Thameslink and LUL changes in King's Cross
 

I know that the purpose of King's Cross Thameslink after December 9 has
been discussed at length on Usenet before, but it looks like TfL have
finally published some information related to this issue on the KXSP
project pages.

Shortly after the last FCC service departs from KCM at 01:06 LUL will
claim ownership of the station, which thereafter will be open
07:00-20:00, Mon-Fri. They do not say whether they will man the ticket
offices and/or if they will install any self-service ticket machines
there. (http://tinyurl.com/39lu4f)

According to the local press in Hertfordshire, First Capital Connect
will name one of their trains 'King's Cross Thameslink' at Brighton on
December 5 and another 'St Pancras International' at Bedford on December
9; in addition, the Transport Secretary will 'officially' open the new
Thameslink facilities at London St Pancras in front of 100 guests on
December 10. (http://tinyurl.com/399aly)

Almost forgot - TfL have just published a Nov07-Apr08 newletter about
NTH works progress at KXSP on the project pages. (http://tinyurl.com/38ftxu)

Thameslink and LUL changes in King's Cross
 

"Sky Rider" wrote in message
...
I know that the purpose of King's Cross Thameslink after December 9 has
been discussed at length on Usenet before, but it looks like TfL have
finally published some information related to this issue on the KXSP
project pages.

Shortly after the last FCC service departs from KCM at 01:06 LUL will
claim ownership of the station, which thereafter will be open 07:00-20:00,
Mon-Fri. They do not say whether they will man the ticket offices and/or
if they will install any self-service ticket machines there.
(http://tinyurl.com/39lu4f)

Do they really mean closing 'from 02:00 on Saturday 8 December' in their
announcement, or do they really mean 0200 Sunday morning, because the new
station isn't opening til the morning of the 9th is it, with the new
timetable date?

Paul S

Thameslink and LUL changes in King's Cross
 

Paul Scott wrote:
"Sky Rider" wrote in message
...
I know that the purpose of King's Cross Thameslink after December 9 has
been discussed at length on Usenet before, but it looks like TfL have
finally published some information related to this issue on the KXSP
project pages.

Shortly after the last FCC service departs from KCM at 01:06 LUL will
claim ownership of the station, which thereafter will be open 07:00-20:00,
Mon-Fri. They do not say whether they will man the ticket offices and/or
if they will install any self-service ticket machines there.
(http://tinyurl.com/39lu4f)

Do they really mean closing 'from 02:00 on Saturday 8 December' in their
announcement, or do they really mean 0200 Sunday morning, because the new
station isn't opening til the morning of the 9th is it, with the new
timetable date?

Paul S

I'm very sure they mean 02:00 on Sunday morning - and yes, platforms A
and B at London St Pancras will not open until around 09:00 (in tandem
with the timetable change) because the core Thameslink route will be
shut down until 08:45 on that same morning.

Thameslink and LUL changes in King's Cross
 

Sky Rider wrote:

According to the local press in Hertfordshire, First Capital Connect
will name one of their trains 'King's Cross Thameslink' at Brighton on
December 5 and another 'St Pancras International' at Bedford on December
9;

Am I the only one who thinks those are bizarre names for trains?
--
Michael Hoffman

Thameslink and LUL changes in King's Cross
 

"Michael Hoffman" wrote in message
...
Sky Rider wrote:

According to the local press in Hertfordshire, First Capital Connect
will name one of their trains 'King's Cross Thameslink' at Brighton on
December 5 and another 'St Pancras International' at Bedford on December
9;

Am I the only one who thinks those are bizarre names for trains?

At one time the LBSCR named its locos after places it served. Too many
passengers mistook the loco name for a destination board that they had to
change the names.

Peter

Thameslink and LUL changes in King's Cross
 

On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 15:07:54 -0000, "Peter Masson"
wrote:

At one time the LBSCR named its locos after places it served. Too many
passengers mistook the loco name for a destination board that they had to
change the names.

VT did that with the Voyagers, but I suspect people now expect an
electronic board so it is no longer an issue.

Neil

--
Neil Williams
Put my first name before the at to reply.

Thameslink and LUL changes in King's Cross
 

Am I the only one who thinks those are bizarre names for trains?

I actually like the idea of a train being named "Kings Cross Thameslink".
OK, so just standing on the platforms made you feel like a prostitute, but
the station was (is) an integral part of the Thameslink route - with an
interesting history to boot.

The station's totally inadequacy in respect to capacity and general
pleasantness spoke volumes in the history of that route as a whole. I'm sad
to see it go, but know that its way past its sell by date.

I'll say a quiet goodbye to it when I am next there a week on Saturday.

Best Wishes,
LEWIS

Thameslink and LUL changes in King's Cross
 

"Sky Rider" wrote in message
...
I know that the purpose of King's Cross Thameslink after December 9 has
been discussed at length on Usenet before, but it looks like TfL have
finally published some information related to this issue on the KXSP
project pages.

Shortly after the last FCC service departs from KCM at 01:06 LUL will
claim ownership of the station, which thereafter will be open 07:00-20:00,
Mon-Fri. They do not say whether they will man the ticket offices and/or
if they will install any self-service ticket machines there.
(http://tinyurl.com/39lu4f)

According to the local press in Hertfordshire, First Capital Connect will
name one of their trains 'King's Cross Thameslink' at Brighton on December
5 and another 'St Pancras International' at Bedford on December 9; in
addition, the Transport Secretary will 'officially' open the new
Thameslink facilities at London St Pancras in front of 100 guests on
December 10. (http://tinyurl.com/399aly)

Almost forgot - TfL have just published a Nov07-Apr08 newletter about NTH
works progress at KXSP on the project pages. (http://tinyurl.com/38ftxu)

Must admit that I don't understand all of what is going on here.

Why are they closing this station in the first place?

Will FCC trains keep to their original route and simply bypass that station
or are there plans for a reroute?

What are LUL's eventual plans for the station once it is closed, Crossrail?

Thameslink and LUL changes in King's Cross
 

"Sky Rider" wrote in message
...
I know that the purpose of King's Cross Thameslink after December 9 has
been discussed at length on Usenet before, but it looks like TfL have
finally published some information related to this issue on the KXSP
project pages.

Shortly after the last FCC service departs from KCM at 01:06 LUL will
claim ownership of the station, which thereafter will be open 07:00-20:00,
Mon-Fri. They do not say whether they will man the ticket offices and/or
if they will install any self-service ticket machines there.
(http://tinyurl.com/39lu4f)

Technically incorrect. FCC will cease operating it and it returns to NR who
will then allow TfL to operate it.

Last I heard, there are plans to install one of the new advanced fare
machines, but I'm not sure how that's progressing.

Thameslink and LUL changes in King's Cross
 

On 1 Dec, 20:28, wrote:
Why are they closing this station in the first place?

Because it's too small (both in terms of platform length and in
general) and can't be easily extended. They've built a replacement
under St Pancras a short distance away.

Will FCC trains keep to their original route and simply bypass that station
or are there plans for a reroute?

They'll continue to run through it, but won't stop.

What are LUL's eventual plans for the station once it is closed, Crossrail?

Presumably the platforms etc will be removed in due course. The
station entrance will stay open as an alternative entrance to the tube
station.

U

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