Nathan wrote:
I did have a chuckle at one piece of propaganda that said there have been 16
sets of points upgraded between Kentish Town and Kings Cross. Could anyone
name them all?

AFAIAA there will be no turnback facilities at St P. International LL (no
signals and no pointwork). Given that any future work or blocks will be
south of Kings Cross Thameslink station, I can only imagine that all
turnback trains will just travel empty to KX and then use the pointwork that
was originally used for trains terminating there from the south during the
original blockade of Kings Cross. I can see a split service of trains
terminating at Kentish Town and some terminating at St. Pancras
I saw a FCC engineering works poster at Luton, and it explicitly stated
the use of platforms 1-4 at St Pancras (i.e. the high-level platforms)
by FCC services during the closures. Whether or not they eventually
choose to use their own platforms during the closures instead remains to
be seen.

On 6 Nov, 08:57, Mizter T wrote:
I see now that the Midland mainline platform-level concourse and
platforms offer a pretty good view across the whole Barlow trainshed
now that the hoardings have largely come down and been replaced with
glass walls. The roof is splendid, lots of light coming through so
quite a change from the dingy St P of old.

I went to have a look at lunchtime today - by my reckoning the clock
by the entrance is counting down the minutes to something like 7.54am,
though at least the day is correct.

U

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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:14:37 -0800, Mizter T
wrote:

On 6 Nov, 08:57, Mizter T wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7080278.stm

The opening will happen this evening [...]

I'm currently watching the ghost of Barlow speak at a webcast of the
event he
http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/...st_pancras_web
cast.shtml

I watched it too.

Ditto - that was fun! And nice to see them making a big splash about
it.

Cabaret with garnish of spin.

Indeed - especially the bit about the benefits of development from the
property developer guy. And I'd have liked to have seen more of the
Class 395. But good to see them making a big fuss of re-opening a
railway station nevertheless.

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"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
.li...
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Paul Scott wrote:

The southbound route from Goods Way

(along Pancras Road)

is a taxi (and goods vehicle) only route

And pushbike! How about buses? Until recently, they were going that way
too, but now i think about it, i don't recall seeing any yesterday or this
morning on my way to work.

for the Kings Cross rank which is now on the west of that station (the
internal rank alongside KX platform 1 has been closed for a while. I
took a walk up there last Saturday, and its remarkable how many car
drivers didn't understand the signage, and found themselves in a queue of
taxis , with a double white line on their offside!

Well, car drivers are a dozy lot, so who can blame them.


Its that difficult to understand sign that usually gets referred to as
'Danger - low flying motorbikes' - most car drivers are pretty well aware of
the normal 'No Entry' sign...

Paul

"Chris Tolley" wrote in message
.. .
MichaelJP wrote:

"Mizter T" wrote in message
oups.com...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7080278.stm

The opening will happen this evening (not least because Bettie is a
bit tied up giving a speech at some riverside club house during the
day).

Surely to save taxpayers money, she should have made her way directly
there
in the golden coach straight after delivering Gordon's speech!

Perhaps the said coach is out of gauge on the Circle Line.


Perhaps the private underground railway doesn't go to St Pancras yet
either...

Paul

Paul Scott wrote:

Its that difficult to understand sign that usually gets referred to as
'Danger - low flying motorbikes' - most car drivers are pretty well
aware of the normal 'No Entry' sign...

The sign would have to be triangular to have the meaning you suggest.
Being circular it must prohibit low-flying motorbikes, like the one that
prohibits drivers of vehicles with sun roofs having yellow afro hairdos.

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On Wed, 7 Nov 2007, Chris Tolley wrote:

Paul Scott wrote:

Its that difficult to understand sign that usually gets referred to as
'Danger - low flying motorbikes' - most car drivers are pretty well
aware of the normal 'No Entry' sign...

The sign would have to be triangular to have the meaning you suggest.
Being circular it must prohibit low-flying motorbikes, like the one that
prohibits drivers of vehicles with sun roofs having yellow afro hairdos.

Ginger afros, isn't it?

tom

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Chris Tolley wrote:
Paul Scott wrote:

Its that difficult to understand sign that usually gets referred to as
'Danger - low flying motorbikes' - most car drivers are pretty well
aware of the normal 'No Entry' sign...

The sign would have to be triangular to have the meaning you suggest.
Being circular it must prohibit low-flying motorbikes, like the one that
prohibits drivers of vehicles with sun roofs having yellow afro hairdos.

I always figured it was to prevent people undertaking Evil Knevil type
stunts. Granted, jumping over a single car isn't that big a deal
considering what others ahve done, but you have to start somewhere.

Robin

I presume we won't be allowed into most of St Pancras when the Eurostars
start running, but are we allowed to explore it now?

"John Rowland" wrote in message
...

I presume we won't be allowed into most of St Pancras when the Eurostars
start running, but are we allowed to explore it now?

I don't think access will be as limited as you might imagine after next
Wednesday. Only the arrival and departure areas/lounges for Eurostar will be
off limits, where security and passport control takes place, but they are in
the undercroft level. There will be pretty good access otherwise, at both
undercroft level for the shops, and the route from the underground Western
ticket hall, past the Eurostar sales office to the domestic concourse, and
from the front of the station, at platform level, through the old taxi
access, across and up the west side all the way to the MML platforms.

If you were to have visited a few days ago, you wouldn't have got down the
length of the main shed, but only because shopfitting etc was still going
on, I'm not sure if any more has opened since the Queen's visit last night,
but as major stations go I believe access will be quite good...

A few months ago I had no problem walking to the end of one of the vacant
MML platforms for a look round, however they normally man their barriers if
there is a train there.

Paul