Thanks David has I said not interested really but was very curious due
to the subject " trains to the semi final"SEMI FINAL God I really
should read and digest what I am seeing before opening my gob now it
all makes sense ))))))))))))))))).

Villa Park has been a traditional venue for FA Cup Semi Finals, which
must be played at a neutral ground, for many years.

Its central location makes it an ideal choice helped also by the
perennial failure of Birmingham teams to advance through to the later
stages of the competition thanks to draws such as Villa's first games
this year against Chelsea in the League Cup and Manchester Utd in the
FA Cup, whilst the Tottenhams of this World (who must surely have a
special ball in the draw) get Woking or Dagenham and Redbridge and of
course never ever away from White Hart Lane.

Yours Bitter and Twisted

P.S. From next season, the FA are proposing that FA Cup semi-finals,
as well as the final itself, should all be played at Wembley, which
was a bad idea last time it was tried but I suppose they need to get
their money back.

On 12 Apr, 22:38, "David Morgan"
wrote:
"allan tracy" wrote in message

oups.com...

Aston is as good as Witton if your seat is in the Holte end so it's
probably to keep oposing fans apart.

Aston Station's nearly twice the distance, even if you're at the Holte End.
So I suppose it must be your second suggestion i.e crowd segregation.

I note the comment "To ensure everyone gets home, in the event of extra time
and penalties
we will be holding the trains to depart after the game." AFAIK there aren't
sidings at Aston to hold trains without blocking the line. Where is the
closest suitable holding location - Bescot?

--
David

I'd have thought that with a few amendments there would be capacity
for them to stable in two of the platforms at Walsall, or they could
go to Soho- although I'm not sure how full the latter gets at weekends
now, not having been that way in about 14 years.

On 13 Apr, 18:10, wrote:
I notice many where blaming the Italian police the other night for
what happened RUBBISH if people had just gone to the game without
filling up with booze first watched the game and went straight home
afterwards the police would have fallen asleep due to being bored.
There was none of this crap back in the days when I went to watch PNE
and Tom Finney occasionally on a Saturday afternoon .

I'm not going to defend football supporters that cause trouble (which,
fortunately is only a minority or it would be carnage) but from all
the reports I've read and people in the media I've spoken to, it seems
that in the case of the ManU/Roma game, it was the police that
provoked the English fans and goaded them on.

Sadly, the Italian riot police (many wearing masks and no ID) seemed
well up for a fight and acted far worse than any hooligan from any
team/country. If you were fairly low paid, got given a uniform and
riot gear with no way for anyone to identify you, would you perhaps be
tempted to act differently? The only difference between them and the
fan that was 'up for it' is the fact one is getting paid and won't be
done.

More telling is the fact that Italian football fans will tell you
about the problems they have at certain clubs on a regular basis, yet
it is only really news when English fans are involved.

Jonathan

Paul Scott wrote:
"allan tracy" wrote in message
oups.com...

But as another poster pointed out ManU fans could arrive from anywhere.

Everywhere 'except' from the Manchester direction (allegedly)...

Allegedly and wrongly. Some of my chums have done a bit of work recently
on transport arrangements for games at Old Trafford. The bulk of home
support comes from the Manchester area, and an elephant lot of them walk
to the ground. It's the sheer scale of MU support that makes it look as
though the M6 is full of fans on a match day.
--
Joyce Whitchurch, Stalybridge, UK
=================================

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 wrote:

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:57:33 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote:

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 wrote:

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:31:52 +0100, "Frank Incense"
wrote:

God I really should read and digest what I am seeing before opening my
gob now it all makes sense ))))))))))))))))).

Have a trip on E* to relax a little

Never touch drugs of any kind except for nicotine just a case of putting
this old brain of mine in gear before touching the keyboard .

I think E* may mean Eurostar - a more civilised kind of trip altogether!

There again never thought about the star and I should have done has I
travel on E over to Belgium to collect supplies of nicotine around five
times a year ))) .

Funny - i go to buy my E in a dragster .

tom

--
packaheomg sogma's

Does any one know what CMDNS TH means? This is what the trains are
described as on the National Rail web site for live departures?

Burkey

burkey wrote:
Does any one know what CMDNS TH means? This is what the trains are
described as on the National Rail web site for live departures?

Camden South Junction

http://deaves47.users.btopenworld.com/CRS/CRSc.htm

Strange that the LDB is showing them to be Central Trains services,
instead of Silverlink.

In article ,
Mark Morton wrote:
Does any one know what CMDNS TH means? This is what the trains are
described as on the National Rail web site for live departures?

Camden South Junction

http://deaves47.users.btopenworld.com/CRS/CRSc.htm

Strange that the LDB is showing them to be Central Trains services,
instead of Silverlink.

Is this because they are using the Desiros rather than 321s?

--
David Wild using RISC OS on broadband

"Mark Morton" wrote in message
...
burkey wrote:
Does any one know what CMDNS TH means? This is what the trains are
described as on the National Rail web site for live departures?

Camden South Junction

http://deaves47.users.btopenworld.com/CRS/CRSc.htm

Strange that the LDB is showing them to be Central Trains services,
instead of Silverlink.

Isn't it because the LDB sysyem can't cope with a change of operator 'en
route', so through services run by Silverlink/Central show as Silverlink in
the down, and Central in the up directions?

IIRC the same happens with Scotrail at Newcastle, arrivals via Carlisle
(crewed by Northern) show as Scotrail, and all the departures show Northern.

Paul

On Apr 14, 9:24�pm, wrote:
In article ,
* *Mark Morton wrote:

Does any one know what CMDNS TH means? This is what the trains are
described as on the National Rail web site for live departures?
Camden South Junction
http://deaves47.users.btopenworld.com/CRS/CRSc.htm
Strange that the LDB is showing them to be Central Trains services,
instead of Silverlink.

Is this because they are using the Desiros rather than 321s?

Does anyone know what stock they used on the other special to the
match?
Looking at the fare, there must have been something else thrown in,
maybe a Class 81-85 and 14 MK1's maybe? They could always shunt along
the platform at Aston to let the supporters off in two goes!
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