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Mr Thant April 20th 07 07:37 AM

Exceptions to NR zonal fares?
 
Hi,

I was checking fares on the NR journey planner and noticed cheap day
returns from South Tottenham (Z3) to Upper Holloway and Gospel Oak
(both Z2) cost £2.40 and £2.70, when under the zone rules they should
both be £2.80.

Digging further, tickets to places further around the NLL seem to
increase gradually with distance (eg South Acton is £4.50), even
though it's still all Z2-3 and should all be the same price.

What am I missing?

U


asdf April 23rd 07 02:08 PM

Exceptions to NR zonal fares?
 
On 20 Apr 2007 00:37:37 -0700, Mr Thant wrote:

I was checking fares on the NR journey planner and noticed cheap day
returns from South Tottenham (Z3) to Upper Holloway and Gospel Oak
(both Z2) cost £2.40 and £2.70, when under the zone rules they should
both be £2.80.

Digging further, tickets to places further around the NLL seem to
increase gradually with distance (eg South Acton is £4.50), even
though it's still all Z2-3 and should all be the same price.

What am I missing?


The National Fares Manual includes a 3-letter code next to each fare
to indicate which company sets that fare. Most NR zonal fares are
shown as being set by "DBA" (not sure who that is). But the NLL ones
you quote are shown as being set by STS (Silverlink). So it does
indeed seem to be an exception.

Barry Salter April 23rd 07 06:50 PM

Exceptions to NR zonal fares?
 
asdf wrote:

The National Fares Manual includes a 3-letter code next to each fare
to indicate which company sets that fare. Most NR zonal fares are
shown as being set by "DBA" (not sure who that is). But the NLL ones
you quote are shown as being set by STS (Silverlink). So it does
indeed seem to be an exception.


I think DBA probably stands for Database Administrator, and appears on
all the fares set by TfL rather than a TOC.

HTH,

Barry

Tom Anderson April 23rd 07 07:04 PM

Exceptions to NR zonal fares?
 
On Mon, 23 Apr 2007, Barry Salter wrote:

asdf wrote:

The National Fares Manual includes a 3-letter code next to each fare to
indicate which company sets that fare. Most NR zonal fares are shown as
being set by "DBA" (not sure who that is). But the NLL ones you quote
are shown as being set by STS (Silverlink). So it does indeed seem to
be an exception.


I think DBA probably stands for Database Administrator, and appears on
all the fares set by TfL rather than a TOC.


I doubt it stands for that, but that's surely what it means. I'd guess
something like Direct Basis Arrangement, or some other obscure term for
the deal under which TfL got to set the fares. DfT Binding Agreement?

Alternatively, it could be my dad, since those are his initials. Unlikely,
though.

tom

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Mr Thant May 4th 07 03:19 PM

Exceptions to NR zonal fares?
 
On 23 Apr, 15:08, asdf wrote:
The National Fares Manual includes a 3-letter code next to each fare
to indicate which company sets that fare. Most NR zonal fares are
shown as being set by "DBA" (not sure who that is). But the NLL ones
you quote are shown as being set by STS (Silverlink). So it does
indeed seem to be an exception.


I emailed ATOC and weirdly they say it's becuse TfL are setting the
fares in advance of taking the whole lot over. Weren't the zonal fares
TfL's idea in the first place?

U


Paul Scott May 4th 07 03:23 PM

Exceptions to NR zonal fares?
 

"Mr Thant" wrote in message
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On 23 Apr, 15:08, asdf wrote:
The National Fares Manual includes a 3-letter code next to each fare
to indicate which company sets that fare. Most NR zonal fares are
shown as being set by "DBA" (not sure who that is). But the NLL ones
you quote are shown as being set by STS (Silverlink). So it does
indeed seem to be an exception.


I emailed ATOC and weirdly they say it's becuse TfL are setting the
fares in advance of taking the whole lot over. Weren't the zonal fares
TfL's idea in the first place?


Perhaps TfL intend to change the zones that the NLL passes through, IIRC
there have been a few odd changes in the past haven't there?

Paul




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