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Can anybody explain how Bob Kiley got round the drug and alcohol
policy or does it not apply at TfL.

Kevin

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Kev wrote:
Can anybody explain how Bob Kiley got round the drug and alcohol
policy or does it not apply at TfL.

I didn't understand why he would be interviewed for that story. Is he
going out of his way to try to embarrass Ken?
--
Michael Hoffman

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On Mar 29, 3:08 pm, Michael Hoffman wrote:
Kev wrote:
Can anybody explain how Bob Kiley got round the drug and alcohol
policy or does it not apply at TfL.

I didn't understand why he would be interviewed for that story. Is he
going out of his way to try to embarrass Ken?

Perhaps he's hoping he can go into rehab and meet some celebrity
chick? Whatever his reasons lets hope Ken sees sense and doesn't renew
his contract. I'd be interested to see if anyone has a list of what
he's actually achieved since he's been here for his 3 grand a week
that someone else couldnt' have, since I suspect it woudln't be all
that long.

B2003

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"Boltar" wrote in news:1175178339.289628.78280
@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:

what he's actually achieved since he's been here for his 3 grand a week

Er, 3 grand a day.

E.

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On Mar 29, 4:06 pm, eastender wrote:
"Boltar" wrote in news:1175178339.289628.78280
@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:

what he's actually achieved since he's been here for his 3 grand a week

Er, 3 grand a day.

Bloody hell! How on earth can anyone be worth that much?? No wonder my
travelcard costs so damn much if they'll blow that sort of money.

B2003

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Boltar wrote:
On Mar 29, 4:06 pm, eastender wrote:
"Boltar" wrote in news:1175178339.289628.78280
@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:

what he's actually achieved since he's been here for his 3 grand a week
Er, 3 grand a day.

Bloody hell! How on earth can anyone be worth that much??

It's only the cost of 750 zone 1 paper singles.
--
Michael Hoffman

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The "Threshers" off licence opposite Windsor House referred to in the
Evening Standard's original accusation several years ago closed down
shortly after Bob's retirement as commissioner! (Drop in trade?)

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On 29 Mar 2007 11:44:37 -0700, wrote:

The "Threshers" off licence opposite Windsor House referred to in the
Evening Standard's original accusation several years ago closed down
shortly after Bob's retirement as commissioner! (Drop in trade?)

No it didn't - that's just the standing joke as I suspect you know. If
I've been "whooshed" then fair cop!

It's still open - check the Threshers website and insert the post code
for 55 Broadway (SW1H 0BD) which is two minutes away rather than the 30
seconds away from Windsor House.

--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

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"Kev" wrote in message
oups.com...
Can anybody explain how Bob Kiley got round the drug and alcohol
policy or does it not apply at TfL.

Kevin


It probably only applies to station staff etc but not office knobs????

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On Mar 29, 4:41 pm, Michael Hoffman wrote:
Boltar wrote:
On Mar 29, 4:06 pm, eastender wrote:
"Boltar" wrote in news:1175178339.289628.78280
@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:

what he's actually achieved since he's been here for his 3 grand a week
Er, 3 grand a day.

Bloody hell! How on earth can anyone be worth that much??

It's only the cost of 750 zone 1 paper singles.

Oh well, as long as it only takes an entire trains worth of people to
pay 1 day of his salary thats ok then. And there was me thinking it
was extortionate.

B2003

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Boltar wrote:
On Mar 29, 4:41 pm, Michael Hoffman wrote:
Boltar wrote:
On Mar 29, 4:06 pm, eastender wrote:
"Boltar" wrote in news:1175178339.289628.78280
@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:
what he's actually achieved since he's been here for his 3 grand a week
Er, 3 grand a day.
Bloody hell! How on earth can anyone be worth that much??
It's only the cost of 750 zone 1 paper singles.

Oh well, as long as it only takes an entire trains worth of people to
pay 1 day of his salary thats ok then. And there was me thinking it
was extortionate.

I intended more to make a comment on the extortionate price of paper
singles. ;)
--
Michael Hoffman

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On Mar 30, 1:52 am, "Frank Incense" wrote:
"Kev" wrote in message

oups.com...

Can anybody explain how Bob Kiley got round the drug and alcohol
policy or does it not apply at TfL.

Kevin

It probably only applies to station staff etc but not office knobs????


The D&A Policy is applied to all LUL (and I guess TfL) staff. The
amount of alcohol allowed in your system when booking on for duty is
zero.
The difference is that operational staff can get the sack, be
prosecuted and possibly be given a custodial sentance, whereas "office
staff" will most likely just be dismissed.
Also for LU Operational staff, if you are on any medication. You must
inform your manager/supervisor before starting work. If you are D&A
tested, and on the "prohibited for safety-critical" you could well be
in the brown stuff.

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On Mar 30, 11:06 am, Michael Hoffman wrote:
Boltar wrote:
On Mar 29, 4:41 pm, Michael Hoffman wrote:
Boltar wrote:
On Mar 29, 4:06 pm, eastender wrote:
"Boltar" wrote in news:1175178339.289628.78280
@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:
what he's actually achieved since he's been here for his 3 grand a week
Er, 3 grand a day.
Bloody hell! How on earth can anyone be worth that much??
It's only the cost of 750 zone 1 paper singles.

Oh well, as long as it only takes an entire trains worth of people to
pay 1 day of his salary thats ok then. And there was me thinking it
was extortionate.

I intended more to make a comment on the extortionate price of paper
singles. ;)

Well they are , but I guess now we know the real reason is to keep Mr
Jack Daniels in a job ;)

B2003

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On 30 Mar 2007 03:18:34 -0700, "chunky munky"
wrote:


The D&A Policy is applied to all LUL (and I guess TfL) staff. The
amount of alcohol allowed in your system when booking on for duty is
zero.
The difference is that operational staff can get the sack, be
prosecuted and possibly be given a custodial sentance, whereas "office
staff" will most likely just be dismissed.
Also for LU Operational staff, if you are on any medication. You must
inform your manager/supervisor before starting work. If you are D&A
tested, and on the "prohibited for safety-critical" you could well be
in the brown stuff.

And for any job the management must treat alcoholism as a disease
rather than a disciplinary matter.

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Under LU rules a random or "for cause" D&A test is always supervised
by a senior grade, I'm presuming the LU system was adopted by TFL
(which took over many civil service personnel who were previously not
under such draconian rules!). In Kiley's case who would the
supervising senior person be?

As an aside, a friend of mine absorbed into TFL Streets from the DoT
turned down a staff pass for a number of years to remain on civil
service conditions and thus still be able to have a drink at lunchtime
(*not* to get drunk I might add!).

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Ken wrote:
On 30 Mar 2007 03:18:34 -0700, "chunky munky"
wrote:


The D&A Policy is applied to all LUL (and I guess TfL) staff. The
amount of alcohol allowed in your system when booking on for duty is
zero.
The difference is that operational staff can get the sack, be
prosecuted and possibly be given a custodial sentance, whereas "office
staff" will most likely just be dismissed.
Also for LU Operational staff, if you are on any medication. You must
inform your manager/supervisor before starting work. If you are D&A
tested, and on the "prohibited for safety-critical" you could well be
in the brown stuff.

And for any job the management must treat alcoholism as a disease
rather than a disciplinary matter.

Really? I understood that for legal purposes (such as disability
discrimination law) alcoholism and other drug addictions were excluded
unless they result from another disease (for instance someone with an
addiction to pain killers resulting from being prescribed them to cure
another disease could claim that the addiction is a disease for
employment law purposes).

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plank removed. Each day he saw a nose, then the ears, then the neck,
forequarters, back and finally the tail. He pondered this for a time
and eventually declared. “I understand now. The nose causes the tail”