On 9 Jul, 23:25, JL wrote:


It is possible to complete that journey using NR - Epsom Clapham
Junction London Bridge Thameslink to Kings Cross Potters Bar. So
I suppose one was +Tube and the other wasn't.

Finsbury Park does not have tube barriers, so I suppose that could
have something to do with it. There's a similar post of a person who
went from Paddington(?) to Clapham Junction without the + using tube
one way, but wouldn't allow him through the barriers the other way.

I suspect the non-tube route is actually EpsomCLJWillesden
JctHighbury&IsFinsbury ParkPotters Bar. Or would that be 'not
London'?

There is a London Terminals to Brentford fare, route Any P. There is
also a fare route 'Hackney Wick' Work that one out!

Ken

On 10 Jul, 00:14, Ken wrote:

There is a London Terminals to Brentford fare, route Any P. There is
also a fare route 'Hackney Wick' Work that one out!

Ken

Looks like NRE are anticipating the arrival of the ELL extension a
little early

On Mon, 9 Jul 2007, Ken wrote:

On 9 Jul, 23:25, JL wrote:


It is possible to complete that journey using NR - Epsom Clapham
Junction London Bridge Thameslink to Kings Cross Potters Bar. So
I suppose one was +Tube and the other wasn't.

I suspect the non-tube route is actually EpsomCLJWillesden
JctHighbury&IsFinsbury ParkPotters Bar. Or would that be 'not
London'?

There is also a fare route 'Hackney Wick' Work that one out!

....

Woolwich Ferry and some fond reminiscences about the NLL?

tom

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I've posted this before, but if you buy a ticket at Paddington to
Clapham Junction, it gets printed as a "London Terminals" to Clapham
Junction, price £2.10 (£1.40 with a goldcard), and it works in the
tube barriers at Paddington and Waterloo.

The screen specifically states "London Paddington to Clapham
Junction", route "any permitted", for the avoidance of any doubt. No
maltese cross though.

On 9 Jul, 13:59, wrote:
My son bought a cheap day return ticket yesterday from Epsom to
Potter's Bar. He bought it from the Southern machine at Epsom
station. The outward journey (Epsom-Vauxhall-Finsbury Pk-Potter's
Bar) was uneventful, but on the way back, the barrier at Vauxhall
Underground would not let him out. He showed his ticket to the
attendant, who said it was not valid for the tube journey -- though
she let him out without asking him to pay.

Have just found this at http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/
stations_destinations/connections/crossing_london.html:

"Rail tickets for journeys routed via London are valid for transfer by
Underground or Thameslink between London terminals at no additional
cost. For example, a Brighton to Leeds ticket is valid on London
Underground between Victoria and Kings Cross."

I don't think his ticket actually said 'via London', but I can't see
how else one could go (other than via Guildford, Reading, Coventry,
Leicester and Peterborough, which is undoubtedly not a permitted
route). Granted he could have used the (much slower) Thameslink
route, but then the example they give - Brighton to Leeds - could do
so too, and perhaps even more plausibly so.

The ticket seems therefore to have been printed and coded contrary to
what it says on the website. Whether it was also priced wrongly is
also an interesting question. A CDR from Ewell East to Hadley Wood -
just one station inwards from each endpoint, but both in zone 6 - is
£6.70 (without railcard) as opposed to £14.40 for Epsom to Potter's
Bar (both taken from the NR website).

I also note the curious statement that "Please be aware, you may need
to buy separate tickets for this journey, as a through ticket may not
be available." All in all, a bit of a mess.

PeterCS

stan5001 writes:

The screen specifically states "London Paddington to Clapham
Junction", route "any permitted", for the avoidance of any doubt. No
maltese cross though.

The only way of doing that by NR with no tube, no doubling back and no
inter-station walk is via GWML to Reading and then SWT to Clapham Jn.

I'll leave it to someone else to try doing a break of journey in
Reading with that ticket!

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:44:05 +0100, stan5001 wrote:

I'll leave it to someone else to try doing a break of journey in
Reading with that ticket!

Sounds like a challenge. Any Barriers at Reading?



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On Jul 10, 5:55 pm, Fig wrote:
Sounds like a challenge.

It's probably not valid, because the ticket actually has "London
Terminals" printed on it, not Paddington. Acton Main Line (first
station after Paddington) to Clapham Junction via Reading is probably
legit, though NRE is having none of it.

Any Barriers at Reading?

Yes.

U

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On Tue, 10 Jul 2007, Fig wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:44:05 +0100, stan5001 wrote:

I'll leave it to someone else to try doing a break of journey in
Reading with that ticket!

Sounds like a challenge. Any Barriers at Reading?

Yes. Thousands of 'em.

CORE [1] also thinks this (Paddington to Reading via Slough, Reading to
Clapham Junction via Staines) is the shortest route, and puts it at 75:27
miles.

tom

[1] http://www.davros.org/rail/routeing-guide.html

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