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are they coins now notess or both?

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Are they coins or notes, or both?

Notes only at present.

Ian

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"Ian F." wrote in message
...
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Are they coins or notes, or both?

Notes only at present.

Ian



There are a few £5 coins about that are legal tender but they usually end up
in the hands of collectors


SteveTBM

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In message ,
writes
Bout time the fiver was scrapped of and made coin only at one time if
you had a fiver in your pocket you felt you where rich but not any
more.
You can't even get them from the "wailing wall".
--
Clive.

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"Clive." wrote in message
...
In message ,
writes
Bout time the fiver was scrapped of and made coin only at one time if
you had a fiver in your pocket you felt you where rich but not any
more.
You can't even get them from the "wailing wall".

Which is itself a bigger problem as there would appear
to be no other way of getting them into circulation.

The BoE has loads of fivers, printed and ready to
ship, to replace all the tatty worn out notes that are
still circulated and the high street banks don't want
to take them.

tim

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In article ,
(Ian F.) wrote:

wrote in message
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Are they coins or notes, or both?

Notes only at present.

Apart from some commemorative coins which don't circulate. The Five
Pounds coin replaces the traditional Crown in that area.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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tim..... wrote
[...]
Which is itself a bigger problem as there would appear
to be no other way of getting them into circulation.

The BoE has loads of fivers, printed and ready to
ship, to replace all the tatty worn out notes that are
still circulated and the high street banks don't want
to take them.

If so it's because they too have no means of getting them into
circulation since they don't want to reload the ATMs aka hole in the
wall machines two or four times more often.

Why not cash a cheque over the bank counter and ask for new fivers ?

Because it would take ten minutes longer and eat into your lunch hour ?


--
Mike D

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tim..... ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

Which is itself a bigger problem as there would appear
to be no other way of getting them into circulation.

Crap.

ATMs aren't the only way notes get into circulation.

Many shops take wodges of 'em from the bank for till floats.

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In message 01c77f80$17483ca0$LocalHost@default, Michael R N Dolbear
writes
If so it's because they too have no means of getting them into
circulation since they don't want to reload the ATMs aka hole in the
wall machines two or four times more often.
When our local wailing wall had £5s and £10s it would always run out on
a Saturday lunch time. Now it has £10s and £20s it seems to be good
for the whole of the weekend.
--
Clive.

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Adrian wrote:
tim..... ) gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying :

Which is itself a bigger problem as there would appear
to be no other way of getting them into circulation.


Now that I think about it, there are a lot of worn fivers out there, and not
many worn tenners or twenties.

Crap.

ATMs aren't the only way notes get into circulation.

Many shops take wodges of 'em from the bank for till floats.

But if the banks aren't getting new fivers from the BoE, the shops are
getting old fivers from the banks.

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"Adrian" wrote in message
. 245.131...
tim..... ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

Which is itself a bigger problem as there would appear
to be no other way of getting them into circulation.

Crap.

ATMs aren't the only way notes get into circulation.

Many shops take wodges of 'em from the bank for till floats.

There is an increasing tendency to get change in coins for a ten pound note,
with an apology for a lack of fivers, which bears out the theory that there
are less in circulation.

Paul

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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 08:00:49 +0100, "Paul Scott"
wrote:


"Adrian" wrote in message
.245.131...
tim..... ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

Which is itself a bigger problem as there would appear
to be no other way of getting them into circulation.

Crap.

ATMs aren't the only way notes get into circulation.

Many shops take wodges of 'em from the bank for till floats.

There is an increasing tendency to get change in coins for a ten pound note,
with an apology for a lack of fivers, which bears out the theory that there
are less in circulation.

I've noticed this several times in the last month, certainly.

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"Michael R N Dolbear" wrote in message
news:01c77f80$17483ca0$LocalHost@default...

tim..... wrote
[...]
Which is itself a bigger problem as there would appear
to be no other way of getting them into circulation.

The BoE has loads of fivers, printed and ready to
ship, to replace all the tatty worn out notes that are
still circulated and the high street banks don't want
to take them.

If so it's because they too have no means of getting them into
circulation since they don't want to reload the ATMs aka hole in the
wall machines two or four times more often.

Why not cash a cheque over the bank counter and ask for new fivers ?

I personally would love to do this, but I bet if I did
they would still expect me to take 5 twenties

tim

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James Farrar typed


There is an increasing tendency to get change in coins for a ten
pound note,
with an apology for a lack of fivers, which bears out the theory that
there
are less in circulation.

I've noticed this several times in the last month, certainly.

I've noticed it for at least a year...

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

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"Paul Scott" wrote in message
...

"Adrian" wrote in message
. 245.131...
tim..... ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

Which is itself a bigger problem as there would appear
to be no other way of getting them into circulation.

Crap.

ATMs aren't the only way notes get into circulation.

Many shops take wodges of 'em from the bank for till floats.

There is an increasing tendency to get change in coins for a ten pound
note, with an apology for a lack of fivers, which bears out the theory
that there are less in circulation.

The other problem is many shops don't have any £2 coins either so you get a
load of £1 coins instead.

Peter Smyth

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On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 12:52 +0100 (BST), (Colin
Rosenstiel) wrote:

In article ,
(Ian F.) wrote:

wrote in message
ps.com...

Are they coins or notes, or both?

Notes only at present.

Apart from some commemorative coins which don't circulate. The Five
Pounds coin replaces the traditional Crown in that area.


according to the royal mint web site the Crown is 25p !

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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:04:47 +0100, Martyn Dawe
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 12:52 +0100 (BST), (Colin
Rosenstiel) wrote:

In article ,
(Ian F.) wrote:

wrote in message
ps.com...

Are they coins or notes, or both?

Notes only at present.

Apart from some commemorative coins which don't circulate. The Five
Pounds coin replaces the traditional Crown in that area.


according to the royal mint web site the Crown is 25p !

sorry I now see this changed in 1990 !, I was looking at my Churchill
crowns.

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tim..... wrote

"Michael R N Dolbear" wrote

If so it's because they too have no means of getting them into
circulation since they don't want to reload the ATMs aka hole in
the
wall machines two or four times more often.

Why not cash a cheque over the bank counter and ask for new fivers
?

I personally would love to do this, but I bet if I did
they would still expect me to take 5 twenties

It's the cashier's job to give you the denominations you ask for (in
the old days you wrote it on the back of the cheque).

They might only have old fivers of course so a visit to the Bank of
England might be necessary with 2 x £50.


--
Mike D

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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:02:25 +0100, HVB
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 11:41:09 +0100, "Clive."
wrote:

In message ,
writes
Bout time the fiver was scrapped of and made coin only at one time if
you had a fiver in your pocket you felt you where rich but not any
more.
You can't even get them from the "wailing wall".

You can - I got 10 of them this morning from a Barclays machine.

Blimey, where?

The last HITW I knew that gave out fivers was at the Barclays at
Gloucester Road, but that stopped three or four years ago.

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James Farrar wrote in message
:

On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:02:25 +0100, HVB
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 11:41:09 +0100, "Clive."
wrote:

In message ,
writes
Bout time the fiver was scrapped of and made coin only at one time
if you had a fiver in your pocket you felt you where rich but not
any more.
You can't even get them from the "wailing wall".

You can - I got 10 of them this morning from a Barclays machine.

Blimey, where?

The last HITW I knew that gave out fivers was at the Barclays at
Gloucester Road, but that stopped three or four years ago.

Yes, Nat West cashpoints only dispense in £10 multiples and I've never had
£10, £20 etc made up partly of fivers in the last few years.

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tim..... wrote:
"Clive." wrote in message
...
In message ,
writes
Bout time the fiver was scrapped of and made coin only at one time if
you had a fiver in your pocket you felt you where rich but not any
more.
You can't even get them from the "wailing wall".

Which is itself a bigger problem as there would appear
to be no other way of getting them into circulation.

The BoE has loads of fivers, printed and ready to
ship, to replace all the tatty worn out notes that are
still circulated and the high street banks don't want
to take them.

If the Bank of England sends the notes to me, I'll put them into
circulation.

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

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In article , James Farrar
writes
The last HITW I knew that gave out fivers was at the Barclays at
Gloucester Road, but that stopped three or four years ago.

The ones in or near college bars are a good place to try. Number One Son
gets fivers out of the machine at his university.

--
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Tel: +44 20 8495 6138 (work) | Web: http://www.davros.org
Fax: +44 870 051 9937 | Work:
Please reply to the Reply-To address, which is:

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wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:03:01 +0100, "Clive D. W. Feather"
wrote:


Number One Son
gets fivers out of the machine at his university.

Now this is something that many people say that really winds me up
it ISN'T HIS university at all saying "the university he attends would
be more accurate"

Is English your first language? That seems a little excessively pedantic.

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When our local wailing wall had £5s and £10s it would always run out on
a Saturday lunch time. Now it has £10s and £20s it seems to be good
for the whole of the weekend.

Went into a cash machine inside a branch of Barclays today and upon
pressing the 'Any other amount' button was pleasantly surprised to see
at the bottom of the screen 'Notes available: £5 £10 £20.' Took out £75
in three denominations. I've never seen it before, anyway.

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Blimey, where?

The last HITW I knew that gave out fivers was at the Barclays at
Gloucester Road, but that stopped three or four years ago.

Maybe it's a Barclays thing. I got a crisp £5 out of a cashpoint inside
a Barclays in Birmingham this afternoon.

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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:04:47 +0100, Martyn Dawe
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 12:52 +0100 (BST), (Colin
Rosenstiel) wrote:

In article ,
(Ian F.) wrote:

wrote in message
ps.com...

Are they coins or notes, or both?

Notes only at present.

Apart from some commemorative coins which don't circulate. The Five
Pounds coin replaces the traditional Crown in that area.


according to the royal mint web site the Crown is 25p !


airy not since 1990. the 5 pound coin is now a Crown- check out the
royal mint web site.

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Dave Newt wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:03:01 +0100, "Clive D. W. Feather"
wrote:


Number One Son
gets fivers out of the machine at his university.

Now this is something that many people say that really winds me up
it ISN'T HIS university at all saying "the university he attends
would be more accurate"

Is English your first language? That seems a little excessively
pedantic.

"A little excessively"? ;-)

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In article , John Rowland
writes
Is English your first language? That seems a little excessively
pedantic.
"A little excessively"? ;-)

All right: a lot excessively.

[And this is *me* talking.]

--
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Tel: +44 20 8495 6138 (work) | Web: http://www.davros.org
Fax: +44 870 051 9937 | Work:
Please reply to the Reply-To address, which is:

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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007, Clive D. W. Feather wrote:

In article , James Farrar
writes

The last HITW I knew that gave out fivers was at the Barclays at
Gloucester Road, but that stopped three or four years ago.

The ones in or near college bars are a good place to try. Number One Son
gets fivers out of the machine at his university.

Funny you should say that - the example i was thinking of was a Barclays
machine on Turl Street in Oxford, within stumbling distance of quite a few
pubs and bars, that does fivers. Or at least, did last time i used it,
which was admittedly quite a while ago.

So, if the Bank of England has these fivers, but the high street banks
don't want to take them, why doesn't it just put its foot down - for every
two tenners they get, they have to take a fiver too, for example. One of
the advantages of having a monopoly position, surely!

tom

--
One of the principal objects of theoretical research in my department
of knowledge is to find the point of view from which the subject appears
in its greatest simplicity. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs

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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007, Dave Newt wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:03:01 +0100, "Clive D. W. Feather"
wrote:

Number One Son gets fivers out of the machine at his university.

Now this is something that many people say that really winds me up it
ISN'T HIS university at all saying "the university he attends would be
more accurate"

Is English your first language? That seems a little excessively
pedantic.

That's an interesting way of spelling 'completely wrong'.

The OED, on the various subtly different uses of 'his':

"Also used with objects which are not one's property, but which one ought
to have, or has specially to deal with (e.g. to kill his man, to gain his
blue), or which are the common possession of a class, in which every one
is assumed to have his share (e.g. he knows his Bible, his Homer, his
Hudibras, he has forgotten his Greek, his arithmetic, etc.)."

Interestingly, the earliest quotation they have for this sense is from
1709, rather later than the 9th-century first uses for the other major
senses. I wonder if this is an artefact of quotation, or a real change in
usage, and if so, how this relation was expressed before the change.

Cross-posting to alt.usage.english to see if anyone knows!

tom

--
One of the principal objects of theoretical research in my department
of knowledge is to find the point of view from which the subject appears
in its greatest simplicity. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs

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In article ,
(Mojo) wrote:

Maybe it's a Barclays thing. I got a crisp £5 out of a cashpoint
inside a Barclays in Birmingham this afternoon.

Our local Barclays has fivers in it's bricks, but only in store...

--
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"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
.li...
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007, Dave Newt wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:03:01 +0100, "Clive D. W. Feather"
wrote:

Number One Son gets fivers out of the machine at his university.

Now this is something that many people say that really winds me up
it
ISN'T HIS university at all saying "the university he attends would
be
more accurate"

Is English your first language? That seems a little excessively
pedantic.

That's an interesting way of spelling 'completely wrong'.

The OED, on the various subtly different uses of 'his':

"Also used with objects which are not one's property, but which one
ought
to have, or has specially to deal with (e.g. to kill his man, to gain
his
blue), or which are the common possession of a class, in which every
one
is assumed to have his share (e.g. he knows his Bible, his Homer, his
Hudibras, he has forgotten his Greek, his arithmetic, etc.)."

Interestingly, the earliest quotation they have for this sense is from
1709, rather later than the 9th-century first uses for the other major
senses. I wonder if this is an artefact of quotation, or a real change
in
usage, and if so, how this relation was expressed before the change.

Cross-posting to alt.usage.english to see if anyone knows!

Interesting, but I think it's an artefact of quotation - if anything at
all. That 1709+ sense isn't the "his university" one. Earlier in the
entry there are plenty of examples of "his" used for things which aren't
possessions. I think Clavox has the wrong end of the stick. And even if
he _has_ identified a change, it wouldn't be relevant in the slightest
to current formal English, in which "his school" etc are perfectly
idiomatic. If he doubts the validity of this attitude, ask him why he
isn't talking like the first line of OED's examples.

--
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:17:06 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Apr 2007, Clive D. W. Feather wrote:

In article , James Farrar
writes

The last HITW I knew that gave out fivers was at the Barclays at
Gloucester Road, but that stopped three or four years ago.

The ones in or near college bars are a good place to try. Number One Son
gets fivers out of the machine at his university.

Funny you should say that - the example i was thinking of was a Barclays
machine on Turl Street in Oxford, within stumbling distance of quite a few
pubs and bars, that does fivers. Or at least, did last time i used it,
which was admittedly quite a while ago.

The one at Gloucester Road, I think, gave them out because of its
proximity to IC.

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On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:37:39 +0100, wrote:

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:05:39 +0100, "Mike Lyle"
wrote:


That 1709+ sense isn't the "his university" one. Earlier in the
entry there are plenty of examples of "his" used for things which aren't
possessions. I think Clavox has the wrong end of the stick. And even if
he _has_ identified a change, it wouldn't be relevant in the slightest
to current formal English, in which "his school" etc are perfectly
idiomatic. If he doubts the validity of this attitude, ask him why he
isn't talking like the first line of OED's examples.

Mike I am not and wasn't after an argument here but has I said it
always riles me when I see and hear people saying this kind of thing
" HIS firm does this that and the other etc etc" wrong in my book it
should be the firm or company he works for does etc etc .

Clavox, meet idiom.

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On Apr 18, 12:37 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:05:39 +0100, "Mike Lyle"

wrote:
That 1709+ sense isn't the "his university" one. Earlier in the
entry there are plenty of examples of "his" used for things which aren't
possessions. I think Clavox has the wrong end of the stick. And even if
he _has_ identified a change, it wouldn't be relevant in the slightest
to current formal English, in which "his school" etc are perfectly
idiomatic. If he doubts the validity of this attitude, ask him why he
isn't talking like the first line of OED's examples.

Mike I am not and wasn't after an argument here but has I said it
always riles me when I see and hear people saying this kind of thing
" HIS firm does this that and the other etc etc" wrong in my book it
should be the firm or company he works for does etc etc .

What about "his friend" or "his sister"? What about "my God"? I
don't see anything you can substitute there, but they don't belong to
him.

The "possessive" pronouns have had meanings in addition to possession
since Anglo-Saxon. I had to look through /Beowulf/ longer than I
expected (they used possessives a lot less then, apparently), but line
262 has "min faeder", my father, and line 267 has "hlaford thinne",
thy lord. Neither his father nor his lord belongs to him.

So I think you can stop being riled. It's just how English has always
worked. Incidentally, the few other languages I know anything about
work the same way.

(Quotations 7-bitted from "Beowulf on Steorarume [Beowulf in
Cyberspace]", http://www.heorot.dk/beo-intro-rede.html.)

--
Jerry Friedman

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wrote in message
...
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:05:39 +0100, "Mike Lyle"
wrote:


That 1709+ sense isn't the "his university" one. Earlier in the
entry there are plenty of examples of "his" used for things which
aren't
possessions. I think Clavox has the wrong end of the stick. And even
if
he _has_ identified a change, it wouldn't be relevant in the
slightest
to current formal English, in which "his school" etc are perfectly
idiomatic. If he doubts the validity of this attitude, ask him why he
isn't talking like the first line of OED's examples.

Mike I am not and wasn't after an argument here but has I said it
always riles me when I see and hear people saying this kind of thing
" HIS firm does this that and the other etc etc" wrong in my book it
should be the firm or company he works for does etc etc .

Hi, Clavox. Arguments are what we often do round here (AUE) - usually
politely. You certainly don't have to use the form yourself, but it
equally certainly isn't wrong: grammatical possession isn't ownership in
the sense in which property is owned. See Ron's example with the
drummer: I really don't see how one can fault, or improve upon, the
Biblical "thy neighbour" or "[Jethro] went his way into his own land".

--
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In alt.usage.english, wrote:
but to get back to the fivers I rang the BOE this afternoon
and as mentioned here the other day BOE have enough new notes to
replace every old note that is out there but they say banks are just
not asking for them and there is no way for us or BOE to make them.
What the guy at BOE did say more new notes would get into circulation
if only people would take any well worn notes into the banks instead
of just spending them in shops etc .

It's no good blaming the customers. The banks need to put the fivers in
their cash machines.

--
Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England

'His' was 5 pounds
 

On 18 Apr 2007, Mike Barnes wrote

In alt.usage.english, wrote:
but to get back to the fivers I rang the BOE this afternoon
and as mentioned here the other day BOE have enough new notes
to replace every old note that is out there but they say banks
are just not asking for them and there is no way for us or BOE
to make them. What the guy at BOE did say more new notes would
get into circulation if only people would take any well worn
notes into the banks instead of just spending them in shops etc
.

It's no good blaming the customers. The banks need to put the
fivers in their cash machines.

The banks will do this only if they're forced/coerced to do so by a
regulator. Indeed, this happened with tenners a few years back
when the banks pushed their luck by loading just twenties into the
machines.

The advantages of "just twenty pound notes" were obvious:

1. More cash is held in each machine; therfore less maintenance in
recharging.

2. Adjacent shops -- newsagents, corner stores -- would be asked to
cash lots of £20 notes.

3. Said shops needed a larger cash float.

4. Businesses pay for cash from the bank; it's not a free service.

Therefore -- for the bank -- it's money from both ends. (Less
maintenance, and more income from cash floats from nearby shops.)

The banks will not, by choice, load fivers into their ATMs; they
had to be coerced into keeping tenners in there.

--
Cheers, Harvey

Canadian and British English, indiscriminately mixed

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