English Democrat Party supports Garry Bushell for London Mayor
 

I've never heard of them... heard of him though.

http://www.englishdemocrats.org.uk/history.php

Fortunately their FAQ runs along the lines of
1. Are you Nazis?
2. Are you sure you're not Nazis?
3. So you're definitely not Nazis then?

English Democrat Party supports Garry Bushell for London Mayor
 

On 19 Oct, 13:09, "John Rowland"
wrote:
I've never heard of them... heard of him though.

http://www.englishdemocrats.org.uk/history.php

Fortunately their FAQ runs along the lines of
1. Are you Nazis?
2. Are you sure you're not Nazis?
3. So you're definitely not Nazis then?


On the topic of the upcoming Mayoral election I note that yesterday
the big issue founder John Bird, who was to be an independent
candidate, withdrew from the race - saying that if he won he wouldn't
want to spend his time apologising for police or the transport system.
Shame as I think his contributions would have been a valuable addition
to the debate, on issues of substance rather than frivolities.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7051608.stm

English Democrat Party supports Garry Bushell for London Mayor
 

On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:09:10 +0100, "John Rowland"
wrote:


I've never heard of them... heard of him though.

He got 3.4% for them in Greenwich and Woolwich in 2005.

English Democrat Party supports Garry Bushell for London Mayor
 

On Oct 19, 1:09 pm, "John Rowland"
wrote:
I've never heard of them... heard of him though.

http://www.englishdemocrats.org.uk/history.php

Fortunately their FAQ runs along the lines of
1. Are you Nazis?
2. Are you sure you're not Nazis?
3. So you're definitely not Nazis then?

If the incumbent politicians would stop sucking up to ethnics and
other assorted minorities (eg Red Kens latest wheeze about special
courses for ethnic minorities to get them into black cabs - so wheres
the course for getting more English driving minicabs then?) then these
parties wouldn't keep popping up would they?

B003

English Democrat Party supports Garry Bushell for London Mayor
 

On Oct 20, 6:37 pm, Boltar wrote:
On Oct 19, 1:09 pm, "John Rowland"

wrote:
I've never heard of them... heard of him though.

http://www.englishdemocrats.org.uk/history.php

Fortunately their FAQ runs along the lines of
1. Are you Nazis?
2. Are you sure you're not Nazis?
3. So you're definitely not Nazis then?

If the incumbent politicians would stop sucking up to ethnics and
other assorted minorities (eg Red Kens latest wheeze about special
courses for ethnic minorities to get them into black cabs - so wheres
the course for getting more English driving minicabs then?) then these
parties wouldn't keep popping up would they?

B003

You mean if the mainstream parties were more openly Nazi, there
wouldn't be a need for small Nazi parties?

It worked in 1979 when Thatcher came out and stole the NF vote.

I haven't yet found the bit where they propose executing train
spotters, but it's probably in there somewhere.

English Democrat Party supports Garry Bushell for London Mayor
 

On Oct 20, 7:24 pm, MIG wrote:
You mean if the mainstream parties were more openly Nazi, there
wouldn't be a need for small Nazi parties?

It worked in 1979 when Thatcher came out and stole the NF vote.

Oh give it a rest. Chucking about the word "nazi" at anyone who has
right wing views is 6th form politics at is most pathetic. Grow up.

B2003

English Democrat Party supports Garry Bushell for London Mayor
 

On Oct 21, 12:31 pm, Boltar wrote:
On Oct 20, 7:24 pm, MIG wrote:

You mean if the mainstream parties were more openly Nazi, there
wouldn't be a need for small Nazi parties?

It worked in 1979 when Thatcher came out and stole the NF vote.

Oh give it a rest. Chucking about the word "nazi" at anyone who has
right wing views is 6th form politics at is most pathetic. Grow up.


Who did that? I didn't respond to your chucking about phrases like
"sucking up to ethnics" by accusing you of anything. I was referring
to your comments about what mainstream parties should do to prevent
small far-right parties popping up.

Your suggestion seems to be that they should suck up the far right
more than they do, thereby annexing their niche.

I think that that is the problem and that they should suck up the the
far right less than they do, because when the mainstream whips up
hysteria about asylum seekers or whatever it is this week, it gives
credibility to these loonies. I hope that's clear.

English Democrat Party supports Garry Bushell for London Mayor
 

On 20 Oct, 19:24, MIG wrote:
It worked in 1979 when Thatcher came out
Thatcher's a lesbian?

English Democrat Party supports Garry Bushell for London Mayor
 

On Oct 21, 12:56 pm, MIG wrote:
Who did that? I didn't respond to your chucking about phrases like
"sucking up to ethnics" by accusing you of anything. I was referring
to your comments about what mainstream parties should do to prevent
small far-right parties popping up.

Your suggestion seems to be that they should suck up the far right
more than they do, thereby annexing their niche.

So which bit of "stop sucking up to ethnics" = "suck up to the far
right"? Or is anyone or anything in your right-on multi-culti world
who doesn't approve of treating minorities as special cases a nazi?
The far right only get *any* vote because they pick up on issues that
concern a large amount of people though this simple fact seems to be
lost on the dozy armchair socialists who decry them.

I think that that is the problem and that they should suck up the the
far right less than they do, because when the mainstream whips up
hysteria about asylum seekers or whatever it is this week, it gives
credibility to these loonies. I hope that's clear.

Not really. As for whipping up hesteria, go visit any part of london
now and see how much Polish you can hear. You think thats a good thing
while we still have 2 milllion on the dole? Anyway ,I always find it
amusing when lefty types bang on about nazis, since the irony of their
spiritual heartland , the USSR, being allied with Hitler until 1941
always seems to be lost on them.

B2003

English Democrat Party supports Garry Bushell for London Mayor
 

On Oct 21, 3:51 pm, Boltar wrote:
On Oct 21, 12:56 pm, MIG wrote:

Who did that? I didn't respond to your chucking about phrases like
"sucking up to ethnics" by accusing you of anything. I was referring
to your comments about what mainstream parties should do to prevent
small far-right parties popping up.

Your suggestion seems to be that they should suck up the far right
more than they do, thereby annexing their niche.

So which bit of "stop sucking up to ethnics" = "suck up to the far
right"? Or is anyone or anything in your right-on multi-culti world
who doesn't approve of treating minorities as special cases a nazi?
The far right only get *any* vote because they pick up on issues that
concern a large amount of people though this simple fact seems to be
lost on the dozy armchair socialists who decry them.



Yes the issues are real. One thing the Nazis were known for was
scapegoating specific groups for genuine problems that affect people.

The problems stay the same, like housing and health, but the
scapegoats change.

So do you think it's a good or bad thing that far right parties get
votes by blaming asylum-seekers or Poles, while the actual problems
are not addressed? I thought initially you were suggesting that it
was bad.

English Democrat Party supports Garry Bushell for London Mayor
 

Interesting I'm sure, but could the OP explain why he chose this newsgroup
for this subject...

Paul

English Democrat Party supports Garry Bushell for London Mayor
 

On Oct 21, 4:26 pm, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
Interesting I'm sure, but could the OP explain why he chose this newsgroup
for this subject...

Paul

Presumably it means that Garry Bushell is in favour of state control
of an integrated transport system, with greater use of light railways,
trams, cycle-ways and pedestrian friendly areas.

English Democrat Party supports Garry Bushell for London Mayor
 

John Rowland wrote:
I've never heard of them... heard of him though.

http://www.englishdemocrats.org.uk/history.php

Fortunately their FAQ runs along the lines of
1. Are you Nazis?
2. Are you sure you're not Nazis?
3. So you're definitely not Nazis then?

Interesting idea - a political party which describes itself using a cut
and paste from Wikipedia - complete with [citation needed]...

That could be fun if a serious party tried it.

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

English Democrat Party supports Garry Bushell for London Mayor
 

On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:05:40 +0100, Arthur Figgis
wrote:

John Rowland wrote:
I've never heard of them... heard of him though.

http://www.englishdemocrats.org.uk/history.php

Fortunately their FAQ runs along the lines of
1. Are you Nazis?
2. Are you sure you're not Nazis?
3. So you're definitely not Nazis then?

Interesting idea - a political party which describes itself using a cut
and paste from Wikipedia - complete with [citation needed]...

That could be fun if a serious party tried it.

http://xkcd.com/285/

:)

English Democrat Party supports Garry Bushell for London Mayor
 

James Farrar wrote:
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:05:40 +0100, Arthur Figgis
wrote:

John Rowland wrote:
I've never heard of them... heard of him though.

http://www.englishdemocrats.org.uk/history.php

Fortunately their FAQ runs along the lines of
1. Are you Nazis?
2. Are you sure you're not Nazis?
3. So you're definitely not Nazis then?
Interesting idea - a political party which describes itself using a cut
and paste from Wikipedia - complete with [citation needed]...

That could be fun if a serious party tried it.

http://xkcd.com/285/

:)

:)

few minutes of clicking
Heck, that's the second reference to Thomas the Tank Engine slash
fiction that I've seen in about a week...

Ooh, and a train one: http://xkcd.com/282/
--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

English Democrat Party supports Garry Bushell for London Mayor
 

Paul Scott wrote:

Interesting I'm sure, but could the OP explain why he chose this
newsgroup for this subject...

The Mayor is the boss of Transport for London.

English Democrat Party supports Garry Bushell for London Mayor
 

On Oct 21, 1:34 pm, lonelytraveller
wrote:
On 20 Oct, 19:24, MIG wrote: It worked in 1979 when Thatcher came out

Thatcher's a lesbian?

That's what you say. I couldn't possibly comment.

English Democrat Party supports Garry Bushell for London Mayor
 

On Oct 21, 4:23 pm, MIG wrote:
So do you think it's a good or bad thing that far right parties get
votes by blaming asylum-seekers or Poles, while the actual problems
are not addressed? I thought initially you were suggesting that it

Just a thought - perhaps they are part of the problem. Housing for
example doesn't magically appear when 300,000 poles suddenly rock up
not to mention all the others. But you go back to your dreamworld and
don't let reality trouble you. This isn't the forum for this anyway.

B2003

English Democrat Party supports Garry Bushell for London Mayor
 

On Oct 22, 9:30 am, Boltar wrote:
On Oct 21, 4:23 pm, MIG wrote:

So do you think it's a good or bad thing that far right parties get
votes by blaming asylum-seekers or Poles, while the actual problems
are not addressed? I thought initially you were suggesting that it

Just a thought - perhaps they are part of the problem. Housing for
example doesn't magically appear when 300,000 poles suddenly rock up
not to mention all the others. But you go back to your dreamworld and
don't let reality trouble you. This isn't the forum for this anyway.

Try and think a little about the reality facing people targeted by the
Nazi groups and think again about whether you want to give them
respectability. You are preparing the ground for them.

The railway related term is "no platform".

English Democrat Party supports Garry Bushell for London Mayor
 

On Oct 22, 10:54 am, MIG wrote:
On Oct 22, 9:30 am, Boltar wrote:

On Oct 21, 4:23 pm, MIG wrote:

So do you think it's a good or bad thing that far right parties get
votes by blaming asylum-seekers or Poles, while the actual problems
are not addressed? I thought initially you were suggesting that it

Just a thought - perhaps they are part of the problem. Housing for
example doesn't magically appear when 300,000 poles suddenly rock up
not to mention all the others. But you go back to your dreamworld and
don't let reality trouble you. This isn't the forum for this anyway.

Try and think a little about the reality facing people targeted by the
Nazi groups and think again about whether you want to give them
respectability. You are preparing the ground for them.

Like I said , go back to your dreamworld.

B2003

English Democrat Party supports Garry Bushell for London Mayor
 

On Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 07:51:43AM -0700, Boltar wrote:

Not really. As for whipping up hesteria, go visit any part of london
now and see how much Polish you can hear.

Perhaps I'm mis-understanding you, but I don't think yer average Pole is
more likely to be hysterical than yer average Brit. But perhaps, not
speaking Polish, I don't understand the jokes that they're always
telling.

--
David Cantrell | A machine for turning tea into grumpiness

Immigration: making Britain great since AD43

English Democrat Party supports Garry Bushell for London Mayor
 

MIG wrote:
On Oct 22, 9:30 am, Boltar wrote:
On Oct 21, 4:23 pm, MIG wrote:

So do you think it's a good or bad thing that far right parties get
votes by blaming asylum-seekers or Poles, while the actual problems
are not addressed? I thought initially you were suggesting that it

Just a thought - perhaps they are part of the problem. Housing for
example doesn't magically appear when 300,000 poles suddenly rock up
not to mention all the others. But you go back to your dreamworld and
don't let reality trouble you. This isn't the forum for this anyway.

Try and think a little about the reality facing people targeted by the
Nazi groups and think again about whether you want to give them
respectability. You are preparing the ground for them.

Yes, we wouldn't want a mayor who hates Jews to replace Livingstone!

English Democrat Party supports Garry Bushell for London Mayor
 

On Oct 22, 11:46 am, "John Rowland"
wrote:
MIG wrote:
On Oct 22, 9:30 am, Boltar wrote:
On Oct 21, 4:23 pm, MIG wrote:

So do you think it's a good or bad thing that far right parties get
votes by blaming asylum-seekers or Poles, while the actual problems
are not addressed? I thought initially you were suggesting that it

Just a thought - perhaps they are part of the problem. Housing for
example doesn't magically appear when 300,000 poles suddenly rock up
not to mention all the others. But you go back to your dreamworld and
don't let reality trouble you. This isn't the forum for this anyway.

Try and think a little about the reality facing people targeted by the
Nazi groups and think again about whether you want to give them
respectability. You are preparing the ground for them.

Yes, we wouldn't want a mayor who hates Jews to replace Livingstone!-

As I said before, presumably Garry Bushell is in favour of state
control
of an integrated transport system, with greater use of light
railways,
trams, cycle-ways and pedestrian friendly areas. That's where it's
relevant to this group.

English Democrat Party supports Garry Bushell for London Mayor
 

On Mon, 22 Oct 2007, MIG wrote:

On Oct 22, 11:46 am, "John Rowland"
wrote:
MIG wrote:
On Oct 22, 9:30 am, Boltar wrote:
On Oct 21, 4:23 pm, MIG wrote:

So do you think it's a good or bad thing that far right parties get
votes by blaming asylum-seekers or Poles, while the actual problems
are not addressed? I thought initially you were suggesting that it

Just a thought - perhaps they are part of the problem. Housing for
example doesn't magically appear when 300,000 poles suddenly rock up
not to mention all the others. But you go back to your dreamworld and
don't let reality trouble you. This isn't the forum for this anyway.

Try and think a little about the reality facing people targeted by the
Nazi groups and think again about whether you want to give them
respectability. You are preparing the ground for them.

Yes, we wouldn't want a mayor who hates Jews to replace Livingstone!-

As I said before, presumably Garry Bushell is in favour of state control
of an integrated transport system, with greater use of light railways,
trams, cycle-ways and pedestrian friendly areas. That's where it's
relevant to this group.

Perhaps he will give people rides in his beard.

tom

--
Demolish serious culture!

English Democrat Party supports Garry Bushell for London Mayor
 

On 21 Oct, 19:55, Arthur Figgis wrote:
James Farrar wrote:
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:05:40 +0100, Arthur Figgis
wrote:

John Rowland wrote:
I've never heard of them... heard of him though.

http://www.englishdemocrats.org.uk/history.php

Fortunately their FAQ runs along the lines of
1. Are you Nazis?
2. Are you sure you're not Nazis?
3. So you're definitely not Nazis then?
Interesting idea - a political party which describes itself using a cut
and paste from Wikipedia - complete with [citation needed]...

That could be fun if a serious party tried it.

http://xkcd.com/285/

:)

:)

few minutes of clicking
Heck, that's the second reference to Thomas the Tank Engine slash
fiction that I've seen in about a week...

Ooh, and a train one: http://xkcd.com/282/


Now that I really like!

English Democrat Party supports Garry Bushell for London Mayor
 

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:23:03 -0700, Mizter T
wrote:

On 21 Oct, 19:55, Arthur Figgis wrote:

Ooh, and a train one: http://xkcd.com/282/


Now that I really like!

I'm going to have to remember that one and use it. People expect
atrocious puns from me :)