On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:38:51 +0100 John Rowland
said...

What about Hail & Ride buses?

Possibly convert the busier ones to fixed stop routes or even install
ticket machines on the buses themselves?

--
Phil Richards
London, N4

On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:25:16 +0100 Dave Arquati said...

I also thought that the system would just charge you for a Travelcard if the
cost of your journeys that day exceeded £4.20 (new Z12 price) - so if I make
two tube journeys and two bus journeys all in Z1, I get charged for a
Travelcard and not two Carnet tickets and two Saver tickets. But some people
seem to be saying this will not be the case because the system will not
handle Travelcards?

The Oystercard web site doesn't give much detail about daily tickets, all
it says is:

"All tickets valid for less than 7 days, will continue to be available on
paper. Later we'll be launching an exciting new pay-as-you-go product
exclusive to Oyster called Pre Pay. This will be ideal for those of you
who travel regularly but do not buy a season ticket. We'll be telling you
a great deal more about this soon."

--
Phil Richards
London, N4

In message , Paul Corfield
writes
fares. And then can't understand why people are queuing up to bash them.

Here you go again - trying to justify assaults on LUL staff. Have you
tried an anger management course?

No it didn't work. I beat up the course instructor.
Im very sorry. Obviously I thought you would all think when I said bash
them. I meant in criticise them. Not actually physically bash them. Im
very sorry for not making myself clear and causing the confusion that I
was justifying attacking London Underground staff.
Just to make myself aboustely clear for those people who don't
understand.
I was suggesting that London Underground shouldn't be surprised when
people criticise them after charging high fares for a crap service.

--
CJG

Phil Richards wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 18:30:02 +0100 Ben Nunn said...
However, why can't they sell the ****ers at bus stops or on buses, for those
of us who need to make an initial bus journey in order to be able to buy a
travelcard in the first place?

In that case why not pop in to your local friendly pass agent to
buy your Travelcard before making your initial bus journey?

Because it's considerably further away than my local friendly bus stop.

Colin McKenzie

On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 19:23:40 +0100, CJG
wrote:

We aren't putting up the fares really! Just encouraging people to use
Oyster.

Encouraging?

From http://www.oystercard.com/sub_get_tickets.php

"Currently, Oyster is available only for adult customers who need to
renew Annual and Monthly Travelcards or Annual Bus Passes."

Doesn't cover 100% of ticket sales does it? And from the site no date
when "daily tickets" will be available.... tho I bet the daily tickets
don't come in before the price rise.

I'd gladly except the oystercard (as someone who travels in the
evening from zone 6 a few times a week)...there are advantages... not
having to wait 15+ minutes to get a ticket at the booking office, and
ticket machines which are either bust, not accepting some coins... et
al. Tho a few questions (which I can't find answers too);

- Will the "travel card" contune to exist? Or will payment be on a per
journey basis?

- Whats the lifetime/units of credit? For example paying in advance
does it mean being extempt from price increases?

Just remember Ken and LU think we are all stupid.

We are not... A final question tho!

Why did the "handover" only occur recently (as I understand it), and
not when Ken came to power? Since it's only a short while until the
election... is this a political thing? It shouldn't be... but I get
the feeling it maybe?

John Rowland wrote:
What about Hail & Ride buses?

Will probably disappear altogether, despite their popularity, for
disability discrimination reasons.

Colin McKenzie

"Mark Blewett" wrote in message
...

I'd gladly except the oystercard (as someone who
travels in the evening from zone 6 a few times a
week)...there are advantages... not having to wait
15+ minutes to get a ticket at the booking office, and
ticket machines which are either bust, not accepting
some coins... et al.

I was amazed that daily tickets on Oyster would be introduced last (if at
all) - haven't LU realised that the ticket tout problem will disappear
overnight when the ODTCs go on Oyster?

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

Colin McKenzie wrote:
John Rowland wrote:
What about Hail & Ride buses?

Will probably disappear altogether, despite their popularity, for
disability discrimination reasons.

In what way are they discriminatory? One such route near me is very popular
with elderly residents with limited walking ability because they don't have
to walk so far.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

"Ben Nunn" wrote in news:bhvjdl$3lr8a$1@ID-
55895.news.uni-berlin.de:

Unless I'm very much mistaken, it was Phil Richards
), in message
who said:

The biggest hike has got to be for those that regularly Travel in Z1
only especially the Weekly Travelcard & Carnets. I think the biggest
outcry will come from those that live & work or whatever in Z1.


If I was lucky enough to live and work in Z1 - saving massively on time and
travel costs compared to any arrangement I've ever had at any point in my
life - I wouldn't complain about this increase.

Especially if you did complain people could just tell you to stop being a
maytyr and just get an oystercard.

Mark Blewett wrote:
l question tho!

Why did the "handover" only occur recently (as I understand it), and
not when Ken came to power? Since it's only a short while until the
election... is this a political thing? It shouldn't be... but I get
the feeling it maybe?

Of course it was. Blair and Brown wouldn't let it go until PPP was
signed and sealed.

--
James Farrar |
London SE 13 |