Does anyone how many buses operate on behalf of London Buses (or know
how I can find out)? And how many of these are double deckers, single
deckers and articulated buses respectively?

Thanks,
Dominic

I'm sure someone will come along with a better answer, but have you
tried writing to TfL to ask them? Even quote the freedom of
information act... if its relevant to this, don't ask me i just work
here.

Although in the current political climate they may be suspicious as to
why you would wanna know such things...

wrote:
Does anyone how many buses operate on behalf of London Buses (or know
how I can find out)? And how many of these are double deckers, single
deckers and articulated buses respectively?

If you mean the number of vehicles, AIUI it's approximately 8000 -
unfortunately I don't know any details beyond that.

--
Dave Arquati
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 22:54:21 +0000, Dave A wrote:

wrote:
Does anyone how many buses operate on behalf of London Buses (or know
how I can find out)? And how many of these are double deckers, single
deckers and articulated buses respectively?

If you mean the number of vehicles, AIUI it's approximately 8000 -
unfortunately I don't know any details beyond that.

Just to add to Dave's reply.

As at 27/1/07 there were 7037 buses required to run the scheduled TfL
services on Mondays to Fridays when the schools are open. Note that this
figure does NOT include any spare buses that the operating companies own
to cover for repairs, damage, training or just to provide flexibility
for swapping buses over during the day. Typically there is a 13-15%
margin for spare buses so the 8,000 value is about spot on.

The 7037 figure is the highest total for London since 1958 which was the
previous peak value. It is also worth noting that the total has already
increased further and will continue to do so as further route and
frequency improvements are introduced.

A quick check in my database shows 346 bendy buses run in service
Mondays to Fridays.

There are 10 Routemasters on the Heritage Routes daily.

I'm afraid I don't have a quick way of working out the split into single
or double deckers - sorry.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

In message . com, Cyril
Sneer writes
I'm sure someone will come along with a better answer, but have you
tried writing to TfL to ask them? Even quote the freedom of
information act... if its relevant to this, don't ask me i just work
here.

That feels to me to be a terribly lazy method (and selfish! - think of
the work that would generate for a TfL employee).

Just doing a google will bring up the information.

Oooh. Look. I managed to coordinate my fingers and typed "London Buses"
in.

The third/fourth link down says
London Bus Routes www.londonbusroutes.net
[leading to "Operational Details" www.londonbusroutes.net/details.htm]
Unofficial site includes details of routes, operators and garages,
service changes and photos.
which gives you as much info as you could probably want. Ok I've been
reading this group too long; I'm sure there's even more information you
could want



The other advantage of the method above is you get to stumble across
other sites you didn't know existed

--
Paul G
Typing from Barking

On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 23:45:36 +0000, Paul Corfield
wrote:

On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 22:54:21 +0000, Dave A wrote:

wrote:
Does anyone how many buses operate on behalf of London Buses (or know
how I can find out)? And how many of these are double deckers, single
deckers and articulated buses respectively?

If you mean the number of vehicles, AIUI it's approximately 8000 -
unfortunately I don't know any details beyond that.

Just to add to Dave's reply.

As at 27/1/07 there were 7037 buses required to run the scheduled TfL
services on Mondays to Fridays when the schools are open. Note that this
figure does NOT include any spare buses that the operating companies own
to cover for repairs, damage, training or just to provide flexibility
for swapping buses over during the day. Typically there is a 13-15%
margin for spare buses so the 8,000 value is about spot on.

The 7037 figure is the highest total for London since 1958 which was the
previous peak value. It is also worth noting that the total has already
increased further and will continue to do so as further route and
frequency improvements are introduced.

Did the 1958 figure include the Country area, do you know?

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 12:25:02 +0000, Ken Wheatley
wrote:

On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 23:45:36 +0000, Paul Corfield
wrote:

The 7037 figure is the highest total for London since 1958 which was the
previous peak value. It is also worth noting that the total has already
increased further and will continue to do so as further route and
frequency improvements are introduced.

Did the 1958 figure include the Country area, do you know?

I've just checked the relevant LOTS [1] supplement. The figures was for
Central Buses and Trolleybuses which is just about the same network area
as TfL today barring a few differences in cross boundary provision.

[1] www.lots.org.uk
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

In article ,
(Paul Corfield) wrote:

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 12:25:02 +0000, Ken Wheatley
wrote:

On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 23:45:36 +0000, Paul Corfield
wrote:

The 7037 figure is the highest total for London since 1958 which
was the previous peak value. It is also worth noting that the total
has already increased further and will continue to do so as further
route and frequency improvements are introduced.

Did the 1958 figure include the Country area, do you know?

I've just checked the relevant LOTS [1] supplement. The figures was
for Central Buses and Trolleybuses which is just about the same network

area as TfL today barring a few differences in cross boundary
provision.

[1] www.lots.org.uk

Up to a point. Some central routes went a long way outside London in them
days, e.g. the long-gone route 14 Sunday services to Dorking.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On 9 Feb, 23:45, Paul Corfield wrote:
As at 27/1/07 there were 7037 buses required to run the scheduled TfL
services on Mondays to Fridays when the schools are open. Note that this
figure does NOT include any spare buses that the operating companies own
to cover for repairs, damage, training or just to provide flexibility
for swapping buses over during the day. Typically there is a 13-15%
margin for spare buses so the 8,000 value is about spot on.

Thanks, Dave & Paul C. The 13-15% to get from Peak Vehicle Requirement
to actual number of buses is very useful, because it's the bus garages
I'm interested in, and I wanted to find out how many buses they are
housing. Thanks very much for your efforts.

No thanks to Paul G for his rudeness. I'm surprised his Googling
skills did not reveal to him that I've previously recommended
www.londonbusroutes.net/details myself, in a post called "Bus route
statistics" on 17th January 2005. Hey, Paul G, why don't you Google
this:
define: "humble pie"

Dominic

In message .com,
writes
On 9 Feb, 23:45, Paul Corfield wrote:
As at 27/1/07 there were 7037 buses required to run the scheduled TfL
services on Mondays to Fridays when the schools are open. Note that this
figure does NOT include any spare buses that the operating companies own
to cover for repairs, damage, training or just to provide flexibility
for swapping buses over during the day. Typically there is a 13-15%
margin for spare buses so the 8,000 value is about spot on.

Thanks, Dave & Paul C. The 13-15% to get from Peak Vehicle Requirement
to actual number of buses is very useful, because it's the bus garages
I'm interested in, and I wanted to find out how many buses they are
housing. Thanks very much for your efforts.

No thanks to Paul G for his rudeness. I'm surprised his Googling
skills did not reveal to him that I've previously recommended
www.londonbusroutes.net/details myself, in a post called "Bus route
statistics" on 17th January 2005. Hey, Paul G, why don't you Google
this:
define: "humble pie"

Erm. Let's think (or not, I let the choice be yours). You asked a
question, I gave you an answer. You appear to have got the information
you wanted, by chance (due to the ever helpful and knowledgeable people
on this newsgroup), but if you had made your information request clearer
perhaps I wouldn't have posted what I did? Sure, sometimes I post short
retorts, especially when people ask lazy questions; it's about
considering other people's time too - not just your own. Dare I suggest
you do a google for a definition of humble pie as I can't see any
definition that fits? Preferably (from my perspective) you ought to do
course on how to ask a meaningful question?

I notice you didn't follow up on the suggestion that someone made of
doing a Freedom of Information request, which was the main cause of my
anger at keyboard. Lazy questioners I can deal with (I ignore them).
People who create work for others because they haven't done it
themselves annoy me intensely. Luckily the freedom of information act
recognises it and requests can be denied for various reasons, including
if the information is already available in the public domain.

I did notice that the responder said "if nothing else better comes
along", that's why my original post wasn't personal and was in the third
person. If you took it to mean yourself I can only suggest trying to
avoid the pitfalls I've outlined above and making reference to any
research you have done to avoid misunderstandings and potentially
wasting other people's time (like my own!).