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MIG June 11th 07 05:07 PM

St Pancras Thameslink Platforms (Midland Rd)
 
On Jun 11, 6:06 pm, MIG wrote:

Also, platform 1 for ghost trains, but you could say that about
platform 8 at London Bridge as well.




I mean 7.


Roland Perry June 11th 07 05:26 PM

St Pancras Thameslink Platforms (Midland Rd)
 
In message .com, at
10:06:56 on Mon, 11 Jun 2007, MIG
remarked:
I'd say London Bridge had three really, in that three lead only to/
from Cannon Street and three (plus the passing track) lead only to/
from Charing Cross/Blackfriars.

I think you could argue for Clapham Junction having five distinct sets

Platform 2, only for Silverlink via Olympia

Platforms 3 - 6, only to/from Putney

Platforms 7 - 11, only to/from the Wimbledon direction

Platforms 12 - 15, only to/from Victoria and to/from Balham etc

Platforms 16 and 17, only for between Olympia and the south


But all the CJ platforms are next to one another, and you don't have to
do any special orientation to get from one to the other. Similarly for
the two "sets of" LB through platforms. What I'm looking for is places
where the sets of platforms are completely disjoint. For example, KX
main shed and KX suburban just about qualify, but Paddington main and
suburban probably don't.
--
Roland Perry

Matt Wheeler June 11th 07 05:29 PM

St Pancras Thameslink Platforms (Midland Rd)
 

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 16:11:50 on
Mon, 11 Jun 2007, Sky Rider remarked:
On a side note the new Thameslink station will (like the station
above) be called St Pancras International.


Will there be any other station in the UK with four distinct sets of
platforms (not counting LUL platforms)?

Waterloo perhaps has three: Main concourse, East (or is that
different station altogether) and Eurostar (even post E* they might
be entered separately). Manchester Piccadilly has two, as does
London Bridge; any other offers for three or more?


London Victoria with 3 sets ?
South Eastern Side, then, two sets of "south central" platforms, the
"middle" ones where Gatwick Express is located, and then the
high-numbered ones for longer distance Southern services to the coast
which are down past the escalators to Victoria Place.



Roland Perry June 11th 07 06:14 PM

St Pancras Thameslink Platforms (Midland Rd)
 
In message , at 18:29:53 on Mon, 11
Jun 2007, Matt Wheeler remarked:
London Victoria with 3 sets ?
South Eastern Side, then, two sets of "south central" platforms, the
"middle" ones where Gatwick Express is located, and then the
high-numbered ones for longer distance Southern services to the coast
which are down past the escalators to Victoria Place.


No, you can stand at the entrance to the concourse and see all the
platforms at once, and they are numbers intuitively from left to right.
Heading for any of them is simply a case of going a bit left, right or
straight ahead.
--
Roland Perry

Peter Lawrence June 11th 07 07:01 PM

St Pancras Thameslink Platforms (Midland Rd)
 
On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:11:50 GMT, Sky Rider
wrote:

Mr Thant wrote:
On Jun 11, 1:04 pm, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
Does anyone know if the St Pancras Thameslink platforms (which open at the
end of the year) will have direct access to the underground via the western
ticket hall?


No, they'll be essentially under the Midland Mainline station at the
northwest corner of the site. You'll come up from ground level just
underneath the current MML escalators, where you can head south
through St Pancras to the Western ticket hall, or (one day) east a bit
then down into the new tunnel to the Northern ticket hall.

There better be a very wide gateline then - at least at KCM you can
avoid the gates if you wish to use the nearby LUL station. Damn that
non-existant travelator!

On a side note the new Thameslink station will (like the station above)
be called St Pancras International.


Who has announced that?
--
Peter Lawrence

Peter Lawrence June 11th 07 07:11 PM

St Pancras Thameslink Platforms (Midland Rd)
 
On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:38:27 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message , at 16:11:50 on Mon,
11 Jun 2007, Sky Rider remarked:
On a side note the new Thameslink station will (like the station above)
be called St Pancras International.


Will there be any other station in the UK with four distinct sets of
platforms (not counting LUL platforms)?

Waterloo perhaps has three: Main concourse, East (or is that different
station altogether) and Eurostar (even post E* they might be entered
separately). Manchester Piccadilly has two, as does London Bridge; any
other offers for three or more?


Watford Junction - main, DC and St Albans platforms are distinct sets.

Possibly (London) Victoria and Glasgow Central - they both have a set
of terminal platforms out in the country relative yo yhe main
stations.
--
Peter Lawrence

asdf June 11th 07 07:12 PM

St Pancras Thameslink Platforms (Midland Rd)
 
On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 18:26:14 +0100, Roland Perry wrote:

But all the CJ platforms are next to one another, and you don't have to
do any special orientation to get from one to the other. Similarly for
the two "sets of" LB through platforms. What I'm looking for is places
where the sets of platforms are completely disjoint. For example, KX
main shed and KX suburban just about qualify, but Paddington main and
suburban probably don't.


At the northern end, KX platforms 8 (main) and 9 (suburban) are just
opposite faces of the same platform island.

Paul Scott June 11th 07 07:15 PM

St Pancras Thameslink Platforms (Midland Rd)
 

"Peter Lawrence" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:11:50 GMT, Sky Rider
wrote:


On a side note the new Thameslink station will (like the station above)
be called St Pancras International.


Who has announced that?


No one AFAICT - but it is implied quite strongly in FCC's current timetable
booklet, which clearly refers to their trains stopping at 'St Pancras
International' from Dec 9th. It was discussed in uk.transport.london a month
or so back.

"First Capital Connect's station at King's Cross Thameslink will
close in December 2007 and First Capital Connect will move to
the brand new St Pancras International complex.

"King's Cross Thameslink will close following the departure of the
last train on Saturday 8 December and the first train on Sunday
9 December will depart from the new St Pancras International,
which will be fully operational from that date."

http://www.firstcapitalconnect.co.uk...TLWeb%20LR.pdf

Paul




Roland Perry June 11th 07 07:29 PM

St Pancras Thameslink Platforms (Midland Rd)
 
In message , at 20:12:53 on
Mon, 11 Jun 2007, asdf remarked:
But all the CJ platforms are next to one another, and you don't have to
do any special orientation to get from one to the other. Similarly for
the two "sets of" LB through platforms. What I'm looking for is places
where the sets of platforms are completely disjoint. For example, KX
main shed and KX suburban just about qualify, but Paddington main and
suburban probably don't.


At the northern end, KX platforms 8 (main) and 9 (suburban) are just
opposite faces of the same platform island.


Yes, but the entrance to platforms 9-11 are in a different building to
the main shed. I agree it's borderline, but from the buffers of each set
of platforms you are unaware where the others are (if you were a
complete stranger).
--
Roland Perry

Jack Taylor June 11th 07 08:11 PM

St Pancras Thameslink Platforms (Midland Rd)
 
asdf wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 18:26:14 +0100, Roland Perry wrote:

But all the CJ platforms are next to one another, and you don't have
to do any special orientation to get from one to the other.
Similarly for the two "sets of" LB through platforms. What I'm
looking for is places where the sets of platforms are completely
disjoint. For example, KX main shed and KX suburban just about
qualify, but Paddington main and suburban probably don't.


At the northern end, KX platforms 8 (main) and 9 (suburban) are just
opposite faces of the same platform island.


Only for about fifteen or twenty feet. There's a wall between the two for
most of the length beyond the trainshed.




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