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asdf June 21st 07 01:04 AM

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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 23:17:40 +0100, Tom Anderson wrote:

I suppose the longest journey that is theoretically possible would be
Chesham to Upminster, not including the circle line.

Assuming no reversals or repetition of any stretch of route, I'll
venture Chesham to Uxbridge (via Baker Street, Liverpool Street, Tower
Hill, and Ealing Common) as being longer.

Surley these routes do not count because they involve changing lines?


The 'line' names designated by LUL are not indicative
of whether the actual tracks are (or are not) connected.


But the original question was about the longest 'line', so this is in fact
germane.


But this wasn't an attempt to answer the original question. It was a
digression onto the subject of what might be the longest journey
theoretically possible.

Recliner June 21st 07 09:22 AM

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"asdf" wrote in message

On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 23:17:40 +0100, Tom Anderson wrote:

I suppose the longest journey that is theoretically possible
would be Chesham to Upminster, not including the circle line.

Assuming no reversals or repetition of any stretch of route, I'll
venture Chesham to Uxbridge (via Baker Street, Liverpool Street,
Tower Hill, and Ealing Common) as being longer.

Surley these routes do not count because they involve changing
lines?

The 'line' names designated by LUL are not indicative
of whether the actual tracks are (or are not) connected.


But the original question was about the longest 'line', so this is
in fact germane.


But this wasn't an attempt to answer the original question. It was a
digression onto the subject of what might be the longest journey
theoretically possible.


Furthermore, LU occasionally changes the definition of a 'Line', so some
of the fantasy journeys invented in this thread could, in theory, become
possible on a single future line. For example, some of today's
Piccadilly Line was originally part of the (Metropolitan) District Line,
and the Circle + Hammersmith & City lines are due for a shakeup in a few
years time.



John B June 21st 07 09:49 AM

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On 21 Jun, 10:22, "Recliner" wrote:
Furthermore, LU occasionally changes the definition of a 'Line', so some
of the fantasy journeys invented in this thread could, in theory, become
possible on a single future line. For example, some of today's
Piccadilly Line was originally part of the (Metropolitan) District Line,
and the Circle + Hammersmith & City lines are due for a shakeup in a few
years time.


Indeed, Amersham to Barking could be a regular reality when the
service patterns change...

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org


Boltar June 21st 07 11:36 AM

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On 21 Jun, 10:49, John B wrote:
On 21 Jun, 10:22, "Recliner" wrote:

Furthermore, LU occasionally changes the definition of a 'Line', so some
of the fantasy journeys invented in this thread could, in theory, become
possible on a single future line. For example, some of today's
Piccadilly Line was originally part of the (Metropolitan) District Line,
and the Circle + Hammersmith & City lines are due for a shakeup in a few
years time.


Indeed, Amersham to Barking could be a regular reality when the
service patterns change...


Chesham to Upminster is the longest trip a train could physically take
without reversing or going in circles AFAIK.

B2003



John B June 21st 07 11:38 AM

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On 21 Jun, 12:36, Boltar wrote:
Indeed, Amersham to Barking could be a regular reality when the
service patterns change...


Chesham to Upminster is the longest trip a train could physically take
without reversing or going in circles AFAIK.


True, but rather less likely to happen.

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org


John Rowland June 21st 07 11:55 AM

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Boltar wrote:

Chesham to Upminster is the longest trip a train could physically take
without reversing or going in circles AFAIK.


As somebody already suggested, Chesham - Aldgate - Tower Hill - Ealing
Common - Uxbridge is much further.



Boltar June 21st 07 01:18 PM

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On 21 Jun, 12:55, "John Rowland"
wrote:
Boltar wrote:

Chesham to Upminster is the longest trip a train could physically take
without reversing or going in circles AFAIK.


As somebody already suggested, Chesham - Aldgate - Tower Hill - Ealing
Common - Uxbridge is much further.


Thats effectively going in a circle. Chesham and Upminster are the
furthest apart you could go in a single trip (and possibly the
furthest stations apart full stop).

B2003


Tom Anderson June 21st 07 01:32 PM

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On Thu, 21 Jun 2007, Boltar wrote:

On 21 Jun, 12:55, "John Rowland"
wrote:
Boltar wrote:

Chesham to Upminster is the longest trip a train could physically take
without reversing or going in circles AFAIK.


As somebody already suggested, Chesham - Aldgate - Tower Hill - Ealing
Common - Uxbridge is much further.


Are there crossovers that allow you to change lines at Mile End? If so,
could you, given the right sort of train, do Chesham - Aldgate East - Mile
End - Leytonstone - round the loop - Leytonstone - Aldgate East - Tower
Hill - Ealing Common - Uxbridge? Or does the Aldgate East to Leytonstone
bit make it count as a circular route?

Thats effectively going in a circle.


Boltar, have you ever seen a circle? If so, would you care to explain the
resemblance of the above route to one?

tom

--
i'm prepared to do anything as long as someone else works out how to do
it and gives me simple instructions... -- Sean

Tom Anderson June 21st 07 01:36 PM

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On Thu, 21 Jun 2007, asdf wrote:

On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 23:17:40 +0100, Tom Anderson wrote:

I suppose the longest journey that is theoretically possible would
be Chesham to Upminster, not including the circle line.

Assuming no reversals or repetition of any stretch of route, I'll
venture Chesham to Uxbridge (via Baker Street, Liverpool Street,
Tower Hill, and Ealing Common) as being longer.

Surley these routes do not count because they involve changing lines?

The 'line' names designated by LUL are not indicative of whether the
actual tracks are (or are not) connected.


But the original question was about the longest 'line', so this is in
fact germane.


But this wasn't an attempt to answer the original question. It was a
digression onto the subject of what might be the longest journey
theoretically possible.


This was evidently not made clear to the OP!

tom

--
i'm prepared to do anything as long as someone else works out how to do
it and gives me simple instructions... -- Sean

Olof Lagerkvist June 21st 07 01:38 PM

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John Rowland wrote:

Boltar wrote:

Chesham to Upminster is the longest trip a train could physically take
without reversing or going in circles AFAIK.



As somebody already suggested, Chesham - Aldgate - Tower Hill - Ealing
Common - Uxbridge is much further.



If you count such circular routes we can take for example Upminster -
Earl's Court - over to Piccadilly Line tracks - round the Heathrow loop
- back to District tracks - Earl's Court - Aldgate - Chesham. This can
as far as I can see be done without going over the same track twice or
crossing it's own route (if it is done in this direction, it will cross
tracks already used if it is being done in the opposit direction).

--
Olof Lagerkvist
ICQ: 724451
Web: http://here.is/olof


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