seeing the other's view
 

... maybe a complete highway network provided at a cost way beyond
anything HGV taxes run to has something to do with it.

Utter bollox. I await the day all the road generated taxes are actually
spent on the road network, if this ever occured we would have a system
second to none, instead the surplus is frittered away on bottomless pits
like the national trainset.


Ahh... naughty naughty do I detect a little sleight of hand here like
including all road generated taxes when we're only discussing HGV
generated taxes.

I own a car and nowhere does it explain that my petrol duty or road
fund licence is to be set at a level that can then provide spending on
accommodating HGVs.

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allan tracy wrote:
... maybe a complete highway network provided at a cost way beyond
anything HGV taxes run to has something to do with it.
Utter bollox. I await the day all the road generated taxes are actually
spent on the road network, if this ever occured we would have a system
second to none, instead the surplus is frittered away on bottomless pits
like the national trainset.


Ahh... naughty naughty do I detect a little sleight of hand here like
including all road generated taxes when we're only discussing HGV
generated taxes.

I own a car and nowhere does it explain that my petrol duty or road
fund licence is to be set at a level that can then provide spending on
accommodating HGVs.

at 8 mpg and heavy ved there is no subsidy, if anything it's the other
way around.

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"NM" wrote in message
...
allan tracy wrote:
... maybe a complete highway network provided at a cost way beyond
anything HGV taxes run to has something to do with it.
Utter bollox. I await the day all the road generated taxes are actually
spent on the road network, if this ever occured we would have a system
second to none, instead the surplus is frittered away on bottomless pits
like the national trainset.


Ahh... naughty naughty do I detect a little sleight of hand here like
including all road generated taxes when we're only discussing HGV
generated taxes.

I own a car and nowhere does it explain that my petrol duty or road
fund licence is to be set at a level that can then provide spending on
accommodating HGVs.

at 8 mpg and heavy ved there is no subsidy, if anything it's the other way
around.

Evidence?

Please don't simply state the anount of VED a lorry pays, it was reduced a
few years ago you may recall.

seeing the other's view
 

Brimstone wrote:
"NM" wrote in message
...
allan tracy wrote:
... maybe a complete highway network provided at a cost way beyond
anything HGV taxes run to has something to do with it.
Utter bollox. I await the day all the road generated taxes are actually
spent on the road network, if this ever occured we would have a system
second to none, instead the surplus is frittered away on bottomless pits
like the national trainset.

Ahh... naughty naughty do I detect a little sleight of hand here like
including all road generated taxes when we're only discussing HGV
generated taxes.

I own a car and nowhere does it explain that my petrol duty or road
fund licence is to be set at a level that can then provide spending on
accommodating HGVs.

at 8 mpg and heavy ved there is no subsidy, if anything it's the other way
around.

Evidence?

Please don't simply state the anount of VED a lorry pays, it was reduced a
few years ago you may recall.


Back of a fag packet calculations show annual tax take from HGV's about
10 billion pounds (VED + Fuel tax) expenditure on UK road system is ???

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"NM" wrote in message
...
Brimstone wrote:
"NM" wrote in message
...
allan tracy wrote:
... maybe a complete highway network provided at a cost way beyond
anything HGV taxes run to has something to do with it.
Utter bollox. I await the day all the road generated taxes are
actually
spent on the road network, if this ever occured we would have a system
second to none, instead the surplus is frittered away on bottomless
pits
like the national trainset.

Ahh... naughty naughty do I detect a little sleight of hand here like
including all road generated taxes when we're only discussing HGV
generated taxes.

I own a car and nowhere does it explain that my petrol duty or road
fund licence is to be set at a level that can then provide spending on
accommodating HGVs.

at 8 mpg and heavy ved there is no subsidy, if anything it's the other
way around.

Evidence?

Please don't simply state the anount of VED a lorry pays, it was reduced
a few years ago you may recall.
Back of a fag packet calculations show annual tax take from HGV's about 10
billion pounds (VED + Fuel tax) expenditure on UK road system is ???

When your working it out (not forgetting the cash spent by local authorities
on loal roads some of which comes from Counil Tax), don't forget all the
associated costs will you?

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Brimstone wrote:
"NM" wrote in message
...
Brimstone wrote:
"NM" wrote in message
...
allan tracy wrote:
... maybe a complete highway network provided at a cost way beyond
anything HGV taxes run to has something to do with it.
Utter bollox. I await the day all the road generated taxes are
actually
spent on the road network, if this ever occured we would have a system
second to none, instead the surplus is frittered away on bottomless
pits
like the national trainset.

Ahh... naughty naughty do I detect a little sleight of hand here like
including all road generated taxes when we're only discussing HGV
generated taxes.

I own a car and nowhere does it explain that my petrol duty or road
fund licence is to be set at a level that can then provide spending on
accommodating HGVs.

at 8 mpg and heavy ved there is no subsidy, if anything it's the other
way around.
Evidence?

Please don't simply state the anount of VED a lorry pays, it was reduced
a few years ago you may recall.
Back of a fag packet calculations show annual tax take from HGV's about 10
billion pounds (VED + Fuel tax) expenditure on UK road system is ???

When your working it out (not forgetting the cash spent by local authorities
on loal roads some of which comes from Counil Tax), don't forget all the
associated costs will you?


What makes you think I'm going to work it out.

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On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:44:00 +0100, "Brimstone"
wrote:

Why?

Because it would cost a lot more than using road vehicles.

Neil

--
Neil Williams
Put my first name before the at to reply.

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"NM" wrote in message
...
Brimstone wrote:
"NM" wrote in message
...
Brimstone wrote:
"NM" wrote in message
...
allan tracy wrote:
... maybe a complete highway network provided at a cost way beyond
anything HGV taxes run to has something to do with it.
Utter bollox. I await the day all the road generated taxes are
actually
spent on the road network, if this ever occured we would have a
system
second to none, instead the surplus is frittered away on bottomless
pits
like the national trainset.

Ahh... naughty naughty do I detect a little sleight of hand here like
including all road generated taxes when we're only discussing HGV
generated taxes.

I own a car and nowhere does it explain that my petrol duty or road
fund licence is to be set at a level that can then provide spending
on
accommodating HGVs.

at 8 mpg and heavy ved there is no subsidy, if anything it's the other
way around.
Evidence?

Please don't simply state the anount of VED a lorry pays, it was
reduced a few years ago you may recall.
Back of a fag packet calculations show annual tax take from HGV's about
10 billion pounds (VED + Fuel tax) expenditure on UK road system is ???

When your working it out (not forgetting the cash spent by local
authorities on loal roads some of which comes from Counil Tax), don't
forget all the associated costs will you?
What makes you think I'm going to work it out.

You've already started, or like so many in road haulage, you give up when
things get difficult?

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"Neil Williams" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:44:00 +0100, "Brimstone"
wrote:

Why?

Because it would cost a lot more than using road vehicles.

Evidence?

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"Conor" wrote in message
...
In article , NM says...
Brimstone wrote:


The year before 21 cyclists were killed, nine involved lorries and in
2004
four of eight accidents in which cyclists were killed involved lorries.




To get a balance here we need to know how many lorry drivers were killed
by cyclists in the same period. :-)

No idea but I suspect a few had a cardio episode from cycling.

or maybe more had cardio episodes from not cycling ..