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alex_t March 9th 07 05:56 PM

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I just saw fox running near the rails at the Bow Church DLR station :-
D
It ran through the length of the platform, then crossed the rails and
went to the garden nearby.


March 9th 07 07:22 PM

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"alex_t" wrote in message
oups.com...
I just saw fox running near the rails at the Bow Church DLR station :-
D
It ran through the length of the platform, then crossed the rails and
went to the garden nearby.


Did he remember to touch in and touch out to avoid paying the maximum fair?



March 9th 07 07:24 PM

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wrote in message
...

"alex_t" wrote in message
oups.com...
I just saw fox running near the rails at the Bow Church DLR station :-
D
It ran through the length of the platform, then crossed the rails and
went to the garden nearby.


Did he remember to touch in and touch out to avoid paying the maximum
fair?


Fare even.



alex_t March 9th 07 07:35 PM

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Did he remember to touch in and touch out to avoid paying the maximum fair?


:-D
LOL, doubt it!


Ian Jelf March 9th 07 08:02 PM

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In message ,
writes

"alex_t" wrote in message
roups.com...
I just saw fox running near the rails at the Bow Church DLR station :-
D
It ran through the length of the platform, then crossed the rails and
went to the garden nearby.


Did he remember to touch in and touch out to avoid paying the maximum fair?


"Coffee spattered on keyboard and monitor" moment! :-))
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

MIG March 10th 07 06:59 AM

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On Mar 9, 6:56 pm, "alex_t" wrote:
I just saw fox running near the rails at the Bow Church DLR station :-
D
It ran through the length of the platform, then crossed the rails and
went to the garden nearby.



I was a bit more surprised when I saw a fox come down from the
footbridge and wander across platform 5/6 at London Bridge, given that
the whole station is on a viaduct.


March 11th 07 06:42 PM

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"alex_t" wrote in message
oups.com...

Did he remember to touch in and touch out to avoid paying the maximum
fair?


:-D
LOL, doubt it!


He will be charged the maximum fare then and will receive a letter adivising
him.



alex_t March 12th 07 08:16 AM

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I was a bit more surprised when I saw a fox come down from the
footbridge and wander across platform 5/6 at London Bridge, given that
the whole station is on a viaduct.


Well, until then I haven't see any fox in London at all. At least now
I understand that those fox-like "dogs" I see sometimes are actually
foxes! (which was quite unbelievable for a foreigner)


martyn dawe March 12th 07 09:36 AM

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On 9 Mar 2007 23:59:18 -0800, "MIG"
wrote:

On Mar 9, 6:56 pm, "alex_t" wrote:
I just saw fox running near the rails at the Bow Church DLR station :-
D
It ran through the length of the platform, then crossed the rails and
went to the garden nearby.



I was a bit more surprised when I saw a fox come down from the
footbridge and wander across platform 5/6 at London Bridge, given that
the whole station is on a viaduct.



there are polenty of fox's in the city , I saw one in my road eating
the remains of someone's rejected takeaway.

MIG March 12th 07 10:53 AM

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On Mar 12, 10:36 am, Martyn Dawe wrote:
On 9 Mar 2007 23:59:18 -0800, "MIG"
wrote:

On Mar 9, 6:56 pm, "alex_t" wrote:
I just saw fox running near the rails at the Bow Church DLR station :-
D
It ran through the length of the platform, then crossed the rails and
went to the garden nearby.


I was a bit more surprised when I saw a fox come down from the
footbridge and wander across platform 5/6 at London Bridge, given that
the whole station is on a viaduct.


there are polenty of fox's in the city , I saw one in my road eating
the remains of someone's rejected takeaway.



That's what I expect it was after at London Bridge, but there's
usually some kind of undisturbed land nearby, eg railway embankment or
abandoned garden. I am not sure where there is any such land at
London Bridge station.


Jim Brittin March 12th 07 01:05 PM

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In article . com,
says...
On Mar 12, 10:36 am, Martyn Dawe wrote:
On 9 Mar 2007 23:59:18 -0800, "MIG"
wrote:

On Mar 9, 6:56 pm, "alex_t" wrote:
I just saw fox running near the rails at the Bow Church DLR station :-
D
It ran through the length of the platform, then crossed the rails and
went to the garden nearby.


I was a bit more surprised when I saw a fox come down from the
footbridge and wander across platform 5/6 at London Bridge, given that
the whole station is on a viaduct.


there are polenty of fox's in the city , I saw one in my road eating
the remains of someone's rejected takeaway.



That's what I expect it was after at London Bridge, but there's
usually some kind of undisturbed land nearby, eg railway embankment or
abandoned garden. I am not sure where there is any such land at
London Bridge station.



Travelling on Thameslink between Blackfriars and London Bridge one sees
an emptyish derelict-looking area to the left of the train. In the
daytime I have seen foxes on two or three occasions there, sometimes
moving, sometimes asleep. Cannot recall what this area actually is but
the trains pass it very slowly shortly before arrival.



TimB March 12th 07 01:11 PM

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On Mar 9, 8:24 pm, wrote:
Did he remember to touch in and touch out to avoid paying the maximum
fair?


Fare even.


Fur, shurely.


Larry Lard March 12th 07 03:04 PM

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Martyn Dawe wrote:
On 9 Mar 2007 23:59:18 -0800, "MIG"
wrote:

On Mar 9, 6:56 pm, "alex_t" wrote:
I just saw fox running near the rails at the Bow Church DLR station :-
D
It ran through the length of the platform, then crossed the rails and
went to the garden nearby.


I was a bit more surprised when I saw a fox come down from the
footbridge and wander across platform 5/6 at London Bridge, given that
the whole station is on a viaduct.



there are polenty of fox's in the city , I saw one in my road eating
the remains of someone's rejected takeaway.


Simon Jenkins had a piece in Friday's Guardian on the rise of the urban
fox - apparently, because shooting is so much more efficient for fox
extermination than hunting was, countryside ain't safe for foxes any more!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,2030008,00.html


--
Larry Lard

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Helen Deborah Vecht March 12th 07 03:31 PM

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Martyn Dawe typed


On 9 Mar 2007 23:59:18 -0800, "MIG"
wrote:


On Mar 9, 6:56 pm, "alex_t" wrote:
I just saw fox running near the rails at the Bow Church DLR station :-
D
It ran through the length of the platform, then crossed the rails and
went to the garden nearby.



I was a bit more surprised when I saw a fox come down from the
footbridge and wander across platform 5/6 at London Bridge, given that
the whole station is on a viaduct.



there are polenty of fox's in the city , I saw one in my road eating
the remains of someone's rejected takeaway.


I am sure that this is part of the foxes' staple diet round here, where
they are prevalent and breed at the end of the garden. I have watched a
family of foxes play for an hour on my lawn, seen a fox in Gloucester
Square in Central London and met a local lady who kept a pet fox on a
lead.

Discarded take-away meals are beloved by pigeons, squirrels and foxes
and the HUGE local pigeons provide a good meal for a fox...

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

MIG March 12th 07 04:07 PM

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On Mar 12, 4:04 pm, Larry Lard wrote:
Martyn Dawe wrote:
On 9 Mar 2007 23:59:18 -0800, "MIG"
wrote:


On Mar 9, 6:56 pm, "alex_t" wrote:
I just saw fox running near the rails at the Bow Church DLR station :-
D
It ran through the length of the platform, then crossed the rails and
went to the garden nearby.


I was a bit more surprised when I saw a fox come down from the
footbridge and wander across platform 5/6 at London Bridge, given that
the whole station is on a viaduct.


there are polenty of fox's in the city , I saw one in my road eating
the remains of someone's rejected takeaway.


Simon Jenkins had a piece in Friday's Guardian on the rise of the urban
fox - apparently, because shooting is so much more efficient for fox
extermination than hunting was, countryside ain't safe for foxes any more!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,2030008,00.html



Hunting never had anything to do with extermination, did it? I
thought it was about getting your kicks from torturing animals to
death. For that, the population must not be kept down or it spoils
the fun.


Paul Corfield March 12th 07 05:25 PM

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On 12 Mar 2007 02:16:19 -0700, "alex_t"
wrote:


I was a bit more surprised when I saw a fox come down from the
footbridge and wander across platform 5/6 at London Bridge, given that
the whole station is on a viaduct.


Well, until then I haven't see any fox in London at all. At least now
I understand that those fox-like "dogs" I see sometimes are actually
foxes! (which was quite unbelievable for a foreigner)


I have seen 4 in my garden - mum, dad and 2 juniors. I often hear the
high pitched screams of foxes during the night.

I have also almost been "foxbushed" on the way to the station in the
dark when 4 or 5 foxes came running up the road behind me to try to
reach their lair. They typically don't like human contact and I stopped
and we ended up in a stand off as I was inadvertently right on their
route into their "home" via a car park behind a church. They ran round
me and disappeared. Not really what you expect in Walthamstow!

--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

Martin Smith March 12th 07 08:12 PM

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On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:52:53 +0000,
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:25:39 +0000, Paul Corfield
wrote:


I have also almost been "foxbushed" on the way to the station in the
dark when 4 or 5 foxes came running up the road behind me to try to
reach their lair. They typically don't like human contact and I stopped
and we ended up in a stand off as I was inadvertently right on their
route into their "home" via a car park behind a church. They ran round
me and disappeared. Not really what you expect in Walthamstow!


Well I do think you people in and around London are very lucky I love
foxes and even living next door practically to open fields and woods
we never see any around these parts , I suspect the *******s in the
red jackets with their silly hats and horns with their poxy hounds
have killed them all off around here .


As far as I am concerned you can come and collect as many as you like
from South East London, we have so many of them, but beware, a lot of
them are very mangy, I suppose since their diet will be a mixture of
discarded fast food, lots of that round here, and of course the contents
peoples bins. We fairly often find dead ones on our allotments. They are
not a healthy population at all.

--
Martin

alex_t March 13th 07 10:27 AM

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Not really what you expect in Walthamstow!


Must have been fun :-)
Here (in the lost land between Bow and Stratford) there's a lot of
empty land, and foxes seem to like it.


Tom Anderson March 13th 07 05:56 PM

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On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, alex_t wrote:

Not really what you expect in Walthamstow!


Must have been fun :-) Here (in the lost land between Bow and Stratford)
there's a lot of empty land, and foxes seem to like it.


The lost land! The Bow back rivers area is one of my favourite places in
London; i don't know that i'd call it 'lost'. But then, i don't have to
live there!

tom

--
Fitter, Happier, More Productive.

alex_t March 13th 07 10:28 PM

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The lost land! The Bow back rivers area is one of my favourite places in
London; i don't know that i'd call it 'lost'. But then, i don't have to
live there!


Yes, they are nice - but as most things in the area they are very
neglected: dirty, smelly, etc. Well, the smell is not from rivers
actually, it comes from the sewer nearby (especially when the wind is
from the sea), but it stinks so bad...

The only reason that I live here is that I got a chance to rent a flat
in a brand new block (near the City Mill Lock) quite cheaply, and it
is nice to live in, or better to say - it *was* nice in the beginning.
As a first tenant on my floor (and one of the first in the entire
building) I witnessed gradual decline from the initial shiny new
building to current pig farm (which is of course quite logical, given
that most people living here behave like pigs). Add local yobs, polish/
eastern-european drunkards, a couple of recent bourglaries (not in my
flat thank god - *knocks on wood*), multiple letter boxes broken into
(I redirected most of my mail to work) - and it is no surprise that
I'm going to start searching for a better place soon... :-/


Tom Anderson March 14th 07 06:43 PM

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On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, alex_t wrote:

The lost land! The Bow back rivers area is one of my favourite places
in London; i don't know that i'd call it 'lost'. But then, i don't have
to live there!


Yes, they are nice - but as most things in the area they are very
neglected: dirty, smelly, etc. Well, the smell is not from rivers
actually, it comes from the sewer nearby (especially when the wind is
from the sea), but it stinks so bad...

The only reason that I live here is that I got a chance to rent a flat
in a brand new block (near the City Mill Lock) quite cheaply, and it is
nice to live in, or better to say - it *was* nice in the beginning. As a
first tenant on my floor (and one of the first in the entire building) I
witnessed gradual decline from the initial shiny new building to current
pig farm (which is of course quite logical, given that most people
living here behave like pigs). Add local yobs, polish/ eastern-european
drunkards, a couple of recent bourglaries (not in my flat thank god -
*knocks on wood*), multiple letter boxes broken into (I redirected most
of my mail to work) - and it is no surprise that I'm going to start
searching for a better place soon... :-/


Yikes. Okay, that doesn't sound too fun.

tom

--
Axaxaxas Mlo

John Hearns March 15th 07 09:21 AM

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Tom Anderson wrote:


The lost land! The Bow back rivers area is one of my favourite places in
London; i don't know that i'd call it 'lost'. But then, i don't have to
live there!


Me too. But sadly very soon to be closed off, the wilderness "tidied up"
and the diggers to move in for the Olympics.
Get up there now to see the area while you can.

John Rowland March 15th 07 12:26 PM

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Martin Smith wrote:

As far as I am concerned you can come and collect as many as you like
from South East London, we have so many of them, but beware, a lot of
them are very mangy, I suppose since their diet will be a mixture of
discarded fast food, lots of that round here, and of course the
contents peoples bins. We fairly often find dead ones on our
allotments. They are not a healthy population at all.


Animals die. I don't think you can read too much into that, except that
there might be something poisonous on the allotment.



thoss March 15th 07 12:38 PM

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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 wrote:

On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:21:43 +0000, John Hearns
wrote:


Me too. But sadly very soon to be closed off, the wilderness "tidied up"
and the diggers to move in for the Olympics.


And what a total financial fiasco the damned Olympics are now turning
out to be from what I have heard on the news to day. I really feel
genuinely sorry for all Londoners who will have to stump up quite a
large part of the money needed via council tax to provide facilities
so people that with nothing else better to do can do all sorts of NONE
productive things with balls and bodies .
If some people want to run round a race track like idiots let them if
they want to do anything else in the name of sport or athletics let
them but do NOT expect people who do not have any interest at all in
such things to pay very dearly for it .
If Sebastian the nastian wants the damned Olympics let HIM pay the lot
out of his own pocket .
Rant over .


I suppose it's too late to say no and let Paris shoulder the burden.

James Farrar March 15th 07 01:37 PM

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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:26:51 +0000, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:21:43 +0000, John Hearns
wrote:


Me too. But sadly very soon to be closed off, the wilderness "tidied up"
and the diggers to move in for the Olympics.


And what a total financial fiasco the damned Olympics are now turning
out to be from what I have heard on the news to day.


Yeah, funny that, when you put 20 years building into six years, it
costs a lot. Means you don't need to spend that money (plus inflation)
over the following 14 years, though.

Steve Fitzgerald March 15th 07 01:58 PM

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In message ,
writes

I suppose it's too late to say no and let Paris shoulder the burden.


Pilocks the likes of Coe would not let such a thing happen, I could be
totally wrong but I feel this would not be happening if Mrs Thatcher
was still in charge .


You say that as though that would be a good thing?

For your info, Mrs.T doesn't run things now (and hasn't for quite a
while now, thankfully) and the currently elected government feels it is
the way to go. As a resident of East London, I'm inclined to agree with
them.

It is actually a good way for us to show the world how we can shine with
our organisational skills, and at the same time put some money into a
run down area to develop it.

YMMV of course.
--
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alex_t March 15th 07 02:25 PM

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As a resident of East London, I'm inclined to agree with
them.


As a resident of East London I'd say that East London would have been
much better if even half of those money would be invested directly
into the transformation of the land - without any Olympics. Besides I
don't think that Stratford or Bow will look any better in the end
(until they will demolish everything and replace with a park).


James Farrar March 15th 07 02:55 PM

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On 15 Mar 2007 08:25:37 -0700, "alex_t"
wrote:


As a resident of East London, I'm inclined to agree with
them.


As a resident of East London I'd say that East London would have been
much better if even half of those money would be invested directly
into the transformation of the land - without any Olympics. Besides I
don't think that Stratford or Bow will look any better in the end
(until they will demolish everything and replace with a park).


More than half the money is going into regeneration. The actual costs
of running the Games are (a) small in comparison and (b) entirely met
by sponsorship and TV rights money.

asdf March 15th 07 03:49 PM

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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:58:52 +0000, Steve Fitzgerald wrote:

It is actually a good way for us to show the world how we can shine with
our organisational skills,


The thing is, most people don't give a toss about this (or at least
not enough to want to pay for any of it).

Besides, we're just as likely to embarrass ourselves instead, with our
lack of organisational skills or any ability to keep to a budget.

alex_t March 15th 07 03:55 PM

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More than half the money is going into regeneration. The actual costs
of running the Games are (a) small in comparison and (b) entirely met
by sponsorship and TV rights money.


What about the cost of new buildings (stadiums, etc) ?


Steve Fitzgerald March 15th 07 05:44 PM

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In message ,
writes

You must be one of the rich residents of East London then you talk to
my friend in Sidcup and she will tell you what she thinks about having
her council tax bill increased due to the poxy Olympics and she would
also tell you what she thinks about the damned stupid dome which
London decided to throw money away on.
I tell you if I lived in London after what was reveled regarding the
Olympics today there would have been a for sale notice in our garden
now !!!. As a matter of fact another friend who used to live in south
London sold up and moved up here to Lancashire very soon after he
heard London had got the games .


Since when was Sidcup in East London? The fact that the LB of Bromley
has increased their council tax by 3% (which they state is the lowest
for years and below inflation of 4.2%) is hardly because of the
Olympics.

No, I'm not one of the 'rich residents' - just one that appreciates that
money is coming this way to regenerate East London - and not some
wannabe posh area in the sticks of South East London.

You're obviously not a resident, but still feel you can comment on what
is good for us!

I used to live in Lancashire but I'm happy to be here now. The council
tax for what would be my house 'up there' is greater that what I pay
now. How is Lancashire better exactly?

It is actually a good way for us to show the world how we can shine with
our organisational skills, and at the same time put some money into a
run down area to develop it.


But who's money ? the dear old ladies next door who worked and saved
all her life to build a little nest egg for her retirement just to
have it all taken from her now by red ken in increased council tax to
help pay for the Olympics .

When EVERYONE in this country has a decent home and pensioners have a
decent level of income then I will agree with throwing money away on
ANY KIND of sport or athletics .


You really have no idea, do you?
--
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Steve Fitzgerald March 15th 07 05:46 PM

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In message , asdf
writes

It is actually a good way for us to show the world how we can shine with
our organisational skills,


The thing is, most people don't give a toss about this (or at least
not enough to want to pay for any of it).

Besides, we're just as likely to embarrass ourselves instead, with our
lack of organisational skills or any ability to keep to a budget.


Maybe we will. I didn't say we would actually succeed - just a way for
us to show!
--
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Steve Fitzgerald March 15th 07 05:52 PM

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In message ,
writes

Exactly it is the cost of it all what matters and I have just heard on
the news that government is going to be meeting TWO THIRDS of the cost
of the 2012 Olympics which in fact means that EVERY person in the UK is
going to have to cough up some cash by means of VAT increases in VAT
levels by Brown or his successor. Plus of course revenue generated from
fuel duties ,stamp duty on property,and every other form of tax which
the government extracts money from us all with and I do mean all and
all including little kids by paying VAT on things they buy with their
spending money each week .


Make your mind up - either the LB of Bromley is footing the bill (via
your mythical friend) or the whole country is going to have an increase
in VAT.

You just regurgitate the rubbish you see on TV but don't actually bother
to think for yourself, do you? You believe it's all fact cause it's on
the telly?
--
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(please use the reply to address for email)

Tom Anderson March 15th 07 07:08 PM

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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, John Hearns wrote:

Tom Anderson wrote:

The lost land! The Bow back rivers area is one of my favourite places
in London; i don't know that i'd call it 'lost'. But then, i don't have
to live there!


Me too. But sadly very soon to be closed off, the wilderness "tidied up"
and the diggers to move in for the Olympics. Get up there now to see the
area while you can.


To a point - nothing Olympic is happening south of the GEML (or north of
the East Cross Route), barring a couple of car parks, so quite a lot of
the area will survive. A lot of the beautiful-in-their-own-way places will
indeed go, though :(.

tom

--
We must perform a quirkafleeg

alex_t March 15th 07 08:41 PM

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nothing Olympic is happening south of the GEML (or north of
the East Cross Route), barring a couple of car parks


So all those "exciting" deserted factories (one of them occupied by
some weird church, and I suspect that without authorization), dusty
empty office buildings, and ruined garages will become part of the
Olympic settings? Wow!


Nick Leverton March 15th 07 09:47 PM

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In article .com,
alex_t wrote:

nothing Olympic is happening south of the GEML (or north of
the East Cross Route), barring a couple of car parks


So all those "exciting" deserted factories (one of them occupied by
some weird church, and I suspect that without authorization), dusty
empty office buildings, and ruined garages will become part of the
Olympic settings? Wow!


What *is* Britain's special sport for hosting the games - Olympic
warehouse squatting ? :-)

Nick (let's parteee ...)
--
http://www.leverton.org/blosxom ... So express yourself


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