On Oct 7, 6:20 pm, lonelytraveller
wrote:
Wouldn't they be using the Jubilee line from Stratford if they were in
Essex? And the Bakerloo, Metropolitan, or Picadilly if they were in
west London?

Not sure I follow - I think the Central is currently the more sensible
(if overcrowded) route from the Stratford direction to central London.
And I'm thinking West London commuters are going to find a way onto
Crossrail one way or another, though thinking about it only Bakerloo,
H&C, Jubilee and GWML land residents have easy access.

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Mr Thant wrote:

Wouldn't they be using the Jubilee line from Stratford if they were in
Essex? And the Bakerloo, Metropolitan, or Picadilly if they were in
west London?

Not sure I follow - I think the Central is currently the more sensible
(if overcrowded) route from the Stratford direction to central London.

Have to agree - it's longer on the Jubilee. Indeed when going from Stratford
to London Bridge or Waterloo I've found it quicker to go via Bank than take
forever on the Jubilee.

On 7 Oct, 20:14, "Tim Roll-Pickering"
wrote:
Mr Thant wrote:
Wouldn't they be using the Jubilee line from Stratford if they were in
Essex? And the Bakerloo, Metropolitan, or Picadilly if they were in
west London?
Not sure I follow - I think the Central is currently the more sensible
(if overcrowded) route from the Stratford direction to central London.

Have to agree - it's longer on the Jubilee. Indeed when going from Stratford
to London Bridge or Waterloo I've found it quicker to go via Bank than take
forever on the Jubilee.

Its longer on the Jubilee, but not as crowded.

"lonelytraveller" wrote in
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On 6 Oct, 19:27, wrote:
Do you think the Crossrail will result in a reduction of the number of
passengers on the Central Line?

No, because although it parallels the central line, it misses a lot of
key interchanges - especially holborn and oxford circus, where traffic
from Kings Cross meets it.

But by the time it's up & running a lot of "traffic from Kings Cross" will
be able to stay on their train to Farringdon and change there.

D A Stocks

On 8 Oct, 11:12, "David A Stocks" wrote:
"lonelytraveller" wrote in
No, because although it parallels the central line, it misses a lot of
key interchanges - especially holborn and oxford circus, where traffic
from Kings Cross meets it.

But by the time it's up & running a lot of "traffic from Kings Cross" will
be able to stay on their train to Farringdon and change there.

D A Stocks

If they stayed on the Piccadilly, Victoria, or Northern lines, then
they would miss Farringdon completely. Farringdon isn't much of an
alternative junction for these routes - all you'll cause is even more
traffic on the metropolitan/H+C/Circle line. And if you are going
westwards, then it's in completely the opposite direction.

On Oct 8, 8:04 pm, lonelytraveller
wrote:
If they stayed on the Piccadilly, Victoria, or Northern lines, then
they would miss Farringdon completely. Farringdon isn't much of an
alternative junction for these routes - all you'll cause is even more
traffic on the metropolitan/H+C/Circle line. And if you are going
westwards, then it's in completely the opposite direction.

However, if they stay on their Thameslink train from Stevenage or
King's Lynn, they will be able to change onto Crossrail at Farringdon
and head westwards then.

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Abi

"Abigail Brady" wrote in message
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On Oct 8, 8:04 pm, lonelytraveller
wrote:
If they stayed on the Piccadilly, Victoria, or Northern lines, then
they would miss Farringdon completely. Farringdon isn't much of an
alternative junction for these routes - all you'll cause is even more
traffic on the metropolitan/H+C/Circle line. And if you are going
westwards, then it's in completely the opposite direction.

However, if they stay on their Thameslink train from Stevenage or
King's Lynn, they will be able to change onto Crossrail at Farringdon
and head westwards then.


I tried that suggestion yesterday, re FCC, but I 'lonely traveller' seems
not to be aware of services other than the tube, or that pax from the whole
Thameslink network, from both north and south of London, will be able to get
to the West End and City without going on the underground at all...

Paul S

On 8 Oct, 21:30, Abigail Brady wrote:
On Oct 8, 8:04 pm, lonelytraveller

wrote:
If they stayed on the Piccadilly, Victoria, or Northern lines, then
they would miss Farringdon completely. Farringdon isn't much of an
alternative junction for these routes - all you'll cause is even more
traffic on the metropolitan/H+C/Circle line. And if you are going
westwards, then it's in completely the opposite direction.

However, if they stay on their Thameslink train from Stevenage or
King's Lynn, they will be able to change onto Crossrail at Farringdon
and head westwards then.

--
Abi

After having headed eastwards about a mile further than they needed to
go.

"lonelytraveller" wrote in
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On 8 Oct, 21:30, Abigail Brady wrote:
On Oct 8, 8:04 pm, lonelytraveller

However, if they stay on their Thameslink train from Stevenage or
King's Lynn, they will be able to change onto Crossrail at Farringdon
and head westwards then.

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Abi

After having headed eastwards about a mile further than they needed to
go.

So what? I regularly take a massive detour via Oxford Circus on a tube
journey from Warwick Avenue to Victoria. If you were doing that journey
above ground it would be an insane route to take. If you're doing the
journey by tube it would be insane to go any other way.

I did wonder what the Underground map will look like post-Crossrail -
assuming it gets incorporated. The eastern side of zone 1 is going to look
very different.

D A Stocks

In message . com of
Tue, 9 Oct 2007 03:27:17 in uk.transport.london, John B
writes
On 9 Oct, 08:24, lonelytraveller
wrote:
However, if they stay on their Thameslink train from Stevenage or
King's Lynn, they will be able to change onto Crossrail at Farringdon
and head westwards then.

After having headed eastwards about a mile further than they needed to
go.

In a similar vein, nobody ever uses the Northern Line to travel
between Euston and the City.

Why?

It might not help that the Bank Branch is known as the City Branch in
direction signs in Euston London Underground Station. I failed to
convince LU Customer Services the discrepancy is an issue worth fixing.
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Walter Briscoe