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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 23:17:40 +0100, Tom Anderson wrote:
I suppose the longest journey that is theoretically possible would be Chesham to Upminster, not including the circle line. Assuming no reversals or repetition of any stretch of route, I'll venture Chesham to Uxbridge (via Baker Street, Liverpool Street, Tower Hill, and Ealing Common) as being longer. Surley these routes do not count because they involve changing lines? The 'line' names designated by LUL are not indicative of whether the actual tracks are (or are not) connected. But the original question was about the longest 'line', so this is in fact germane. But this wasn't an attempt to answer the original question. It was a digression onto the subject of what might be the longest journey theoretically possible. |
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 23:17:40 +0100, Tom Anderson wrote: I suppose the longest journey that is theoretically possible would be Chesham to Upminster, not including the circle line. Assuming no reversals or repetition of any stretch of route, I'll venture Chesham to Uxbridge (via Baker Street, Liverpool Street, Tower Hill, and Ealing Common) as being longer. Surley these routes do not count because they involve changing lines? The 'line' names designated by LUL are not indicative of whether the actual tracks are (or are not) connected. But the original question was about the longest 'line', so this is in fact germane. But this wasn't an attempt to answer the original question. It was a digression onto the subject of what might be the longest journey theoretically possible. Furthermore, LU occasionally changes the definition of a 'Line', so some of the fantasy journeys invented in this thread could, in theory, become possible on a single future line. For example, some of today's Piccadilly Line was originally part of the (Metropolitan) District Line, and the Circle + Hammersmith & City lines are due for a shakeup in a few years time. |
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On 21 Jun, 10:22, "Recliner" wrote:
Furthermore, LU occasionally changes the definition of a 'Line', so some of the fantasy journeys invented in this thread could, in theory, become possible on a single future line. For example, some of today's Piccadilly Line was originally part of the (Metropolitan) District Line, and the Circle + Hammersmith & City lines are due for a shakeup in a few years time. Indeed, Amersham to Barking could be a regular reality when the service patterns change... -- John Band john at johnband dot org www.johnband.org |
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On 21 Jun, 10:49, John B wrote:
On 21 Jun, 10:22, "Recliner" wrote: Furthermore, LU occasionally changes the definition of a 'Line', so some of the fantasy journeys invented in this thread could, in theory, become possible on a single future line. For example, some of today's Piccadilly Line was originally part of the (Metropolitan) District Line, and the Circle + Hammersmith & City lines are due for a shakeup in a few years time. Indeed, Amersham to Barking could be a regular reality when the service patterns change... Chesham to Upminster is the longest trip a train could physically take without reversing or going in circles AFAIK. B2003 |
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On 21 Jun, 12:36, Boltar wrote:
Indeed, Amersham to Barking could be a regular reality when the service patterns change... Chesham to Upminster is the longest trip a train could physically take without reversing or going in circles AFAIK. True, but rather less likely to happen. -- John Band john at johnband dot org www.johnband.org |
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Boltar wrote:
Chesham to Upminster is the longest trip a train could physically take without reversing or going in circles AFAIK. As somebody already suggested, Chesham - Aldgate - Tower Hill - Ealing Common - Uxbridge is much further. |
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On 21 Jun, 12:55, "John Rowland"
wrote: Boltar wrote: Chesham to Upminster is the longest trip a train could physically take without reversing or going in circles AFAIK. As somebody already suggested, Chesham - Aldgate - Tower Hill - Ealing Common - Uxbridge is much further. Thats effectively going in a circle. Chesham and Upminster are the furthest apart you could go in a single trip (and possibly the furthest stations apart full stop). B2003 |
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On Thu, 21 Jun 2007, Boltar wrote:
On 21 Jun, 12:55, "John Rowland" wrote: Boltar wrote: Chesham to Upminster is the longest trip a train could physically take without reversing or going in circles AFAIK. As somebody already suggested, Chesham - Aldgate - Tower Hill - Ealing Common - Uxbridge is much further. Are there crossovers that allow you to change lines at Mile End? If so, could you, given the right sort of train, do Chesham - Aldgate East - Mile End - Leytonstone - round the loop - Leytonstone - Aldgate East - Tower Hill - Ealing Common - Uxbridge? Or does the Aldgate East to Leytonstone bit make it count as a circular route? Thats effectively going in a circle. Boltar, have you ever seen a circle? If so, would you care to explain the resemblance of the above route to one? tom -- i'm prepared to do anything as long as someone else works out how to do it and gives me simple instructions... -- Sean |
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On Thu, 21 Jun 2007, asdf wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 23:17:40 +0100, Tom Anderson wrote: I suppose the longest journey that is theoretically possible would be Chesham to Upminster, not including the circle line. Assuming no reversals or repetition of any stretch of route, I'll venture Chesham to Uxbridge (via Baker Street, Liverpool Street, Tower Hill, and Ealing Common) as being longer. Surley these routes do not count because they involve changing lines? The 'line' names designated by LUL are not indicative of whether the actual tracks are (or are not) connected. But the original question was about the longest 'line', so this is in fact germane. But this wasn't an attempt to answer the original question. It was a digression onto the subject of what might be the longest journey theoretically possible. This was evidently not made clear to the OP! tom -- i'm prepared to do anything as long as someone else works out how to do it and gives me simple instructions... -- Sean |
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John Rowland wrote:
Boltar wrote: Chesham to Upminster is the longest trip a train could physically take without reversing or going in circles AFAIK. As somebody already suggested, Chesham - Aldgate - Tower Hill - Ealing Common - Uxbridge is much further. If you count such circular routes we can take for example Upminster - Earl's Court - over to Piccadilly Line tracks - round the Heathrow loop - back to District tracks - Earl's Court - Aldgate - Chesham. This can as far as I can see be done without going over the same track twice or crossing it's own route (if it is done in this direction, it will cross tracks already used if it is being done in the opposit direction). -- Olof Lagerkvist ICQ: 724451 Web: http://here.is/olof |
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