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Hey people,
I went out last weekend to photograph the 83ts which are near Liverpool St being used by an artist I believe, photos found he http://www.tonysrailphotos.fotopic.net/ What i was wondering is what has happened to the other stock that was dumped around the network? Can anyone update on:- South Harrow; any 83ts left in there or has it all now finally gone? MOD Pigs Bay: I believe was home to some Mk 1 72ts, gone or just forgotten in there? Acton Works: 1 train of Mk 1 72ts, gone? Uxbridge Sidings; I know some of them are now on the studio roof near Liverpool St and one was gutted by fire, are there any left there? Neasden; one time home to 83ts, heard they had left for scrap? Cockfosters; couple of 83ts, probably welded themselves to the rails by now! Someones back garden (!); I believe there as a 59ts carriage bought by someone for use in their garden, I presume he still has it? Acton; a converted 62ts for use on Sandite workings, gone? Mangapps Farm, Essex: 59ts Heritage train Ongar, 62ts believed to be burnt by vandals? Lillie Bridge and London Road Depots; Mk 1 72ts If anyone can satisfy my curiosity by updating the above I will be very grateful! If anyone knows where there is preserved vintage tube stock i would also be interested to know! |
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On 16 Feb 2007 16:06:01 -0800, "Standing at HN28 signal"
wrote: Hey people, I went out last weekend to photograph the 83ts which are near Liverpool St being used by an artist I believe, photos found he http://www.tonysrailphotos.fotopic.net/ What i was wondering is what has happened to the other stock that was dumped around the network? Can anyone update on:- South Harrow; any 83ts left in there or has it all now finally gone? MOD Pigs Bay: I believe was home to some Mk 1 72ts, gone or just forgotten in there? Acton Works: 1 train of Mk 1 72ts, gone? Uxbridge Sidings; I know some of them are now on the studio roof near Liverpool St and one was gutted by fire, are there any left there? Neasden; one time home to 83ts, heard they had left for scrap? Cockfosters; couple of 83ts, probably welded themselves to the rails by now! Someones back garden (!); I believe there as a 59ts carriage bought by someone for use in their garden, I presume he still has it? Acton; a converted 62ts for use on Sandite workings, gone? Mangapps Farm, Essex: 59ts Heritage train Ongar, 62ts believed to be burnt by vandals? Lillie Bridge and London Road Depots; Mk 1 72ts If anyone can satisfy my curiosity by updating the above I will be very grateful! If anyone knows where there is preserved vintage tube stock i would also be interested to know! I understand that the Uxbridge stock has all gone - some of it to Shoreditch. My department was involved in trying to get it moved! Not sure about the exact status of South Harrow but the intention is certainly that it will go too. Cockfosters has definitely gone as again we were involved in getting that moved following a load of complaints. Don't know about the other items on your list. -- Paul C Admits to working for London Underground! |
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On Feb 17, 12:19 am, Paul Corfield wrote:
On 16 Feb 2007 16:06:01 -0800, "Standing at HN28 signal" wrote: Hey people, I went out last weekend to photograph the 83ts which are near Liverpool St being used by an artist I believe, photos found he http://www.tonysrailphotos.fotopic.net/ What i was wondering is what has happened to the other stock that was dumped around the network? Can anyone update on:- South Harrow; any 83ts left in there or has it all now finally gone? MOD Pigs Bay: I believe was home to some Mk 1 72ts, gone or just forgotten in there? Acton Works: 1 train of Mk 1 72ts, gone? Uxbridge Sidings; I know some of them are now on the studio roof near Liverpool St and one was gutted by fire, are there any left there? Neasden; one time home to 83ts, heard they had left for scrap? Cockfosters; couple of 83ts, probably welded themselves to the rails by now! Someones back garden (!); I believe there as a 59ts carriage bought by someone for use in their garden, I presume he still has it? Acton; a converted 62ts for use on Sandite workings, gone? Mangapps Farm, Essex: 59ts Heritage train Ongar, 62ts believed to be burnt by vandals? Lillie Bridge and London Road Depots; Mk 1 72ts If anyone can satisfy my curiosity by updating the above I will be very grateful! If anyone knows where there is preserved vintage tube stock i would also be interested to know! I understand that the Uxbridge stock has all gone - some of it to Shoreditch. My department was involved in trying to get it moved! Why shorditch? What will they do with it there, is it just going to me marooned forever once that section of the line is lifted? Cockfosters has definitely gone as again we were involved in getting that moved following a load of complaints. Could they be moved or did they have to be cut up on site? B2003 |
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On 17 Feb 2007 14:34:46 -0800, "Boltar" wrote:
On Feb 17, 12:19 am, Paul Corfield wrote: On 16 Feb 2007 16:06:01 -0800, "Standing at HN28 signal" wrote: Hey people, If anyone can satisfy my curiosity by updating the above I will be very grateful! If anyone knows where there is preserved vintage tube stock i would also be interested to know! I understand that the Uxbridge stock has all gone - some of it to Shoreditch. My department was involved in trying to get it moved! Why shorditch? What will they do with it there, is it just going to me marooned forever once that section of the line is lifted? They are to be converted into artists studios - don't ask. I have a computer mock up "sketch" in an E Mail at work that shows the end result. I'd rather forget about them. Cockfosters has definitely gone as again we were involved in getting that moved following a load of complaints. Could they be moved or did they have to be cut up on site? I believe they were moved but I understand why you ask - they'd been sat there for a hell of a long time. -- Paul C Admits to working for London Underground! |
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On 17 Feb, 22:45, Paul Corfield wrote:
On 17 Feb 2007 14:34:46 -0800, "Boltar" wrote: Why shorditch? What will they do with it there, is it just going to me marooned forever once that section of the line is lifted? They are to be converted into artists studios - don't ask. I have a computer mock up "sketch" in an E Mail at work that shows the end result. I'd rather forget about them. They are located near to Shoreditch, not actually the station. They are suspended on a roof, photos can be seen he http://www.tonysrailphotos.fotopic.net/c1206004.html Why do you want to forget about 'em? Didn't like 83ts? |
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On Feb 18, 9:00 am, "Standing at HN28 signal"
wrote: On 17 Feb, 22:45, Paul Corfield wrote: On 17 Feb 2007 14:34:46 -0800, "Boltar" wrote: Why shorditch? What will they do with it there, is it just going to me marooned forever once that section of the line is lifted? They are to be converted into artists studios - don't ask. I have a computer mock up "sketch" in an E Mail at work that shows the end result. I'd rather forget about them. They are located near to Shoreditch, not actually the station. They are suspended on a roof, photos can be seen hehttp://www.tonysrailphotos.fotopic.net/c1206004.html Eyesore is a word that springs to mind. Wonder if they're going to clean that graffiti off or just leave it there because its a "valid artistic expression of street culture amongst contemporary youth" or some such b0llocks? Even if they do clean it off I suspect it will be a temptation too good to miss for the little oiks with their spray cans. B2003 |
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On 19 Feb, 12:52, "Boltar" wrote:
On Feb 18, 9:00 am, "Standing at HN28 signal" wrote: On 17 Feb, 22:45, Paul Corfield wrote: On 17 Feb 2007 14:34:46 -0800, "Boltar" wrote: Why shorditch? What will they do with it there, is it just going to me marooned forever once that section of the line is lifted? They are to be converted into artists studios - don't ask. I have a computer mock up "sketch" in an E Mail at work that shows the end result. I'd rather forget about them. They are located near to Shoreditch, not actually the station. They are suspended on a roof, photos can be seen hehttp://www.tonysrailphotos.fotopic.net/c1206004.html Eyesore is a word that springs to mind. Wonder if they're going to clean that graffiti off or just leave it there because its a "valid artistic expression of street culture amongst contemporary youth" or some such b0llocks? Even if they do clean it off I suspect it will be a temptation too good to miss for the little oiks with their spray cans. I believe the graffiti is to be cleaned off and the trains will be used to exhibit art, of what kind I do not know! Don't think they are easily accessible without accessing the nearby premises. |
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On Feb 19, 9:08 pm, "Standing at HN28 signal"
wrote: I believe the graffiti is to be cleaned off and the trains will be used to exhibit art, of what kind I do not know! Don't think they are easily accessible without accessing the nearby premises. Given some of the how-the-hell-did-they-get-there type places we've all seen graffiti I suspect it won't be too much of a challenge for them :) B2003 |
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Boltar wrote:
On Feb 19, 9:08 pm, "Standing at HN28 signal" wrote: I believe the graffiti is to be cleaned off and the trains will be used to exhibit art, of what kind I do not know! Don't think they are easily accessible without accessing the nearby premises. Given some of the how-the-hell-did-they-get-there type places we've all seen graffiti I suspect it won't be too much of a challenge for them :) Well, it was easy enough the first time. Those cars were newly painted when they were placed on the viaduct, and the graffiti appeared very soon afterwards. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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In message , Richard J.
writes Given some of the how-the-hell-did-they-get-there type places we've all seen graffiti I suspect it won't be too much of a challenge for them :) Well, it was easy enough the first time. Those cars were newly painted when they were placed on the viaduct, and the graffiti appeared very soon afterwards. From the pictures I saw, they were very much in the same condition they left Uxbridge sidings in - a bit grimy but bare metal and mostly no graffiti, although there was a little. -- Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building. You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK (please use the reply to address for email) |
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Steve Fitzgerald wrote:
In message , Richard J. writes Given some of the how-the-hell-did-they-get-there type places we've all seen graffiti I suspect it won't be too much of a challenge for them :) Well, it was easy enough the first time. Those cars were newly painted when they were placed on the viaduct, and the graffiti appeared very soon afterwards. From the pictures I saw, they were very much in the same condition they left Uxbridge sidings in - a bit grimy but bare metal and mostly no graffiti, although there was a little. Yes, "newly painted" was wrong, I now realise. The comparison that I remembered was of http://tinyurl.com/38mycq taken on 20 August 2006, with no graffiti visible, and http://www.flickr.com/photos/jono01/240863962/ taken on 10 September 2006. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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I hadn't been really following the thread, but what are those cars doing
there? Actually, I had heard that they are 86ts, and that they are London Underground's little secret as they ran on the Jubilee line only for about a year, but they really didn't work out. As for the graffiti, is this rather recent? I ask, because I first passed by them in a car last October, but I don't recall seeing any graffiti at that time. Incidentally, one of the cab doors was open. I only caught a glimpse, but the colour of it and the fuse box array made me think that the cabs on those trains was very similar to what you would see on D stock trains. "Richard J." wrote in message k... Steve Fitzgerald wrote: In message , Richard J. writes Given some of the how-the-hell-did-they-get-there type places we've all seen graffiti I suspect it won't be too much of a challenge for them :) Well, it was easy enough the first time. Those cars were newly painted when they were placed on the viaduct, and the graffiti appeared very soon afterwards. From the pictures I saw, they were very much in the same condition they left Uxbridge sidings in - a bit grimy but bare metal and mostly no graffiti, although there was a little. Yes, "newly painted" was wrong, I now realise. The comparison that I remembered was of http://tinyurl.com/38mycq taken on 20 August 2006, with no graffiti visible, and http://www.flickr.com/photos/jono01/240863962/ taken on 10 September 2006. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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In message ,
Colin Rosenstiel writes In article , () wrote: Incidentally, one of the cab doors was open. I only caught a glimpse, but the colour of it and the fuse box array made me think that the cabs on those trains was very similar to what you would see on D stock trains. I thought the 83TS was designed for a lot of common parts with D stock, including traction motors and wheels. That would explain why there are no bogies on these cars. Sorry, which cars? All the ones I've noticed still had bogies attached to them - that's mainly how they manage to stay on the rails! I watched the ones being craned out of Uxbridge and Cockfosters and they still certainly appeared to have bogies attached at that time. Although I can't comment on them being removed for further use later, I wouldn't have thought they'd be much use after 10 years or so sat under a derelict train. -- Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building. You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK (please use the reply to address for email) |
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In article , ] (Steve
Fitzgerald) wrote: In message , Colin Rosenstiel writes In article , () wrote: Incidentally, one of the cab doors was open. I only caught a glimpse, but the colour of it and the fuse box array made me think that the cabs on those trains was very similar to what you would see on D stock trains. I thought the 83TS was designed for a lot of common parts with D stock, including traction motors and wheels. That would explain why there are no bogies on these cars. Sorry, which cars? The ones stuck on top of a viaduct at Shoreditch. All the ones I've noticed still had bogies attached to them - that's mainly how they manage to stay on the rails! I watched the ones being craned out of Uxbridge and Cockfosters and they still certainly appeared to have bogies attached at that time. Although I can't comment on them being removed for further use later, I wouldn't have thought they'd be much use after 10 years or so sat under a derelict train. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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