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At Bank, isn't the W&C at the northern end, with the Central line?


Updated :-)


Don't like your Kennington - you imply there are separate bits of the
station for each branch, when really it's cross-platform. Ditto Mile End,
Oxford Circus, etc. I accept that you may have your reasons for this,
though.


I need to "invent" something special for the cross-platform
interchanges - otherwise they will look just like shared tracks. I'm
thinking of circle split in half or crossed circle.


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alex_t wrote:

There's a geographically accurate map at:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Im...d_full_map.png


Indeed, I was talking about the tracks between stations: as mentioned
earlier (on my map) District at Ealing Broadway is incorrect. Also I
think that Edgware Road 1and 2 are swapped (I always thought that the
Bakerlook one is the northern), Mornington Crescent is on the wrong of
the Northern tracks (I think), ...


No, Mornington Crescent is roughly correct, although the City Branch should
be a somewhat wider curve. I think showing the junction halfway between
Camden Town and Mornington Crescent would be more accurate... I think.

The obvious errors are at the cross-platform interchanges where the lines
are not shown parallel, notably the Bakerloo and Jubbly at Baker Street
which are portrayed as nearly perpendicular, but also at Euston, Stockwell
and Oxford Circus.

I have a suspicion that the Charing Cross branch passes east of Lambeth
North, but ICBW.

The Metropolitan Line has unused platforms at Swiss Cottage station, so the
line should probably run closer to or through the station.

The portrayal of Arsenal is odd, because of the great horizontal distance
between the station entrance and the platforms: they are trying to show the
station east of the Victoria Line, which the *entrance* may well be, but the
Picc tracks between Finsbury Park and Caledonian Road are far away
underneath the WCML's graceful curve.

The portrayal of Newbury Park is also wrong: the line runs N-S through the
station, as an aerial photo will show:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...6475&encType=1 .

They've got the Victoria line passing straight under Buckingham Palace,
which I don't think it does.


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alex_t wrote:

There's a geographically accurate map at:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Im...d_full_map.png


Indeed, I was talking about the tracks between stations: as mentioned
earlier (on my map) District at Ealing Broadway is incorrect. Also I
think that Edgware Road 1and 2 are swapped (I always thought that the
Bakerlook one is the northern), Mornington Crescent is on the wrong of
the Northern tracks (I think), ...


No, Mornington Crescent is roughly correct, although the City Branch
should be a somewhat wider curve. I think showing the junction halfway
between Camden Town and Mornington Crescent would be more accurate... I
think.

The obvious errors are at the cross-platform interchanges where the lines
are not shown parallel, notably the Bakerloo and Jubbly at Baker Street
which are portrayed as nearly perpendicular, but also at Euston, Stockwell
and Oxford Circus.

I have a suspicion that the Charing Cross branch passes east of Lambeth
North, but ICBW.

The Metropolitan Line has unused platforms at Swiss Cottage station, so
the line should probably run closer to or through the station.

The portrayal of Arsenal is odd, because of the great horizontal distance
between the station entrance and the platforms: they are trying to show
the station east of the Victoria Line, which the *entrance* may well be,
but the Picc tracks between Finsbury Park and Caledonian Road are far away
underneath the WCML's graceful curve.

The portrayal of Newbury Park is also wrong: the line runs N-S through the
station, as an aerial photo will show:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...6475&encType=1 .

They've got the Victoria line passing straight under Buckingham Palace,
which I don't think it does.


All of which are fairly predictable given that they state the following on
the linked page: 'NB Routes between stations are interpolated and are not
geographically accurate'...

Paul S


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alex_t wrote:
Last weekend I had nothing to do, so I've drawn my own tube map :-|
http://www.fxfp.com/get/tube/2007/05/m_001.png

Warning! The file is about 500kb and quite large: 5000x3250 pixels.



Any corrections are welcome!



South Wimbledon and Wimbledon are much closer together and Wimbledon and
Morden are close too.
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South Wimbledon and Wimbledon are much closer together and Wimbledon and
Morden are close too.


Updated (and fixed south District and Northern in general):
http://www.fxfp.com/get/tube/2007/05/m_001.png

Also I made a special version of the map with tomorrow's disruptions
included (or excluded, to be exact):
http://www.fxfp.com/get/tube/2007/05/w_001.png



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On 5 May, 19:38, alex_t wrote:
South Wimbledon and Wimbledon are much closer together and Wimbledon and
Morden are close too.


Updated (and fixed south District and Northern in general):http://www.fxfp.com/get/tube/2007/05/m_001.png


I like it - presumably it is roughly to scale? The Beck diagrammatic
approach is probably best for general use but it is very interesting
to see a more geographical approach. Not sure about the choice of
colour for the DLR though.

RPM

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"alex_t" wrote in message
oups.com...

South Wimbledon and Wimbledon are much closer together and Wimbledon and
Morden are close too.


Updated (and fixed south District and Northern in general):
http://www.fxfp.com/get/tube/2007/05/m_001.png

Also I made a special version of the map with tomorrow's disruptions
included (or excluded, to be exact):
http://www.fxfp.com/get/tube/2007/05/w_001.png

The Waterloo & City crosses under the District and Circle just west of
Blackfriars. Bank is if anything closer to Cannon Street than it is to
Monument.

Peter


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On May 5, 8:57 pm, "Peter Masson" wrote:
"alex_t" wrote in message

oups.com...

South Wimbledon and Wimbledon are much closer together and Wimbledon and
Morden are close too.


Updated (and fixed south District and Northern in general):
http://www.fxfp.com/get/tube/2007/05/m_001.png


Also I made a special version of the map with tomorrow's disruptions
included (or excluded, to be exact):
http://www.fxfp.com/get/tube/2007/05/w_001.png


The Waterloo & City crosses under the District and Circle just west of
Blackfriars. Bank is if anything closer to Cannon Street than it is to
Monument.

Peter


Does the little line on the stations (like between the bakerloo and
Jubilee at Bakers Street) indicate a same level interchange? If so,
Bakerloo - Victoria lines at Oxford Circus is same level, rather than
central - Vic.

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On May 5, 10:21 pm, Stu wrote:
On May 5, 8:57 pm, "Peter Masson" wrote:



"alex_t" wrote in message


roups.com...


South Wimbledon and Wimbledon are much closer together and Wimbledon and
Morden are close too.


Updated (and fixed south District and Northern in general):
http://www.fxfp.com/get/tube/2007/05/m_001.png


Also I made a special version of the map with tomorrow's disruptions
included (or excluded, to be exact):
http://www.fxfp.com/get/tube/2007/05/w_001.png


The Waterloo & City crosses under the District and Circle just west of
Blackfriars. Bank is if anything closer to Cannon Street than it is to
Monument.


Peter


Does the little line on the stations (like between the bakerloo and
Jubilee at Bakers Street) indicate a same level interchange? If so,
Bakerloo - Victoria lines at Oxford Circus is same level, rather than
central - Vic.


Also Royal Oak is about equi-distance between Paddington and
Westbourne Park

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"Stu" wrote in message
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On May 5, 8:57 pm, "Peter Masson" wrote:
"alex_t" wrote in message

oups.com...

South Wimbledon and Wimbledon are much closer together and
Wimbledon and Morden are close too.


Updated (and fixed south District and Northern in general):
http://www.fxfp.com/get/tube/2007/05/m_001.png


Also I made a special version of the map with tomorrow's disruptions
included (or excluded, to be exact):
http://www.fxfp.com/get/tube/2007/05/w_001.png


The Waterloo & City crosses under the District and Circle just west
of Blackfriars. Bank is if anything closer to Cannon Street than it
is to Monument.

Peter


Does the little line on the stations (like between the bakerloo and
Jubilee at Bakers Street) indicate a same level interchange? If so,
Bakerloo - Victoria lines at Oxford Circus is same level, rather than
central - Vic.


Central-District at Ealing Broadway is also same-level, as it is (and is
correctly shown) at Mile End. It's interesting that a deep level Tube
line has two widely-separated same-level interchanges with a sub-surface
line, despite not sharing tracks and having quite different histories.




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