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StuartJ June 1st 07 02:11 PM

Sarah Siddons in action
 
She passed Northwood southbound on the fast line about 15:00 today, at
the rear of some of the "steam on the Met" Mk1s. Anyone know what was
going on, and what (if anything) was at the front? And weren't all the
Mk1s sold off?

StuartJ


Jack Taylor June 1st 07 04:46 PM

Sarah Siddons in action
 
StuartJ wrote:
She passed Northwood southbound on the fast line about 15:00 today, at
the rear of some of the "steam on the Met" Mk1s. Anyone know what was
going on, and what (if anything) was at the front? And weren't all the
Mk1s sold off?


IIRC, one 4TC set and all of the "loose" Mk I and Mk II coaches have been
sold so far. I'm not sure if the other TC is up for sale or if LUL intend to
retain it - it would make sense to hang on to something to work with SS when
she's out and about (very rare, these days!).

I'm not sure if it is there yet but the Class 20 Society's 20 227 left
Barrow Hill on 31st by road, to go to Neasden - it may have been out on
test.

See also: http://tinyurl.com/2gtnry

or

http://www.tubechallenge.com/forum/v...bc1f 12b6a2b8



chunky munky June 1st 07 05:10 PM

Sarah Siddons in action
 
On Jun 1, 5:46 pm, "Jack Taylor" wrote:
StuartJ wrote:
She passed Northwood southbound on the fast line about 15:00 today, at
the rear of some of the "steam on the Met" Mk1s. Anyone know what was
going on, and what (if anything) was at the front? And weren't all the
Mk1s sold off?


IIRC, one 4TC set and all of the "loose" Mk I and Mk II coaches have been
sold so far. I'm not sure if the other TC is up for sale or if LUL intend to
retain it - it would make sense to hang on to something to work with SS when
she's out and about (very rare, these days!).

I'm not sure if it is there yet but the Class 20 Society's 20 227 left
Barrow Hill on 31st by road, to go to Neasden - it may have been out on
test.

See also: http://tinyurl.com/2gtnry

or

http://www.tubechallenge.com/forum/v...5&sid=8bcb1cec...


Sarah Siddons will formerly be given back to LU on Sunday 10 June.
There will be a special Metropolitan Line staff and VIP train on the
day too.


Adrian June 1st 07 05:30 PM

Sarah Siddons in action
 
StuartJ ) gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying :

She passed Northwood southbound on the fast line about 15:00 today, at
the rear of some of the "steam on the Met" Mk1s.


Right, this is prompting me to ask something that's been irregularly
popping up at the back of my mind for a while...

What HAS happened to "Steam on the Met"?

Have I just missed it the last few years, or has it slunk off?

chunky munky June 1st 07 05:49 PM

Sarah Siddons in action
 
On Jun 1, 6:30 pm, Adrian wrote:
StuartJ ) gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying :

She passed Northwood southbound on the fast line about 15:00 today, at
the rear of some of the "steam on the Met" Mk1s.


Right, this is prompting me to ask something that's been irregularly
popping up at the back of my mind for a while...

What HAS happened to "Steam on the Met"?

Have I just missed it the last few years, or has it slunk off?


It hasnt happened for the last few years (last was in 2000/1 I think.

Maybe it will be back before the PPP Upgrade is completed - for a
final send off...... :-)


[email protected] June 1st 07 05:55 PM

Sarah Siddons in action
 
Steam on the Met was a casualty of the LU/Infraco PPP split, plus with
a dose of elf n'safety thrown in for good measure no doubt.


Adrian June 1st 07 06:04 PM

Sarah Siddons in action
 
) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying
:

Steam on the Met was a casualty of the LU/Infraco PPP split, plus with
a dose of elf n'safety thrown in for good measure no doubt.


Boo! Hiss!

chunky munky June 1st 07 06:41 PM

Sarah Siddons in action
 
On Jun 1, 6:55 pm, wrote:
Steam on the Met was a casualty of the LU/Infraco PPP split, plus with
a dose of elf n'safety thrown in for good measure no doubt.




This isnt really a big part of it to be honest - after all it is
Metronet that have restored Sarah Siddons.

I reckon Steam on the Met will be back for one last time in a few
years.....


contrex June 2nd 07 11:09 AM

Sarah Siddons in action
 
On 1 Jun, 18:10, chunky munky wrote:

Sarah Siddons will formerly be given back to LU on Sunday 10 June.


I often see "formally" when people mean "formerly" but this is the
first time I've seen the opposite error.


Barry Salter June 2nd 07 05:28 PM

Sarah Siddons in action
 
Adrian wrote:

What HAS happened to "Steam on the Met"?

Have I just missed it the last few years, or has it slunk off?


Steam on the Met was last held in May 2000, being suspended after that
in preparation for the introduction of the PPP.

Having said that, LU's Safety Case (not currently available on the TfL
website, as it's being superseded) *did* allow for the operation of
"heritage" main line and underground stock and, indeed, the Traffic
Circular mentions a 10kph (sic) speed limit for steam locos over a
bridge near Wembley Park.

Cheers,

Barry

chunky munky June 2nd 07 05:53 PM

Sarah Siddons in action
 
On Jun 2, 12:09 pm, contrex wrote:
On 1 Jun, 18:10, chunky munky wrote:

Sarah Siddons will formerly be given back to LU on Sunday 10 June.


I often see "formally" when people mean "formerly" but this is the
first time I've seen the opposite error.




Oh yeah... Whooops!!!!!

First time for every thing!


Paul Corfield June 2nd 07 06:05 PM

Sarah Siddons in action
 
On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 18:28:33 +0100, Barry Salter
wrote:

Adrian wrote:

What HAS happened to "Steam on the Met"?

Have I just missed it the last few years, or has it slunk off?


Steam on the Met was last held in May 2000, being suspended after that
in preparation for the introduction of the PPP.

Having said that, LU's Safety Case (not currently available on the TfL
website, as it's being superseded) *did* allow for the operation of
"heritage" main line and underground stock and, indeed, the Traffic
Circular mentions a 10kph (sic) speed limit for steam locos over a
bridge near Wembley Park.


Steam on the Met (or any other line) was not suspended for PPP reasons.
Sure there was a huge debate about it but it was decided to reserve the
right to run heritage trains on the LU network. The main reason given
about a reluctance to run *steam* trains was the fact that the smoke and
ash caused complaints from the public, and trackside fires that
disrupted services and resulted in the fire brigade being called out.
That's certainly what I recall from the debates we had about it and the
policy papers that were put forward.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!




Frank Incense June 2nd 07 11:44 PM

Sarah Siddons in action
 

"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 18:28:33 +0100, Barry Salter
wrote:

Adrian wrote:

What HAS happened to "Steam on the Met"?

Have I just missed it the last few years, or has it slunk off?


Steam on the Met was last held in May 2000, being suspended after that
in preparation for the introduction of the PPP.

Having said that, LU's Safety Case (not currently available on the TfL
website, as it's being superseded) *did* allow for the operation of
"heritage" main line and underground stock and, indeed, the Traffic
Circular mentions a 10kph (sic) speed limit for steam locos over a
bridge near Wembley Park.


Steam on the Met (or any other line) was not suspended for PPP reasons.
Sure there was a huge debate about it but it was decided to reserve the
right to run heritage trains on the LU network. The main reason given
about a reluctance to run *steam* trains was the fact that the smoke and
ash caused complaints from the public, and trackside fires that
disrupted services and resulted in the fire brigade being called out.
That's certainly what I recall from the debates we had about it and the
policy papers that were put forward.
--
Paul C



Never had the "Leaves on the line" problem when steam was around!

Admits to working for London Underground!






Barry Salter June 3rd 07 01:52 PM

Sarah Siddons in action
 
Paul Corfield wrote:

Steam on the Met (or any other line) was not suspended for PPP reasons.


Well that was what was being said on the last day of Steam on the Met
2000. Along the lines of, "It was being suspended due to the massive
internal reorganisation at LU in preparation for PPP." (or words to that
effect, anyway).

Cheers,

Barry

[email protected] June 3rd 07 04:33 PM

Sarah Siddons in action
 
Well Andy Barr, who helped organise it for many years has said to the
LURS that, in effect, the "new world" means it will *never* return.


Kev June 5th 07 03:11 PM

Sarah Siddons in action
 
On Jun 1, 3:11 pm, StuartJ wrote:
She passed Northwood southbound on the fast line about 15:00 today, at
the rear of some of the "steam on the Met" Mk1s. Anyone know what was
going on, and what (if anything) was at the front? And weren't all the
Mk1s sold off?

StuartJ


Was in Neasden Depot at about 3.45 today (Tuesday)

Kevin



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