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Fig October 23rd 07 05:10 PM

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Hi group, heard this one yesterday from a tube driver:

"Due to activation of the emergency alarm on the following train we have
been asked to wait at this station for 2 minutes"

Why would the train behind effect the one in front? This was on a
northbound Jubilee train at Bond Street about 1720 Monday.

--
Fig

Tom Anderson October 23rd 07 05:31 PM

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On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Fig wrote:

Why would the train behind effect the one in front? This was on a
northbound Jubilee train at Bond Street about 1720 Monday.


To Regulate The Service. If your train went off as normal, and the guy
behind took five minutes to clear the alarm, a five-minute gap would have
been introduced into the sequence of trains. Your train waiting meant that
there was one two-minute gap and one three-minute (or whatever).

tom

--
HE TORE HIS FACE OFF!!!

eastender October 23rd 07 09:39 PM

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In article ,

To Regulate The Service. If your train went off as normal, and the guy
behind took five minutes to clear the alarm, a five-minute gap would have
been introduced into the sequence of trains. Your train waiting meant that
there was one two-minute gap and one three-minute (or whatever).


What about the gap in ahead of the train?

E.

MIG October 23rd 07 11:43 PM

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On Oct 23, 10:39 pm, eastender wrote:
In article ,

To Regulate The Service. If your train went off as normal, and the guy
behind took five minutes to clear the alarm, a five-minute gap would have
been introduced into the sequence of trains. Your train waiting meant that
there was one two-minute gap and one three-minute (or whatever).


What about the gap in ahead of the train?

E.


The rule is that if I am approaching the platform, the train will
leave and I'll be stuck there waiting for the delayed one, but if I am
on the train, it will be held to regulate the service. There is
probably a name for this law.


Ian Jelf October 24th 07 12:01 AM

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In message . com, MIG
writes
The rule is that if I am approaching the platform, the train will
leave and I'll be stuck there waiting for the delayed one, but if I am
on the train, it will be held to regulate the service. There is
probably a name for this law.


I'll open with Yerkes' Law as a suggestion. Any others?!
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

chunky munky October 24th 07 12:23 AM

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On Oct 24, 1:04 am, David of Broadway
wrote:
eastender wrote:
In article ,


To Regulate The Service. If your train went off as normal, and the guy
behind took five minutes to clear the alarm, a five-minute gap would have
been introduced into the sequence of trains. Your train waiting meant that
there was one two-minute gap and one three-minute (or whatever).


What about the gap in ahead of the train?


Let's say the scheduled headway is 10 minutes, and it takes 5 minutes to
clear up the problem.

If no corrective action is taken, there will be a 15-minute gap ahead of
the train in question and a 5-minute gap behind it. It will encounter
much-larger-than-usual loads waiting for the train at the rest of the
stations on the line, possibly overloading the train and increasing
dwell times, increasing the 15-minute gap even further.

Let's say that, as a corrective action, its leader and follower are each
instructed to hold for 2 minutes. Then the problem train will have a
13-minute gap ahead of it and a 7-minute gap behind it. Of course, now
the leader has a 12-minute gap ahead of it and the follower has an
8-minute gap behind it, but at least there are no 15-minute gaps.

Of course, more trains can be held to smooth out the perturbations even
further.
--
David of Broadway
New York, NY, USA


And all this is measured by the Headway Clocks and are used to define
the day's perfomance.


James Farrar October 24th 07 12:32 AM

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On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 01:01:29 +0100, Ian Jelf
wrote:

In message . com, MIG
writes
The rule is that if I am approaching the platform, the train will
leave and I'll be stuck there waiting for the delayed one, but if I am
on the train, it will be held to regulate the service. There is
probably a name for this law.


I'll open with Yerkes' Law as a suggestion. Any others?!


Yerkes' Second Law: Trains will only be held to regulate the service
at non-interchange stations.

Ian Jelf October 24th 07 08:31 AM

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In message , James Farrar
writes
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 01:01:29 +0100, Ian Jelf
wrote:

In message . com, MIG
writes
The rule is that if I am approaching the platform, the train will
leave and I'll be stuck there waiting for the delayed one, but if I am
on the train, it will be held to regulate the service. There is
probably a name for this law.


I'll open with Yerkes' Law as a suggestion. Any others?!


Yerkes' Second Law: Trains will only be held to regulate the service
at non-interchange stations.


I feel a serious document worthy of academic study coming on here.

Beck's Law: District/Metropolitan/H&C Line Trains come when waiting for
a Circle Line Train; Circle Line trains come when waiting for a
District/Metropolitan/H&C Line Train.

--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

Colin McKenzie October 24th 07 07:14 PM

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Ian Jelf wrote:

Beck's Law: District/Metropolitan/H&C Line Trains come when waiting for
a Circle Line Train; Circle Line trains come when waiting for a
District/Metropolitan/H&C Line Train.


Beck's second law: if you change from District to Piccadilly at Barons
Court Westbound, at least two Ealing Broadway trains will reach Acton
Town before an Uxbridge train turns up.

If you don't, one will overtake you.

Colin McKenzie

--
No-one has ever proved that cycle helmets make cycling any safer at
the population level, and anyway cycling is about as safe per mile as
walking.
Make an informed choice - visit www.cyclehelmets.org.


Mystery Flyer October 24th 07 08:10 PM

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Ian Jelf wrote:

I'll open with Yerkes' Law as a suggestion. Any others?!


Yerkes' Second Law: Trains will only be held to regulate the service
at non-interchange stations.


I feel a serious document worthy of academic study coming on here.

Beck's Law: District/Metropolitan/H&C Line Trains come when waiting for
a Circle Line Train; Circle Line trains come when waiting for a
District/Metropolitan/H&C Line Train.


Earls Law: 'Olympia' 'Richmond' and 'Special' Trains shall come when
waiting at Earls Court for a Wimbledon train

mf

Ian Jelf October 24th 07 09:19 PM

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In message , Mystery Flyer
writes
Ian Jelf wrote:

I'll open with Yerkes' Law as a suggestion. Any others?!

Yerkes' Second Law: Trains will only be held to regulate the service
at non-interchange stations.

I feel a serious document worthy of academic study coming on here.
Beck's Law: District/Metropolitan/H&C Line Trains come when waiting
for a Circle Line Train; Circle Line trains come when waiting for a
District/Metropolitan/H&C Line Train.


Earls Law: 'Olympia' 'Richmond' and 'Special' Trains shall come when
waiting at Earls Court for a Wimbledon train


Is someone writing all this down? :-))
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

asdf October 24th 07 11:11 PM

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On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:10:48 +0100, Mystery Flyer wrote:

I'll open with Yerkes' Law as a suggestion. Any others?!

Yerkes' Second Law: Trains will only be held to regulate the service
at non-interchange stations.


I feel a serious document worthy of academic study coming on here.

Beck's Law: District/Metropolitan/H&C Line Trains come when waiting for
a Circle Line Train; Circle Line trains come when waiting for a
District/Metropolitan/H&C Line Train.


Earls Law: 'Olympia' 'Richmond' and 'Special' Trains shall come when
waiting at Earls Court for a Wimbledon train


The Acton Town Principle:

If waiting for a Rayners Lane train, the first three trains to arrive
will each be one of: Heathrow, Northfields, Ealing Broadway, Stops
Here, Special.

If waiting for an Ealing Broadway train, the first three trains to
arrive will each be one of: Heathrow, Northfields, Rayners Lane,
Ruislip, Uxbridge, Stops Here, Special.

asdf October 24th 07 11:16 PM

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On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:14:08 +0100, Colin McKenzie wrote:

Beck's Law: District/Metropolitan/H&C Line Trains come when waiting for
a Circle Line Train; Circle Line trains come when waiting for a
District/Metropolitan/H&C Line Train.


Beck's second law: if you change from District to Piccadilly at Barons
Court Westbound, at least two Ealing Broadway trains will reach Acton
Town before an Uxbridge train turns up.

If you don't, one will overtake you.


Beck's Third Law: If travelling from Baker Street or Finchley Road to
Harrow-on-the-Hill, and the next two trains are an all-stations
followed by a fast, whichever one you don't take will arrive at Harrow
first.

MIG October 25th 07 12:40 AM

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On Oct 25, 12:11 am, asdf wrote:
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:10:48 +0100, Mystery Flyer wrote:
I'll open with Yerkes' Law as a suggestion. Any others?!


Yerkes' Second Law: Trains will only be held to regulate the service
at non-interchange stations.


I feel a serious document worthy of academic study coming on here.


Beck's Law: District/Metropolitan/H&C Line Trains come when waiting for
a Circle Line Train; Circle Line trains come when waiting for a
District/Metropolitan/H&C Line Train.


Earls Law: 'Olympia' 'Richmond' and 'Special' Trains shall come when
waiting at Earls Court for a Wimbledon train


The Acton Town Principle:

If waiting for a Rayners Lane train, the first three trains to arrive
will each be one of: Heathrow, Northfields, Ealing Broadway, Stops
Here, Special.

If waiting for an Ealing Broadway train, the first three trains to
arrive will each be one of: Heathrow, Northfields, Rayners Lane,
Ruislip, Uxbridge, Stops Here, Special.



Sands Law: if the up escalator is on the right, the exit gates are on
the left.


James Farrar October 25th 07 12:49 AM

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On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:11:33 +0100, asdf
wrote:

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:10:48 +0100, Mystery Flyer wrote:

I'll open with Yerkes' Law as a suggestion. Any others?!

Yerkes' Second Law: Trains will only be held to regulate the service
at non-interchange stations.

I feel a serious document worthy of academic study coming on here.

Beck's Law: District/Metropolitan/H&C Line Trains come when waiting for
a Circle Line Train; Circle Line trains come when waiting for a
District/Metropolitan/H&C Line Train.


Earls Law: 'Olympia' 'Richmond' and 'Special' Trains shall come when
waiting at Earls Court for a Wimbledon train


The Acton Town Principle:

If waiting for a Rayners Lane train, the first three trains to arrive
will each be one of: Heathrow, Northfields, Ealing Broadway, Stops
Here, Special.

If waiting for an Ealing Broadway train, the first three trains to
arrive will each be one of: Heathrow, Northfields, Rayners Lane,
Ruislip, Uxbridge, Stops Here, Special.


If waiting for a Heathrow train (and even a Northfields train would
do!) the first two trains will be to Uxbridge and Rayners Lane.

James Farrar October 25th 07 01:31 AM

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On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:40:16 -0700, MIG
wrote:

On Oct 25, 12:11 am, asdf wrote:
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:10:48 +0100, Mystery Flyer wrote:
I'll open with Yerkes' Law as a suggestion. Any others?!


Yerkes' Second Law: Trains will only be held to regulate the service
at non-interchange stations.


I feel a serious document worthy of academic study coming on here.


Beck's Law: District/Metropolitan/H&C Line Trains come when waiting for
a Circle Line Train; Circle Line trains come when waiting for a
District/Metropolitan/H&C Line Train.


Earls Law: 'Olympia' 'Richmond' and 'Special' Trains shall come when
waiting at Earls Court for a Wimbledon train


The Acton Town Principle:

If waiting for a Rayners Lane train, the first three trains to arrive
will each be one of: Heathrow, Northfields, Ealing Broadway, Stops
Here, Special.

If waiting for an Ealing Broadway train, the first three trains to
arrive will each be one of: Heathrow, Northfields, Rayners Lane,
Ruislip, Uxbridge, Stops Here, Special.



Sands Law: if the up escalator is on the right, the exit gates are on
the left.


Warren's Law: if you are not paying attention, the up and down
escalators will have been reversed.

Warren's Second Law: once you have taken two steps up the down
escalator, you must run all the way up it or risk looking very silly.

Tom Anderson October 25th 07 12:45 PM

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On Thu, 25 Oct 2007, James Farrar wrote:

On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:11:33 +0100, asdf
wrote:

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:10:48 +0100, Mystery Flyer wrote:

I'll open with Yerkes' Law as a suggestion. Any others?!

Yerkes' Second Law: Trains will only be held to regulate the service
at non-interchange stations.

I feel a serious document worthy of academic study coming on here.

Beck's Law: District/Metropolitan/H&C Line Trains come when waiting for
a Circle Line Train; Circle Line trains come when waiting for a
District/Metropolitan/H&C Line Train.

Earls Law: 'Olympia' 'Richmond' and 'Special' Trains shall come when
waiting at Earls Court for a Wimbledon train


The Acton Town Principle:

If waiting for a Rayners Lane train, the first three trains to arrive
will each be one of: Heathrow, Northfields, Ealing Broadway, Stops
Here, Special.

If waiting for an Ealing Broadway train, the first three trains to
arrive will each be one of: Heathrow, Northfields, Rayners Lane,
Ruislip, Uxbridge, Stops Here, Special.


If waiting for a Heathrow train (and even a Northfields train would
do!) the first two trains will be to Uxbridge and Rayners Lane.


Greathead's law: when waiting for a Northern line train, nothing at all
will come.

tom

--
Model 706-8073-421, Robot Sonic

Sir Benjamin Nunn October 25th 07 04:03 PM

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"asdf" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:14:08 +0100, Colin McKenzie wrote:

Beck's Law: District/Metropolitan/H&C Line Trains come when waiting for
a Circle Line Train; Circle Line trains come when waiting for a
District/Metropolitan/H&C Line Train.


Beck's second law: if you change from District to Piccadilly at Barons
Court Westbound, at least two Ealing Broadway trains will reach Acton
Town before an Uxbridge train turns up.

If you don't, one will overtake you.


Beck's Third Law: If travelling from Baker Street or Finchley Road to
Harrow-on-the-Hill, and the next two trains are an all-stations
followed by a fast, whichever one you don't take will arrive at Harrow
first.



Beck's Fourth Law: If you're travelling southbound on a Charing cross branch
train, it will terminate at Kennington. The only times you'll ever see a
through CX service is while waiting for a northbound Bank train.

BTN



Steve Dulieu October 25th 07 10:10 PM

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"Sir Benjamin Nunn" wrote in message
...

"asdf" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:14:08 +0100, Colin McKenzie wrote:

Beck's Law: District/Metropolitan/H&C Line Trains come when waiting
for
a Circle Line Train; Circle Line trains come when waiting for a
District/Metropolitan/H&C Line Train.

Beck's second law: if you change from District to Piccadilly at Barons
Court Westbound, at least two Ealing Broadway trains will reach Acton
Town before an Uxbridge train turns up.

If you don't, one will overtake you.


Beck's Third Law: If travelling from Baker Street or Finchley Road to
Harrow-on-the-Hill, and the next two trains are an all-stations
followed by a fast, whichever one you don't take will arrive at Harrow
first.



Beck's Fourth Law: If you're travelling southbound on a Charing cross
branch train, it will terminate at Kennington. The only times you'll ever
see a through CX service is while waiting for a northbound Bank train.

Holden's Theorem: Should a train be exceptionally reversed E2W at Arnos, the
likelihood of the following train going through is inversely proportional to
the clementness of the weather. Thus train reversed at Arnos at 15:00 on a
sunny warm July Sunday afternoon, next train going to Cock will be standing
at PJ2 waiting to come into the platform, passengers will not have finished
alighting from the first train before the PA informs them of the whereabouts
of the following train.
Train reversed at Arnos at 17:55 on a dark November Thursday evening with
the temp about freezing and a biting wind blowing a light sleeting rain
horizontally along the platform, next two trains will also reverse (both on
6 minute headways and one of them via P4), the third will be an Oakwood
stow, forth train in will be another reverser (booked) fifth train will go
to Cock. There will be no PA announcements.
--
Cheers, Steve.
Change jealous to sad to reply.



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