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No Name October 6th 07 06:27 PM

Crossrail
 
Do you think the Crossrail will result in a reduction of the number of
passengers on the Central Line?



Graculus October 6th 07 07:40 PM

Crossrail
 
wrote in message
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Do you think the Crossrail will result in a reduction of the number of
passengers on the Central Line?


Not in the next 10 years!


Offramp October 6th 07 09:10 PM

Crossrail
 
On Oct 6, 7:27 pm, wrote:
Do you think the Crossrail will result in a reduction of the number of
passengers on the Central Line?


Yes.


Paul Corfield October 6th 07 10:11 PM

Crossrail
 
On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 18:27:24 GMT, wrote:

Do you think the Crossrail will result in a reduction of the number of
passengers on the Central Line?


Yes it should have that result but as with all of these schemes the
relief will be relatively short lived. This is because the usage
forecasts show a continued rise in the demand for public transport in
London and thus the spare capacity on both Crossrail and the Central
Line will be used up.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

lonelytraveller October 7th 07 11:34 AM

Crossrail
 
On 6 Oct, 19:27, wrote:
Do you think the Crossrail will result in a reduction of the number of
passengers on the Central Line?


No, because although it parallels the central line, it misses a lot of
key interchanges - especially holborn and oxford circus, where traffic
from Kings Cross meets it.


Paul Scott October 7th 07 01:43 PM

Crossrail
 

"lonelytraveller" wrote in
message ups.com...
On 6 Oct, 19:27, wrote:
Do you think the Crossrail will result in a reduction of the number of
passengers on the Central Line?


No, because although it parallels the central line, it misses a lot of
key interchanges - especially holborn and oxford circus, where traffic
from Kings Cross meets it.


I think that is intentional - Crossrail provides station exits at Hanover
Square and in Soho though, which is presumably intended to give people other
options than going to Oxford Circus via the Central line; and you also have
to consider that pax from the current FCC serviceswill be able to
interchange directly at Farringdon, if they wish to transfer to Crossrail...

Paul S



lonelytraveller October 7th 07 03:36 PM

Crossrail
 
On 7 Oct, 14:43, "Paul Scott" wrote:
"lonelytraveller" wrote in
oglegroups.com...

On 6 Oct, 19:27, wrote:
Do you think the Crossrail will result in a reduction of the number of
passengers on the Central Line?


No, because although it parallels the central line, it misses a lot of
key interchanges - especially holborn and oxford circus, where traffic
from Kings Cross meets it.


I think that is intentional - Crossrail provides station exits at Hanover
Square and in Soho though, which is presumably intended to give people other
options than going to Oxford Circus via the Central line; and you also have
to consider that pax from the current FCC serviceswill be able to
interchange directly at Farringdon, if they wish to transfer to Crossrail...

Paul S


But my point was about people who were going from Kings Cross to the
central line or vice versa. They will still do this, because to
interchange onto Crossrail instead of the central line will mean they
have to leave Oxford Circus/Holborn, wander down the rush-hour
pedestrian traffic filled road a bit, then get back underground onto
the Crossrail platforms; something they won't bother to do. Meaning
that the central line is still crushed, and Oxford Circus and Holborn
are still nightmares in the morning.


Mr Thant October 7th 07 04:23 PM

Crossrail
 
On Oct 7, 4:36 pm, lonelytraveller
wrote:
But my point was about people who were going from Kings Cross to the
central line or vice versa. They will still do this, because to
interchange onto Crossrail instead of the central line will mean they
have to leave Oxford Circus/Holborn, wander down the rush-hour
pedestrian traffic filled road a bit, then get back underground onto
the Crossrail platforms; something they won't bother to do. Meaning
that the central line is still crushed, and Oxford Circus and Holborn
are still nightmares in the morning.


True, the interchange traffic will still be there, but hopefully a
large number of Essex/West London commuters who work in the West End
will switch to using the entirely separate Crossrail stations and
never go near the Central Line or Oxford Circus.

(also, it seems to me arriving from the King's Cross direction there
are very few destinations that can't be better reached some other way)

U

--
http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/
A blog about transport projects in London


lonelytraveller October 7th 07 05:20 PM

Crossrail
 
On 7 Oct, 17:23, Mr Thant
wrote:
On Oct 7, 4:36 pm, lonelytraveller

wrote:
But my point was about people who were going from Kings Cross to the
central line or vice versa. They will still do this, because to
interchange onto Crossrail instead of the central line will mean they
have to leave Oxford Circus/Holborn, wander down the rush-hour
pedestrian traffic filled road a bit, then get back underground onto
the Crossrail platforms; something they won't bother to do. Meaning
that the central line is still crushed, and Oxford Circus and Holborn
are still nightmares in the morning.


True, the interchange traffic will still be there, but hopefully a
large number of Essex/West London commuters who work in the West End
will switch to using the entirely separate Crossrail stations and
never go near the Central Line or Oxford Circus.

(also, it seems to me arriving from the King's Cross direction there
are very few destinations that can't be better reached some other way)

U

--http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/
A blog about transport projects in London


Wouldn't they be using the Jubilee line from Stratford if they were in
Essex? And the Bakerloo, Metropolitan, or Picadilly if they were in
west London?


lonelytraveller October 7th 07 05:20 PM

Crossrail
 
On 7 Oct, 17:23, Mr Thant
wrote:
On Oct 7, 4:36 pm, lonelytraveller

wrote:
But my point was about people who were going from Kings Cross to the
central line or vice versa. They will still do this, because to
interchange onto Crossrail instead of the central line will mean they
have to leave Oxford Circus/Holborn, wander down the rush-hour
pedestrian traffic filled road a bit, then get back underground onto
the Crossrail platforms; something they won't bother to do. Meaning
that the central line is still crushed, and Oxford Circus and Holborn
are still nightmares in the morning.


True, the interchange traffic will still be there, but hopefully a
large number of Essex/West London commuters who work in the West End
will switch to using the entirely separate Crossrail stations and
never go near the Central Line or Oxford Circus.

(also, it seems to me arriving from the King's Cross direction there
are very few destinations that can't be better reached some other way)

U

--http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/
A blog about transport projects in London


Good blog, by the way.



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