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Dubba January 31st 07 11:32 AM

Train firms to roll out Oyster PAYG
 


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6316245.stm

Train operators have agreed to introduce Oyster cards in London after
accepting a £20m grant from the mayor.

Ten firms operating surface rail services into London will share the
subsidy to install pay-as-you-go Oyster reading equipment.

The electronic cards are used across the city on the Tube, buses,
trams and Docklands Light Railway network.

New equipment will have to be fitted in about 260 London stations
which do not have fully automatic gates.


George Muir, of the Association of Train Operating Companies, said
details of the proposal will need to be ironed out.

"All London train operators will be responding positively to Transport
for London's proposal for Oyster pay-as-you-go," he said.

Mr Muir said because further discussion is needed to reach agreement
on the proper level of funding for different parts of the network.

Train operators are also calling for progress in dual-reading gates at
London's stations so they accept ITSO electronic cards.

The ITSO card, similar to the Oyster card, will be the standard smart
card for railway passengers outside London.

---------

"The ITSO card will be the standard smart card for railway passengers
outside London" - when was that decided then? Must've past me by!

Dubba (long time lurker and occasional poster)


[email protected] January 31st 07 12:19 PM

Train firms to roll out Oyster PAYG
 
On 31 Jan, 12:32, "Dubba" wrote:
"All London train operators will be responding positively to Transport
for London's proposal for Oyster pay-as-you-go," he said.


I think this statement needed to be more wishy-washy, perhaps with
more buzzwords that at first glance look like commitment but actually
aren't. Similarly, they could fail to mention any timescale for
implementation, thereby making any action (or lack of action) they
take in the future compatible with the statement made today.

(actually it looks like a big, erm, "positive" step towards resolving
this dispute)

U


sweek January 31st 07 10:11 PM

Train firms to roll out Oyster PAYG
 
Nice to see this going forward and forward, but I'd also like to see a
timetable for it.


Arthur Figgis February 1st 07 06:42 AM

Train firms to roll out Oyster PAYG
 
Dubba wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6316245.stm

Train operators have agreed to introduce Oyster cards in London after
accepting a £20m grant from the mayor.

Ten firms operating surface rail services into London will share the
subsidy to install pay-as-you-go Oyster reading equipment.

The electronic cards are used across the city on the Tube, buses,
trams and Docklands Light Railway network.

New equipment will have to be fitted in about 260 London stations
which do not have fully automatic gates.


George Muir, of the Association of Train Operating Companies, said
details of the proposal will need to be ironed out.

"All London train operators will be responding positively to Transport
for London's proposal for Oyster pay-as-you-go," he said.

Mr Muir said because further discussion is needed to reach agreement
on the proper level of funding for different parts of the network.

Train operators are also calling for progress in dual-reading gates at
London's stations so they accept ITSO electronic cards.

The ITSO card, similar to the Oyster card, will be the standard smart
card for railway passengers outside London.

---------

"The ITSO card will be the standard smart card for railway passengers
outside London" - when was that decided then? Must've past me by!


"The ITSO Organisation was founded in 1998 as a result of discussions
between various UK Passenger Transport Authorities concerning the lack
of suitable standards for inter-operable smartcard ticketing. These
discussions grew to include other authorities, transport operators and
Government."
http://www.itso.org.uk/default.asp?ContentID=45

"Scotland, Cheshire, Merseytravel, Wales (2), Nowcard, Yorcard, Greater
Manchester PTE, Southampton City and Nottinghamshire CC" have ITSO schemes.
http://www.itso.org.uk/default.asp?ContentID=57

Arguments about open vs proprietary technology (or anything beyond the
M25!) aren't of much interest to the media, so ITSO hasn't got much
coverage. Funnily enough, TOCs haven't simply set out to annoy the Mayor
- there is more to it than that.

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

TKD February 1st 07 06:44 AM

Train firms to roll out Oyster PAYG
 
Nice to see this going forward and forward, but I'd also like to see a
timetable for it.


You can piece some of the implementation timetable together from press
releases by c2c, one, Silverlink and Chiltern.

It will be a confusing time for users (and probably staff) as things are
rolled out piecemeal.




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