On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 12:50:20 +0100, "Clive D. W. Feather"
wrote:

In article , Paul Scott
writes
This map was pointed out recently on ORR site, gives a fair idea of the
impact of crossrail on the existing lines...

http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/upload/pd...le_line_GW.pdf

It would appear that a turntable is going to be added to North Pole
Depot!

I also note that the new eastern access to North Pole is curiously
indirect.


The turntable was a recommendation of a Commons Select Committee, to
replace the existing OOC turntable - presumbaly to turn steam engines
which will be based at North Pole !

The absence of any direct connection towards Paddington is a nonsense,
seeing that quite a lot of charter ECS trains will be heading that way
presumably. Trains will now have to reverse twice, the second time on
one of the running lines.

Also there is no direct westbound connection off the flyover onto the
Greenford line without using the Crossrail lines.

David

"David Randles" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 12:50:20 +0100, "Clive D. W. Feather"
wrote:

In article , Paul Scott
writes
This map was pointed out recently on ORR site, gives a fair idea of the
impact of crossrail on the existing lines...

http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/upload/pd...le_line_GW.pdf

It would appear that a turntable is going to be added to North Pole
Depot!

I also note that the new eastern access to North Pole is curiously
indirect.


The turntable was a recommendation of a Commons Select Committee, to
replace the existing OOC turntable - presumbaly to turn steam engines
which will be based at North Pole !

The absence of any direct connection towards Paddington is a nonsense,
seeing that quite a lot of charter ECS trains will be heading that way
presumably. Trains will now have to reverse twice, the second time on
one of the running lines.

Also there is no direct westbound connection off the flyover onto the
Greenford line without using the Crossrail lines.

David


I suspect the turntable sees more use in turning HST power cars, like the
one at Neville Hill. Do any other HST depots have these?
Brian

On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 10:38:08 -0700, Mr Thant
mangled uncounted
electrons thus:

On Aug 6, 4:46 pm, "Clive D. W. Feather" cl...@on-the-
train.demon.co.uk wrote:
Obviously you want access off the flyover, and that will require use of
the headshunt. But why force the double reverse on anything coming out
of the south side of Paddy?

The layout at Shenfield is equally curious:
http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/upload/pd...le_line_GE.pdf

Why is the Southend down diveunder connected solely to the Crossrail
up platform?

Because Crossrail will start from Shenfield, with no direct
connections beyond that point? (Just a guess, please note!)

That's an interesting diagram, to be sure; Crossrail running on
the existing 'Metro' route, which currently timetables at a train
every 10 minutes between Shenfield and Liverpool Street. And it
should be interesting to see how they intend to add another
platform, given that the station is built on an embankment... I
make that what would presumably be platform 6 is built over the
station booking hall and the main road! (For those who don't know
Shenfield, it currently has 5 platforms; the new one is the one
at the top, nearest the 'Shenfield Station' label...)

Can you spell 'disruption'? ^_-

snip

Martin D. Pay
Fascinating... @_@

In article , Martin D. Pay
writes
And it
should be interesting to see how they intend to add another
platform, given that the station is built on an embankment... I
make that what would presumably be platform 6 is built over the
station booking hall and the main road!

Not so. If you look on Google Earth, you'll see that the existing
platform 5 extends 200m to the west of the present station canopy,
ending about 40m east of the point where the second crossover meets the
new loop line. Strengthening the embankment enough for a platform that
only extends to the canopy should be easy enough.

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