"Joe Patrick" wrote in message
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I was just thinking of 3 ways to reduce vandalism and was wondering of the
practicality.
1) Link the on Board CCTV cameras to a central control room with controls
such as on train PA use (like Scotrail's remote Announcments)
2) Have another person on the train who can watch the cameras, provide
information and check tickets.
3) Probably not a very good idea, but do as they do in New York and
sometimes in Bristol. Use the older vehicles at night and save the better
ones for the day.

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There's something in the Daily Mail today about First Great Eastern
attempting to combat vandalism at unstaffed stations by playing classical
music through the pa system. And it supposedly works.....


Andrew

Andrew wrote:
"Joe Patrick" wrote in message
...
I was just thinking of 3 ways to reduce vandalism and was
wondering of the practicality.
1) Link the on Board CCTV cameras to a central control
room with controls such as on train PA use (like
Scotrail's remote Announcments) 2) Have another person on
the train who can watch the cameras, provide information
and check tickets. 3) Probably not a very good idea, but
do as they do in New York and sometimes in Bristol. Use
the older vehicles at night and save the better ones for
the day.

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There's something in the Daily Mail today about First Great
Eastern attempting to combat vandalism at unstaffed
stations by playing classical music through the pa system.
And it supposedly works.....


Andrew

Certainly it works in pubs and clubs, so why not on railway stations?
Generally people of the mentality to go around wrecking things are unlikely
to appreciate the subtleties of the classics.

In message , Andrew
writes

There's something in the Daily Mail today about First Great Eastern
attempting to combat vandalism at unstaffed stations by playing classical
music through the pa system. And it supposedly works.....

Last year's experiments in doing the same at Hammersmith and various
other London bus stations were apparently judged successful.

The vandals leave the premises because they don't want to listen to
"that rubbish" while everyone else feels more relaxed and a bit safer.
Of course, I don't suppose they played much Bartok or Schoenberg.

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Paul Terry

There's something in the Daily Mail today about First Great Eastern
attempting to combat vandalism at unstaffed stations by playing classical
music through the pa system. And it supposedly works.....

At Rochford i overheard some kids asking where that music was coming from so
they could smash the speakers.
Its wartime music

"Joe Patrick" wrote in message ...
There's something in the Daily Mail today about First Great Eastern
attempting to combat vandalism at unstaffed stations by playing classical
music through the pa system. And it supposedly works.....

At Rochford i overheard some kids asking where that music was coming from so
they could smash the speakers.
Its wartime music

On the topic of vandalism to trains, a West Yorkshire Metro Train 158
had to cover Transpennine services today because kids that had nothing
better to do on their holidays vandalised a Trans Pennine unit.

Buses are also targets for vandalism i'm afraid, one bus around our
area used to do a school service in the afternoon and then return to
normal passenger workings, unfortunately one day the kids upstairs got
bored and wrecked the bus, pulling out all the wiring, burning the
seats *for a laugh* and breaking anything else in sight short of the
windows. It's a good job one of the little brats didn't get
electrocuted when they were rearranging the electrics, otherwise it
would have been the poor drivers fault...as always...for shame.

Mat.

In article , Andrew
wrote:

"Joe Patrick" wrote in message
...
I was just thinking of 3 ways to reduce vandalism and was wondering
of the practicality.
1) Link the on Board CCTV cameras to a
central control room with controls such as on train PA use (like
Scotrail's remote Announcments) 2) Have another person on the train
who can watch the cameras, provide information and check tickets.
3) Probably not a very good idea, but do as they do in New York and
sometimes in Bristol. Use the older vehicles at night and save the
better ones for the day.


Part of the answer has to be to get the police to accept that it is
part of their job to police stations and trains, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER
PUBLIC SPACE.

Michael Bell

"David Hansen" wrote in message
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On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 12:01:20 +0000 (UTC) someone who may be
"Cast_Iron" wrote this:-

Generally people of the mentality to go around wrecking things are
unlikely
to appreciate the subtleties of the classics.

Wagner. The little devils will be even more surprised when avenging
angels swoop down and punish them [1] to the sound of the music,
which is ideal for such activities.

[1] cutting their bits off with a light sabre is probably considered
too extreme by some. Handcuffing them to a light standard for the
passengers to mock might be effective. Perhaps gluing their hands to
the platform would be considered too extreme by some.

Damned do-gooders, bring back the stocks and the pillory.

(Neil Williams) wrote in message ...
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 14:28:29 +0100, Paul Terry
wrote:

Last year's experiments in doing the same at Hammersmith and various
other London bus stations were apparently judged successful.

Hochbahn do/did it in Hamburg, too, at Hauptbahnhof-Nord on the U2.
Because the station is a huge, cavernous, deep-level affair with an
eerie, Russian feel about it (and two abandoned platforms still in
full view), the music gives it a really odd feel - not unpleasant,
though, and the local yoof weren't regulard so I guess it works there
too...

They have cctv on that station, too. It's great fun when the little
darlings are frightened out of their skins halfway down the escalator
riding on the handrail when a p.a. voice booms out "runter!" (get
off!).

Regards

Mike

"Michael Bell" wrote in message
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In article , Andrew
wrote:
"Joe Patrick" wrote in message
...
I was just thinking of 3 ways to reduce vandalism and was wondering
of the practicality.
1) Link the on Board CCTV cameras to a
central control room with controls such as on train PA use (like
Scotrail's remote Announcments) 2) Have another person on the train
who can watch the cameras, provide information and check tickets.
3) Probably not a very good idea, but do as they do in New York and
sometimes in Bristol. Use the older vehicles at night and save the
better ones for the day.


Part of the answer has to be to get the police to accept that it is
part of their job to police stations and trains, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER
PUBLIC SPACE.

Nah, you need more frequent and faster trains with no obligation to brake.
cheers,