharf to show that London Underground today can - when it tries - follow in the Holden/Pick tradition. I'm sure there are other excellent ones I've missed! -- Ian Jelf, MITG Birmingham, UK Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk |
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asdf wrote: Acton Town Plt 5 Where's that? On the north side of the station, next to the eastbound District line platform. Now has advertising hoarings built over part of the trackbed. There is/used to be a view of the platform area from the eastern of the two footbridges, showing the stairs down and the platform still extant, although the rebuilding work currently taking place at Acton Town may now prevent this. The platform used to serve the District shuttle to South Acton. |
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Ian Jelf wrote:
Newbury Park for the slightly wacky bus station (if it's still there?) I call it the Toast Rack, and it was still there last summer. |
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"Mizter T" wrote in message
oups.com... Richard J. wrote: Mizter T wrote: (snip) Of course if you walk it you'll be treated to some great view over the river as you cross one of the two Hungerford Millennium footbridges. They're not Millennium bridges. You're perhaps thinking of that interesting suspension bridge downstream. The bridges are officially the Golden Jubilee Bridges. Of course they are, your correction is appreciated. Though I am thinking of the pair of Hungerford footbridges and not the no-longer-wobbly Millenium Bridge. I'm pretty certain they have some Millennium connection - were they not a Millennium project, funded by the Millenium Commission? However for reasons unknown my memory suggests that they were once given the provisional moniker of the "Hungerford Millennium Bridges" and were renamed to the Golden Jubilee Bridges given that they were late for the Millennium. Given that I can find scant reference to support this it seems I must have made it up. http://www.lusas.com/case/bridge/hungerford.html http://www.integer-software.co.uk/so...footbridge.htm -- David Biddulph |
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"Mizter T" wrote in message oups.com... wrote: wrote in message ups.com... wrote: What do you think is the most scenic route on the tube? Is it the Amersham bit of the Metropolitain line? It's only a short section, but Croxley to Watford on the Met., passing over the GUC is quite pleasant. Although between Chalfont & Latimer and Chesham its the longest gap between two stations. And the shortest I think is between Herons Quays and Canary Wharf. Herons Quay to Canary Wharf may be on the Underground map but it ain't on the Underground. Ok then whats the shortest distance on the Underground? |
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"Mizter T" wrote in message oups.com... wrote: wrote in message ups.com... wrote: What do you think is the most scenic route on the tube? Is it the Amersham bit of the Metropolitain line? It's only a short section, but Croxley to Watford on the Met., passing over the GUC is quite pleasant. Although between Chalfont & Latimer and Chesham its the longest gap between two stations. And the shortest I think is between Herons Quays and Canary Wharf. Herons Quay to Canary Wharf may be on the Underground map but it ain't on the Underground. Ok then whats the shortest distance on the Underground? Leicester Square to Covent Garden, 0.16 mile (0.26 km). -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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On 8 Jan 2007 15:12:22 -0800, "Keith Raeburn"
wrote: asdf wrote: Acton Town Plt 5 Where's that? On the north side of the station, next to the eastbound District line platform. Now has advertising hoarings built over part of the trackbed. There is/used to be a view of the platform area from the eastern of the two footbridges, showing the stairs down and the platform still extant, although the rebuilding work currently taking place at Acton Town may now prevent this. The platform used to serve the District shuttle to South Acton. Oh, the TABWTKB. |
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"SamB" wrote in message ups.com... wrote: Herons Quay to Canary Wharf may be on the Underground map but it ain't on the Underground. Ok then whats the shortest distance on the Underground? I know they're not the shortest, but some of the DLR ones must be pretty close, down near Canary Wharf. They're amazingly close... Anyone know the distances? Just read this on Wikipedia "The distance from West India Quay DLR to Canary Wharf DLR is just 0.08 miles, the shortest distance on the entire London Underground and Docklands Light Railway system." |
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wrote: "Mizter T" wrote in message oups.com... wrote: Although between Chalfont & Latimer and Chesham its the longest gap between two stations. And the shortest I think is between Herons Quays and Canary Wharf. Herons Quay to Canary Wharf may be on the Underground map but it ain't on the Underground. Ok then whats the shortest distance on the Underground? Leicester Square to Covent Garden, 0.16 mile (0.26 km). Enbankment to Charing Cross on the Northern Line can't be much longer either, but I don't know how far it is. -- Olof Lagerkvist ICQ: 724451 Web: http://here.is/olof |
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Paul Corfield wrote: I prefer the view from Waterloo Bridge which is one of my favourite London views. Paul Which line of the *Underground* is Waterloo Bridge on?? Ian (Admits to having been round the Underground in a day, but not seeing this bit...!!) |
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writes I know they're not the shortest, but some of the DLR ones must be pretty close, down near Canary Wharf. They're amazingly close... Anyone know the distances? Yes: they're on my web site. -- Clive D.W. Feather | Home: Tel: +44 20 8495 6138 (work) | Web: http://www.davros.org Fax: +44 870 051 9937 | Work: Please reply to the Reply-To address, which is: |
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On 9 Jan 2007 02:48:33 -0800, "Ian Rivett" wrote:
Paul Corfield wrote: I prefer the view from Waterloo Bridge which is one of my favourite London views. Paul Which line of the *Underground* is Waterloo Bridge on?? None AFAIK. -- Paul C Admits to working for London Underground! |
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Yes, Chalfont & Latimer to Chesham is nice with its views of the Chess
Valley. But I thought that Leicester Square-Covent Garden was the shortest distance between two stations on London's rail transport network. wrote in message ... Although between Chalfont & Latimer and Chesham its the longest gap between two stations. And the shortest I think is between Herons Quays and Canary Wharf. |
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saying : Although between Chalfont & Latimer and Chesham its the longest gap between two stations. And the shortest I think is between Herons Quays and Canary Wharf. But I thought that Leicester Square-Covent Garden was the shortest distance between two stations on London's rail transport network. Shortest street distance, p'raps. Shortest line distance may well be on the DLR. |
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Paul Corfield:
I prefer the view from Waterloo Bridge which is one of my favourite London views. Ian Jelf: As it is mine, too. In fact, during training I was admonished for suggesting people look both ways from the bridge as we crossed it in a coach! This was the training to be a Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide? Why the admonition? -- Mark Brader "Well, it's not in MY interest -- and I represent Toronto the public, so it's not in the public interest!" -- Jim Hacker, "Yes, Minister" (Lynn & Jay) |
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Olof Lagerkvist wrote:
Richard J. wrote: wrote: "Mizter T" wrote in message oups.com... wrote: Although between Chalfont & Latimer and Chesham its the longest gap between two stations. And the shortest I think is between Herons Quays and Canary Wharf. Herons Quay to Canary Wharf may be on the Underground map but it ain't on the Underground. Ok then whats the shortest distance on the Underground? Leicester Square to Covent Garden, 0.16 mile (0.26 km). Enbankment to Charing Cross on the Northern Line can't be much longer either, but I don't know how far it is. According to Clive Feather's site http://www.davros.org/rail/culg/ , it's also 0.26 km to the nearest 10 metres. The LU site says that Leicester Square to Covent Garden is the shortest. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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writes Paul Corfield: I prefer the view from Waterloo Bridge which is one of my favourite London views. Ian Jelf: As it is mine, too. In fact, during training I was admonished for suggesting people look both ways from the bridge as we crossed it in a coach! This was the training to be a Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide? Yes, Why the admonition? Because you can't expect people to do two things at once, or at least not *look* at two things at one. You should choose one item and them if there's time the other. The "correct" technique is to describe the "TVP" (Total visual priority" first and then go onto other (perhaps equally or more interesting things. If you don't do this, then people will ignore what you say as they look at the TVP. For example, entering Parliament Square, you might as well talk about the Palace of Westminster first because if you don't, that's all people will be looking at anyway, so they'll ignore you. In the case of Waterloo Bridge, I thought that the Westminster ("Big Ben" [1]) view and the City (Saint Paul's dome) views were equally important. The correct thing to do would have been to prepare people to look one way (I do Westminster) first before you go onto the Bridge, then when that's described and you're part way over get them to look the other way. It usually works and is an important if not obvious piece of technique. [1] before anyone talks about towers clocks and bells, yes I know! -- Ian Jelf, MITG Birmingham, UK Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk |
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My first reply to mark was so filled with grammatical and typing errors
that I'm submitting it again! "Because you can't expect people to do two things at once, or at least not *look* at two things at once. You should choose one item and then, if there's time, the other. The "correct" technique is to describe the "TVP" (Total Visual Priority) first and then go onto other (perhaps equally or more interesting) things. If you don't do this, then people will ignore what you say as they look at the TVP. For example, on entering Parliament Square you might as well talk about the Palace of Westminster first because if you don't, well that's all people will be looking at anyway, so they'll ignore you. In the case of Waterloo Bridge, I thought that the Westminster ("Big Ben" [1]) view and the City (Saint Paul's dome) view were equally important. The correct thing to do would have been to prepare people to look one way (I do Westminster) first before you go onto the Bridge. Then when that's described and you're part way over, get them to look the other way. It usually works and is an important if not obvious piece of technique. [1] Before anyone talks about towers clocks and bells, yes I know! -- Ian Jelf, MITG Birmingham, UK Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk |
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Ian Jelf writes:
In fact, during training I was admonished for suggesting people look both ways from the bridge as we crossed it in a coach! Because you can't expect people to do two things at once, or at least not *look* at two things at once. You should choose one item and then, if there's time, the other. The "correct" technique is to describe the "TVP" (Total Visual Priority) first and then go onto other (perhaps equally or more interesting) things. If you don't do this, then people will ignore what you say as they look at the TVP. It appears that the actual rule is that people can't be expected to look at one thing and listen to the guide speaking about another. At this point it becomes tempting to make a crack about the sort of people who take guided tours, but that would be a cheap shot, I guess. -- Mark Brader, Toronto | "A good programmer is someone who looks both ways | before crossing a one-way street." -- Doug Linder |
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writes Ian Jelf writes: In fact, during training I was admonished for suggesting people look both ways from the bridge as we crossed it in a coach! Because you can't expect people to do two things at once, or at least not *look* at two things at once. You should choose one item and then, if there's time, the other. The "correct" technique is to describe the "TVP" (Total Visual Priority) first and then go onto other (perhaps equally or more interesting) things. If you don't do this, then people will ignore what you say as they look at the TVP. It appears that the actual rule is that people can't be expected to look at one thing and listen to the guide speaking about another. At this point it becomes tempting to make a crack about the sort of people who take guided tours, but that would be a cheap shot, I guess. Not at all! :-) In fact for my own tours I have a publicity tag-line about them being "Tours for people who don't take guides tours"! On the other hand, when I'm doing "third party" stuff (eg for tour operators), I get all sorts! For the record, I usually *hate* taking guided tours when I visit somewhere....... -- Ian Jelf, MITG Birmingham, UK Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk |
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On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 01:48:11 GMT, Richard J. wrote:
Ok then whats the shortest distance on the Underground? Leicester Square to Covent Garden, 0.16 mile (0.26 km). Enbankment to Charing Cross on the Northern Line can't be much longer either, but I don't know how far it is. According to Clive Feather's site http://www.davros.org/rail/culg/ , it's also 0.26 km to the nearest 10 metres. The LU site says that Leicester Square to Covent Garden is the shortest. IIRC, Leicester Square to Covent Garden is the shortest distance by rail, but Embankment to Charing Cross (Northern) is the shortest as the crow flies. |
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asdf wrote:
Ok then whats the shortest distance on the Underground? Leicester Square to Covent Garden, 0.16 mile (0.26 km). Enbankment to Charing Cross on the Northern Line can't be much longer either, but I don't know how far it is. According to Clive Feather's site http://www.davros.org/rail/culg/ , it's also 0.26 km to the nearest 10 metres. The LU site says that Leicester Square to Covent Garden is the shortest. IIRC, Leicester Square to Covent Garden is the shortest distance by rail, but Embankment to Charing Cross (Northern) is the shortest as the crow flies. Indeed. You can walk from the Villiers Street entrance of CX to Embankment - ie the length of Villers Street - in about 3 minutes, whereas it's a good 6 minutes from Leicester Square to Covent Garden. However, it's quite a long walk (roughly towards Trafalgar Square) from the Villers Street entrance to the Northern Line platform. Side note: there can't be too many buildings in the world that contain 3 stations, a gay disco and an accounting firm... -- John Band john at johnband dot org www.johnband.org |
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