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![]() "Jack Taylor" wrote in message ... :Jerry: wrote: Look moron, if the severity of the storm had been known of in advance (I don't think God works for any TOC...) they would have made provision... Actually the severity of the storm was fairly accurately predicted as early as last Sunday, when the BBC1 "Countryfile" long-range forecast for the week was predicting severe gale force winds for late Wednesday night into the Thursday morning rush hour (actually the arrival was a few hours delayed) with structural damage and severe disruption to transport on Thursday morning. Err, no they got it wrong, 'severe gale force winds' is not the same as 'severe storm force winds' which is what we got - only on the night before was there any mention of 'severe storm force winds' (bordering on hurricane force). |
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![]() Jonathan Morris wrote: alex_t wrote: TFL Realtime travel news page (http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/realtime/?mode=tube&time=now) was working at 18:00 with up-to-date information for Tube and DLR. They replaced usual graphics with text-only page, but it worked. I was a bit disappointed by the info on the FCC website on Friday, which had lots of individual bulletins but no simple summary saying what was happening *right now*. Having to read 4 or 5 service updates and line updates is rather conffusing at the best of times. It wasn't helped by a service bulletin that hadn't been removed from earlier in the week! Colleagues at work were looking at their respective TOC sites and most had gone for the single page, plain text, pages to help cope with demand. Even the Journey Check had simplified itself for some of the day on Thursday. Overall, I think everything was done incredibly well on Thursday, given the circumstances, but Friday was a bit more of a mess as the 'clean up' took place. Jonathan I agree. Online information was virtually non existant. I tried to travel on SWTtrains from Waterloo after 6 on the day. I had the feeling there would be no trains at Waterloo but the SWTrains website made little mention of the fact. However, they had been updating it, and made reference to the storms and the shut lines. But no mention of the fact that next to no trains were running from Waterloo that evening. Luckily I had the option of the District line and a bus to get me home. And that seemed to run okay despite the Tube.com saying there was sever disruption. I felt very sorry for the people who didn't have the option of the tube to get home that night. |
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![]() Jonathan Morris wrote: alex_t wrote: TFL Realtime travel news page (http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/realtime/?mode=tube&time=now) was working at 18:00 with up-to-date information for Tube and DLR. They replaced usual graphics with text-only page, but it worked. I was a bit disappointed by the info on the FCC website on Friday, which had lots of individual bulletins but no simple summary saying what was happening *right now*. Having to read 4 or 5 service updates and line updates is rather conffusing at the best of times. It wasn't helped by a service bulletin that hadn't been removed from earlier in the week! Colleagues at work were looking at their respective TOC sites and most had gone for the single page, plain text, pages to help cope with demand. Even the Journey Check had simplified itself for some of the day on Thursday. Overall, I think everything was done incredibly well on Thursday, given the circumstances, but Friday was a bit more of a mess as the 'clean up' took place. Jonathan I agree. Online information was virtually non existant. I tried to travel on SWTtrains from Waterloo after 6 on the day. I had the feeling there would be no trains at Waterloo but the SWTrains website made little mention of the fact. However, they had been updating it, and made reference to the storms and the shut lines. But no mention of the fact that next to no trains were running from Waterloo that evening. Luckily I had the option of the District line and a bus to get me home. And that seemed to run okay despite the Tube.com saying there was sever disruption. I felt very sorry for the people who didn't have the option of the tube to get home that night. |
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![]() "BH Williams" wrote in message ... "Joyce Whitchurch" wrote in message ... Neil Spellings wrote: I'd like to congratulate National Rail, Transport for London, Southern Trains and the BBC for all failing to provide any kind of up-to-date travel information on station closures during the storms on Thursday. Well I can't comment on TfL or Southern, but I thought NRES and the BBC did a pretty good job on Thursday. I should think both were getting a hundred times the normal number of hits, probably even more, and the NRES system only fell over for about an hour or so. (The "Current Service Alterations" page kept going but "Live Arrivals and Departures" froze for a while.) And, as with any operating difficulty on the railway, the problem is more about getting the information from the people on the ground than disseminating it to the passengers. It's no use asking somebody like Ross how long his train is going to be delayed while he's still underneath it with his Junior Hacksaw. -- Joyce Whitchurch, Stalybridge, UK ================================= To which he might have replied, as a driver of my acquaintance did 'A F****** sight quicker if I didn't have to keep answering the radio' Brian Done something similar myself. Major Aircon failure in a data centre and some senior idiot ringing 5 minutes - told him that we'd get sorted a lot quicker if he got off the phone and also that if he didn't stop his onsite muppet poking around inside aircon units he would be held responsible for a few million pounds worth of Disaster Recovery charges ( he also thought two comms cables into one cabinet was adequate DR contingency........ A bit like the government organisation that invoked DR after their backup generators ran out of diesel - and then discovered that their plan didn't work!). G |
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:Jerry: wrote:
Err, no they got it wrong, 'severe gale force winds' is not the same as 'severe storm force winds' which is what we got - only on the night before was there any mention of 'severe storm force winds' (bordering on hurricane force). Did you see the "Countryfile" forecast? Do you know that they got it wrong? Perhaps I got it wrong? Unlike yourself, I'm not perfect enough to remember the *exact* wording from a week ago. They did (whatever term they used) forecast structural damage and severe disruption to transport last Sunday - which *IS* what we got. |
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:Jerry: wrote:
snip Its an entirely different case to the whole demand growing over time beyond what the infrastructure can cope with. Look moron, if the severity of the storm had been known of in advance (I don't think God works for any TOC...) they would have made provision... Start using your remaining brain cell rather than showing the world how many dead one you have. Thanks so much for the mindful contribution to the discussion. Are you connected to Endemol ? In comparison, you come a close second to Jade Goody in not using your brain. Is that even a sentence? |
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On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 21:19:13 GMT someone who may be "Jack Taylor"
wrote this:- Did you see the "Countryfile" forecast? Do you know that they got it wrong? Perhaps I got it wrong? Unlike yourself, I'm not perfect enough to remember the *exact* wording from a week ago. They did (whatever term they used) forecast structural damage and severe disruption to transport last Sunday - which *IS* what we got. Remember that, like many other organisations, the railways pay for far more detailed weather forecasts than are given on the television. These are usually very accurate and the railways seem to have done what was possible to deal with the weather. I'm sure nearly everyone would have liked more to be possible, but there are limits to the money and staff that are available. I also doubt if anyone would like to go back to the era of several staff deaths keeping trains running at normal speeds in bad weather. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54 |
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![]() David Hansen wrote: On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 21:19:13 GMT someone who may be "Jack Taylor" wrote this:- Did you see the "Countryfile" forecast? Do you know that they got it wrong? Perhaps I got it wrong? Unlike yourself, I'm not perfect enough to remember the *exact* wording from a week ago. They did (whatever term they used) forecast structural damage and severe disruption to transport last Sunday - which *IS* what we got. Remember that, like many other organisations, the railways pay for far more detailed weather forecasts than are given on the television. These are usually very accurate and the railways seem to have done what was possible to deal with the weather. I'm sure nearly everyone would have liked more to be possible, but there are limits to the money and staff that are available. I also doubt if anyone would like to go back to the era of several staff deaths keeping trains running at normal speeds in bad weather. Is is just me, or does the NRES Web keep crashing Internet Explorer as soon as one tries to use it? I have tried to enquire about the same journey about ten times, and rebooted and tried again, and IE crashes every time. |
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