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On 14 Oct, 19:24, wrote:
Hello, I'm the photographer who took the photos of the Euston tunnels, I must say a lot of completely wrong information has been written in this post. I've put together a page which will hopefully clear things up, just to be clear things up. http://www.robertsphotos.co.uk/desktop.htm Cheers Robert Stainforth Thanks, that clears a lot of things up. Do you think that anyone anywhere would have a photograph of the island platform with the stairs from the bridges? Your 1908 platform photo is quite amusing - I like the way there's a lamppost down there and it looks like toy trains. But I especially like the fact that it looks like there's a tardis at the bottom of the stairs. From the old photo of the Charing Cross branch platforms, it looks like they must have rebuilt that end of the station completely. When they built the victoria line, and the new entrance to the platform, how did they build the stairs down onto the platforms while keeping the old entrance up to the platforms open? I suppose it would make sense if the stairs down onto the southbound platform were built first, and used as an exit as well while they built the other staircase? But that would only work if the interchange passage up to the Charing Cross branch only went onto the northbound platform; the picture does seem to suggest this, but I was wondering why they built the interchange passage like this in the first place? The other thing I notice is that in your photograph of the top of the interchange stairs, the wall infront seems to be vertically floor to ceiling, and doesn't seem to have any stairs coming down on top of it; this suggests that its quite a long way behind the current entrance to the platform - far back enough to be completely behind the stairs. But the old photgraph seems to suggest that the old stairs are right next to the platform - so they must have blocked up quite a bit of the platform between where the old stairs end and where the new stairs reach the current end of the platform? Its a bit as if where the double dark tile ring is (with 3.4-5 on the wall) in the old photograph is equal to where the man with blue jeans is in the new photograph, and the bits of the platform beyond the double dark tile ring are now blocked off for some reason. |
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On Oct 14, 9:21 pm, lonelytraveller
wrote: On 14 Oct, 19:24, wrote: Well spotted. I'm sure they built the tunnel back, it would have originally gone to the end of the yellow lines. They built another new passenger tunnel in the southbound platform and would have used that until the the northbound exit was completed. I go through the station daily and very slowly overtime have built up a picture of the layout, their is more down there and other exits into the new part of the station which I did have access to. The station manager didn't seen too be bothered about H&S, the Charing Cross, Euston and Hampstead Railway tunnels where very dark and I could very easily trapped and fallen to my death in the old lift shaft. The other tunnels were safe though. Rob |
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On Oct 14, 9:40 pm, wrote:
On Oct 14, 9:21 pm, lonelytraveller wrote: On 14 Oct, 19:24, wrote: Well spotted. I'm sure they built the tunnel back, it would have originally gone to the end of the yellow lines. They built another new passenger tunnel in the southbound platform and would have used that until the the northbound exit was completed. I go through the station daily and very slowly overtime have built up a picture of the layout, their is more down there and other exits into the new part of the station which I did have access to. The station manager didn't seen too be bothered about H&S, the Charing Cross, Euston and Hampstead Railway tunnels where very dark and I could very easily trapped and fallen to my death in the old lift shaft. The other tunnels were safe though. Rob Sorry about the poor spelling!! |
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On Oct 14, 7:24 pm, wrote:
On Sep 30, 7:18 pm, wrote: I've just seen this website -http://winstainforth10.foliosnap.com/?goto=eustonstationabandonedtunn... with pictures of some of the abandoned bits of Euston. But there's one photo -http://winstainforth10.foliosnap.com/?goto=eustonstationabandonedtunn... - which says that there was originally a bridge onto the old island platform for the city branch. I've been to euston, and the "other side" of that photo is half way along the platform. Supposedly its the original way onto the platforms rather than the 1910s-1960s entrance at the west end of the platform, which was shared with the Charing Cross branch. The only photos I've seen of the island platform are ones showing the stairs at the west end of the platform. Does anyone have any old photos/postcards showing the bridge? Hello, I'm the photographer who took the photos of the Euston tunnels, I must say a lot of completely wrong information has been written in this post. I've put together a page which will hopefully clear things up, just to be clear things up. http://www.robertsphotos.co.uk/desktop.htm Cheers Robert Stainforth My reply seems to have disappeared in the ether. I was just saying that your first photo shows the second hold in the groove that I was talking about, quite near to the other hole. That groove is visible in the shot where you suggest that one bridge can be seen, between the visible hole and the structure you refer to. I am sure that whatever the structure is, it is not associated with the passageways and is much further east. |
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On 14 Oct, 19:24, wrote:
Well spotted. I'm sure they built the tunnel back, it would have originally gone to the end of the yellow lines. I mean that the photo's seem to imply the opposite - that the tunnel originally went beyond where the end wall is now, and they've filled- in a bit. The old photo indicates that the platform ended next to the top of the steps, but the photo of the top of the steps as it is now shows a vertical wall there. That wall must be where the platform used to end, but since it is a vertical wall, and not steps coming down, it must be a bit behind where the current entrance steps coming down are - so the platform must originally have been longer. |
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On 14 Oct, 21:21, lonelytraveller
wrote: On 14 Oct, 19:24, wrote: Hello, I'm the photographer who took the photos of the Euston tunnels, I've put together a page which will hopefully clear things up, just to be clear things up. Your 1908 platform photo is quite amusing - I like the way there's a lamppost down there and it looks like toy trains. But I especially like the fact that it looks like there's a tardis at the bottom of the stairs. Thinking about this, what exactly is that tardis-like object at the bottom of the stairs, and why do two men seem to be coming from the inside of it? |
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In message .com,
lonelytraveller writes Thinking about this, what exactly is that tardis-like object at the bottom of the stairs, I'd say it was a ticket inspection booth. A clearer version of the same photo appears in the Capital Transport book on the Northern line, and shows a closed gate at the foot of the stairs left of the booth. and why do two men seem to be coming from the inside of it? Ticket inspectors, I guess - of course, the whole photo is specially posed for the cameraman. -- Paul Terry |
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On Oct 14, 7:24 pm, wrote:
On Sep 30, 7:18 pm, wrote: I've just seen this website -http://winstainforth10.foliosnap.com/?goto=eustonstationabandonedtunn... with pictures of some of the abandoned bits of Euston. But there's one photo -http://winstainforth10.foliosnap.com/?goto=eustonstationabandonedtunn... - which says that there was originally a bridge onto the old island platform for the city branch. I've been to euston, and the "other side" of that photo is half way along the platform. Supposedly its the original way onto the platforms rather than the 1910s-1960s entrance at the west end of the platform, which was shared with the Charing Cross branch. The only photos I've seen of the island platform are ones showing the stairs at the west end of the platform. Does anyone have any old photos/postcards showing the bridge? Hello, I'm the photographer who took the photos of the Euston tunnels, I must say a lot of completely wrong information has been written in this post. I've put together a page which will hopefully clear things up, just to be clear things up. http://www.robertsphotos.co.uk/desktop.htm Cheers Robert Stainforth Thanks; this confirms a lot. The first of your pictures shows the second hole quite close to the first, and shows it to be in the groove I referred to elsewhere. In the photo where you say one of the bridges can be seen, the structure is much further from the hole that can be seen. The groove which is hiding the second hole can be seen, although the hole can't, so I am still sure that that structure is not a bridge associated with the passageways in question. |
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On Oct 15, 7:54 pm, MIG wrote:
On Oct 14, 7:24 pm, wrote: On Sep 30, 7:18 pm, wrote: I've just seen this website -http://winstainforth10.foliosnap.com/?goto=eustonstationabandonedtunn... with pictures of some of the abandoned bits of Euston. But there's one photo -http://winstainforth10.foliosnap.com/?goto=eustonstationabandonedtunn... - which says that there was originally a bridge onto the old island platform for the city branch. I've been to euston, and the "other side" of that photo is half way along the platform. Supposedly its the original way onto the platforms rather than the 1910s-1960s entrance at the west end of the platform, which was shared with the Charing Cross branch. The only photos I've seen of the island platform are ones showing the stairs at the west end of the platform. Does anyone have any old photos/postcards showing the bridge? Hello, I'm the photographer who took the photos of the Euston tunnels, I must say a lot of completely wrong information has been written in this post. I've put together a page which will hopefully clear things up, just to be clear things up. http://www.robertsphotos.co.uk/desktop.htm Cheers Robert Stainforth Thanks; this confirms a lot. The first of your pictures shows the second hole quite close to the first, and shows it to be in the groove I referred to elsewhere. In the photo where you say one of the bridges can be seen, the structure is much further from the hole that can be seen. The groove which is hiding the second hole can be seen, although the hole can't, so I am still sure that that structure is not a bridge associated with the passageways in question. Hi, I'd disagree with you on that, the old photo is taken from a completely different perspective than the new shots. I'd say the bridge looks in just the right place, also look how small the chap is sitting on the far bench. The distance is further than you may think. Rob |
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On Oct 15, 8:14 pm, wrote:
On Oct 15, 7:54 pm, MIG wrote: On Oct 14, 7:24 pm, wrote: On Sep 30, 7:18 pm, wrote: I've just seen this website -http://winstainforth10.foliosnap.com/?goto=eustonstationabandonedtunn... with pictures of some of the abandoned bits of Euston. But there's one photo -http://winstainforth10.foliosnap.com/?goto=eustonstationabandonedtunn... - which says that there was originally a bridge onto the old island platform for the city branch. I've been to euston, and the "other side" of that photo is half way along the platform. Supposedly its the original way onto the platforms rather than the 1910s-1960s entrance at the west end of the platform, which was shared with the Charing Cross branch. The only photos I've seen of the island platform are ones showing the stairs at the west end of the platform. Does anyone have any old photos/postcards showing the bridge? Hello, I'm the photographer who took the photos of the Euston tunnels, I must say a lot of completely wrong information has been written in this post. I've put together a page which will hopefully clear things up, just to be clear things up. http://www.robertsphotos.co.uk/desktop.htm Cheers Robert Stainforth Thanks; this confirms a lot. The first of your pictures shows the second hole quite close to the first, and shows it to be in the groove I referred to elsewhere. In the photo where you say one of the bridges can be seen, the structure is much further from the hole that can be seen. The groove which is hiding the second hole can be seen, although the hole can't, so I am still sure that that structure is not a bridge associated with the passageways in question. Hi, I'd disagree with you on that, the old photo is taken from a completely different perspective than the new shots. I'd say the bridge looks in just the right place, also look how small the chap is sitting on the far bench. The distance is further than you may think. That's what I'm saying: it's too far. In your first photo you can see that the hole in the groove is quite close to the one not in the groove. In the old photo, you can see the groove just beyond the visible hole. The structure running across is much further away. |
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