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All listed in the new GBPTT available on the Network Rail website:
Eastfields has this footnote: This station may open during the currency of this timetable, please see local publicity for further details. Imperial Wharf and Shepherds Bush have this one: It is unknown at the time of going to press, when this station will open. For further details please contact National Rail Enquiries 08457-484950 or see local publicity. I did hear a rumour that Shepherds Bush will open on Dec 10th 2007 but not sure if this is actually going to happen! |
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Shepherds Bush won't be opening any time soon. Seems the platforms are too
narrow to allow for all the shoppers in the Westfield centre and therefore looks like it might have to be demolished and rebuilt before opening! "Standing at HN28 signal" wrote in message ... All listed in the new GBPTT available on the Network Rail website: Eastfields has this footnote: This station may open during the currency of this timetable, please see local publicity for further details. Imperial Wharf and Shepherds Bush have this one: It is unknown at the time of going to press, when this station will open. For further details please contact National Rail Enquiries 08457-484950 or see local publicity. I did hear a rumour that Shepherds Bush will open on Dec 10th 2007 but not sure if this is actually going to happen! |
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Eastfields(it will probably be called Mitcham Eastfields) will be
opening at the start of the June timetable. Martin Whelton On 5 Dec, 18:44, "Steve" wrote: Shepherds Bush won't be opening any time soon. Seems the platforms are too narrow to allow for all the shoppers in the Westfield centre and therefore looks like it might have to be demolished and rebuilt before opening! "Standing at HN28 signal" wrote in ... All listed in the new GBPTT available on the Network Rail website: Eastfields has this footnote: This station may open during the currency of this timetable, please see local publicity for further details. Imperial Wharf and Shepherds Bush have this one: It is unknown at the time of going to press, when this station will open. For further details please contact National Rail Enquiries 08457-484950 or see local publicity. I did hear a rumour that Shepherds Bush will open on Dec 10th 2007 but not sure if this is actually going to happen!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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On 5 Dec, 18:44, "Steve" wrote:
Shepherds Bush won't be opening any time soon. Seems the platforms are too narrow to allow for all the shoppers in the Westfield centre and therefore looks like it might have to be demolished and rebuilt before opening! The plan appears to be to move the streetlamps and hope the H&S people make an exception, rather than a rebuild. http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk....8393fd5caa27f0 There was no sign of any progress when I went to have a look a week or two ago. TfL told me "by the end of the year" in a recent email. U -- http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/ A blog about transport projects in London |
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Steve wrote:
Shepherds Bush won't be opening any time soon. Seems the platforms are too narrow to allow for all the shoppers in the Westfield centre and therefore looks like it might have to be demolished and rebuilt before opening! So what's their reason for not opening the other platform? South Greenford operated as a one-way station for a year or two after one of the platforms went bungee jumping, and the Sudbury Picc stations were both one-way for a while during platform rebuilding. Not ideal, but better than a shut station... unless they are concerned that a one-way station on the maps for six months will bring a lot more embarrassing publicity than a shut station, and feigning competence is more important than helping the public get around. |
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On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 19:57:01 -0000, "John Rowland"
wrote: Steve wrote: Shepherds Bush won't be opening any time soon. Seems the platforms are too narrow to allow for all the shoppers in the Westfield centre and therefore looks like it might have to be demolished and rebuilt before opening! So what's their reason for not opening the other platform? South Greenford operated as a one-way station for a year or two after one of the platforms went bungee jumping, and the Sudbury Picc stations were both one-way for a while during platform rebuilding. Not ideal, but better than a shut station... unless they are concerned that a one-way station on the maps for six months will bring a lot more embarrassing publicity than a shut station, and feigning competence is more important than helping the public get around. I think the difference is that Shepherds Bush is a new station and must meet mandated standards before Works, Plant and Equipment (statutory safety) approval can be granted thus allowing public use. Let's be frank - the platform width issue at SB is a right royal cock up by several parties who have duties under Construction Design Management regulations to design correctly or to seek assurance or to grant approvals. Quite how three key activities were mucked up to this extent would make an interesting story. The other examples you quote are of places that effectively have grandfather rights exemption from complying with current standards. The use of one way systems at such sites are just a pragmatic way of managing disruption while works are undertaken to repair damage or replace worn out assets. These new works at existing locations would have to demonstrate compliance with applicable rules (subject to any concessions to standards that might have been granted). -- Paul C |
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Paul Corfield wrote:
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 19:57:01 -0000, "John Rowland" wrote: Steve wrote: Shepherds Bush won't be opening any time soon. Seems the platforms are too narrow to allow for all the shoppers in the Westfield centre and therefore looks like it might have to be demolished and rebuilt before opening! So what's their reason for not opening the other platform? South Greenford operated as a one-way station for a year or two after one of the platforms went bungee jumping, and the Sudbury Picc stations were both one-way for a while during platform rebuilding. Not ideal, but better than a shut station... unless they are concerned that a one-way station on the maps for six months will bring a lot more embarrassing publicity than a shut station, and feigning competence is more important than helping the public get around. I think the difference is that Shepherds Bush is a new station and must meet mandated standards before Works, Plant and Equipment (statutory safety) approval can be granted thus allowing public use. Let's be frank - the platform width issue at SB is a right royal cock up by several parties who have duties under Construction Design Management regulations to design correctly or to seek assurance or to grant approvals. Quite how three key activities were mucked up to this extent would make an interesting story. The other examples you quote are of places that effectively have grandfather rights exemption from complying with current standards. The use of one way systems at such sites are just a pragmatic way of managing disruption while works are undertaken to repair damage or replace worn out assets. These new works at existing locations would have to demonstrate compliance with applicable rules (subject to any concessions to standards that might have been granted). I find it hard to believe that opening a new one-way station now and making it two-way sixths months later would be illegal. |
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On Dec 5, 8:46 pm, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 19:57:01 -0000, "John Rowland" I think the difference is that Shepherds Bush is a new station and must meet mandated standards before Works, Plant and Equipment (statutory safety) approval can be granted thus allowing public use. Let's be frank - the platform width issue at SB is a right royal cock up by several parties who have duties under Construction Design Management regulations to design correctly or to seek assurance or to grant approvals. Too right! I went through SB on a Harrow to West brompton train and I could see that the platforms were quite laughably small. I could SEE it in one second - anyone could. How engineers in a country with 200 years of station-building experience thought it would be all right is ... it's just weird, I suppose... freaky. Mental would be another good word. |
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On 5 Dec, 21:25, "John Rowland"
wrote: Paul Corfield wrote: On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 19:57:01 -0000, "John Rowland" wrote: Steve wrote: Shepherds Bush won't be opening any time soon. Seems the platforms are too narrow to allow for all the shoppers in the Westfield centre and therefore looks like it might have to be demolished and rebuilt before opening! So what's their reason for not opening the other platform? South Greenford operated as a one-way station for a year or two after one of the platforms went bungee jumping, and the Sudbury Picc stations were both one-way for a while during platform rebuilding. Not ideal, but better than a shut station... unless they are concerned that a one-way station on the maps for six months will bring a lot more embarrassing publicity than a shut station, and feigning competence is more important than helping the public get around. I think the difference is that Shepherds Bush is a new station and must meet mandated standards before Works, Plant and Equipment (statutory safety) approval can be granted thus allowing public use. Let's be frank - the platform width issue at SB is a right royal cock up by several parties who have duties under Construction Design Management regulations to design correctly or to seek assurance or to grant approvals. Quite how three key activities were mucked up to this extent would make an interesting story. The other examples you quote are of places that effectively have grandfather rights exemption from complying with current standards. The use of one way systems at such sites are just a pragmatic way of managing disruption while works are undertaken to repair damage or replace worn out assets. These new works at existing locations would have to demonstrate compliance with applicable rules (subject to any concessions to standards that might have been granted). I find it hard to believe that opening a new one-way station now and making it two-way sixths months later would be illegal. Unlawful is probably the word you are looking for. Regardless of the legal situation half opening a new station for one- way travel only would cause a lot of confusion and annoyance - passengers could get there, but not back again. |
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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 00:55:18 -0800 (PST), Offramp
wrote: On Dec 5, 8:46 pm, Paul Corfield wrote: On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 19:57:01 -0000, "John Rowland" I think the difference is that Shepherds Bush is a new station and must meet mandated standards before Works, Plant and Equipment (statutory safety) approval can be granted thus allowing public use. Let's be frank - the platform width issue at SB is a right royal cock up by several parties who have duties under Construction Design Management regulations to design correctly or to seek assurance or to grant approvals. Too right! I went through SB on a Harrow to West brompton train and I could see that the platforms were quite laughably small. I could SEE it in one second - anyone could. How engineers in a country with 200 years of station-building experience thought it would be all right is ... it's just weird, I suppose... freaky. Mental would be another good word. Someone probably scaled from drawings rather than using figured dimensions! |
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"James Farrar" wrote in message
... On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 00:55:18 -0800 (PST), Offramp wrote: On Dec 5, 8:46 pm, Paul Corfield wrote: On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 19:57:01 -0000, "John Rowland" I think the difference is that Shepherds Bush is a new station and must meet mandated standards before Works, Plant and Equipment (statutory safety) approval can be granted thus allowing public use. Let's be frank - the platform width issue at SB is a right royal cock up by several parties who have duties under Construction Design Management regulations to design correctly or to seek assurance or to grant approvals. Too right! I went through SB on a Harrow to West brompton train and I could see that the platforms were quite laughably small. I could SEE it in one second - anyone could. How engineers in a country with 200 years of station-building experience thought it would be all right is ... it's just weird, I suppose... freaky. Mental would be another good word. Someone probably scaled from drawings rather than using figured dimensions! Fair enough - drawings usually say "do not scale from drawing", but I can understand someone doing it in the heat of the moment. But why was it not picked up by an inspector or supervisor? Irrespective of what the drawings may say or imply, any fool would spot that it didn't look right within a few seconds as James did when he passed through on the train. |
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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 09:28:04 -0000 someone who may be "Mortimer"
wrote this:- But why was it not picked up by an inspector or supervisor? Irrespective of what the drawings may say or imply, any fool would spot that it didn't look right within a few seconds as James did when he passed through on the train. Any contractor building it would build it to the drawing they had been given, even if they can see that it is wrong. Their reasoning is that it is a lucrative daywork to put it right. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54 |
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Mizter T wrote:
On 5 Dec, 21:25, "John Rowland" wrote: I find it hard to believe that opening a new one-way station now and making it two-way sixths months later would be illegal. Unlawful is probably the word you are looking for. Regardless of the legal situation half opening a new station for one- way travel only would cause a lot of confusion and annoyance - passengers could get there, but not back again. No, they'd just have to use the Central Line to get back. Their journey would be more convenient in one direction than the other, whereas now it's inconvenient in both directions. No-one would force them to use the new platform, so they could take the long way around in both directions if that annoyed them less. Anyone who lives or works near a one-way system and uses buses might already have a much more convenient journey in one direction than the other. The best driving route from A to B in the morning is not that likely to be the same as the best route back in the evening. When I lived on an extremely steep hill in Sheffield, I used to walk down the hill every morning to catch a single bus route to work. In the evening I would catch the same bus route back as far as the town centre, where I would change to a different route which would take me to the top of the hill so I would walk down to my flat. Although all the bus routes were two-way, my route was a lot less effort than doing the same route in both directions. It didn't confuse or annoy me. |
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On Dec 5, 6:44 pm, "Steve" wrote:
Shepherds Bush won't be opening any time soon. Seems the platforms are too narrow to allow for all the shoppers in the Westfield centre and therefore looks like it might have to be demolished and rebuilt before opening! More info he http://londonconnections.blogspot.co...m-debacle.html Dan |
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Dan G wrote:
On Dec 5, 6:44 pm, "Steve" wrote: Shepherds Bush won't be opening any time soon. Seems the platforms are too narrow to allow for all the shoppers in the Westfield centre and therefore looks like it might have to be demolished and rebuilt before opening! More info he http://londonconnections.blogspot.co...m-debacle.html I hope they get Spinal Tap to do the opening. |
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On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 21:25:46 -0000, "John Rowland"
wrote: Paul Corfield wrote: On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 19:57:01 -0000, "John Rowland" wrote: Steve wrote: Shepherds Bush won't be opening any time soon. Seems the platforms are too narrow to allow for all the shoppers in the Westfield centre and therefore looks like it might have to be demolished and rebuilt before opening! So what's their reason for not opening the other platform? South Greenford operated as a one-way station for a year or two after one of the platforms went bungee jumping, and the Sudbury Picc stations were both one-way for a while during platform rebuilding. Not ideal, but better than a shut station... unless they are concerned that a one-way station on the maps for six months will bring a lot more embarrassing publicity than a shut station, and feigning competence is more important than helping the public get around. I think the difference is that Shepherds Bush is a new station and must meet mandated standards before Works, Plant and Equipment (statutory safety) approval can be granted thus allowing public use. Let's be frank - the platform width issue at SB is a right royal cock up by several parties who have duties under Construction Design Management regulations to design correctly or to seek assurance or to grant approvals. Quite how three key activities were mucked up to this extent would make an interesting story. The other examples you quote are of places that effectively have grandfather rights exemption from complying with current standards. The use of one way systems at such sites are just a pragmatic way of managing disruption while works are undertaken to repair damage or replace worn out assets. These new works at existing locations would have to demonstrate compliance with applicable rules (subject to any concessions to standards that might have been granted). I find it hard to believe that opening a new one-way station now and making it two-way sixths months later would be illegal. With the present (overground) timetable could they not open the eastern platform as a bidirectional one, if the Southern trains did not stop? -- Peter Lawrence |
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Another slightly annoying thing is the name, Shepherd's Bush.
"What are we going to call this brand new station, then?" "Shepherd's Bush." "Right. So it doesn't matter that there's already a Shepherd's Bush on the Central Line?" "No." "And that there's a Shepherd's Bush on the Hammersmith & City Line?" "No." "And that people are already confused..." "No." "So we're going to call it...." "Shepherd's Bush. No other names are available." |
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On Dec 6, 3:20 pm, Offramp wrote:
Another slightly annoying thing is the name, Shepherd's Bush. "What are we going to call this brand new station, then?" "Shepherd's Bush." "Right. So it doesn't matter that there's already a Shepherd's Bush on the Central Line?" "No." "And that there's a Shepherd's Bush on the Hammersmith & City Line?" "No." "And that people are already confused..." "No." "So we're going to call it...." "Shepherd's Bush. No other names are available." To be fair, it will interchange with the central line so calling them both Shepherd's Bush makes sense. The H&C one needs a rename, mind. Preferably along with Bethnal Green (NR), Edware Road (Bakerloo), Caledonian Road & Barnsbury and Finchley Road & Frognal. Confusing buggers. Jonn |
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On 6 Dec, 15:20, Offramp wrote:
Another slightly annoying thing is the name, Shepherd's Bush. "What are we going to call this brand new station, then?" "Shepherd's Bush." "Right. So it doesn't matter that there's already a Shepherd's Bush on the Central Line?" "No." "And that there's a Shepherd's Bush on the Hammersmith & City Line?" "No." "And that people are already confused..." "No." "So we're going to call it...." "Shepherd's Bush. No other names are available." One of the reasons for building is to interchange with the Central Line station next door, so giving them the same name makes a lot of sense. The H&C station is being renamed Shepherd's Bush Market in the next year or two. U |
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"Peter Lawrence" wrote in message ... On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 21:25:46 -0000, "John Rowland" wrote: I find it hard to believe that opening a new one-way station now and making it two-way sixths months later would be illegal. With the present (overground) timetable could they not open the eastern platform as a bidirectional one, if the Southern trains did not stop? I thought the current NR timetable allows for trains stopping at Shepherds Bush, as announced back in May or so, in the expectation the station would open. I can't quite see why Southern not stopping would affect matters though... Paul S |
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With the present (overground) timetable could they not open the
eastern platform as a bidirectional one, if the Southern trains did not stop? Alternatively, open it as an alighting-only station for a limited period (which TfL seem quite happy to do at certain times with busy Underground stations), monitor the way people move around the platforms and use that information to establish exactly what needs doing. |
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On Dec 6, 3:52 pm, Mr Thant
wrote: On 6 Dec, 15:20, Offramp wrote: reasons for building is to interchange with the Central Line station next door, so giving them the same name makes a lot of sense. The H&C station is being renamed Shepherd's Bush Market in the next year or two. Thanks for pointing that out - I did not know that, so my criticism was definitely unfair. Renaming SB on the H+C is a good idea - and SBM is a good choice. |
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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Mr Thant wrote:
On 6 Dec, 15:20, Offramp wrote: Another slightly annoying thing is the name, Shepherd's Bush. "What are we going to call this brand new station, then?" "Shepherd's Bush." "Right. So it doesn't matter that there's already a Shepherd's Bush on the Central Line?" "No." "And that there's a Shepherd's Bush on the Hammersmith & City Line?" "No." "And that people are already confused..." "No." "So we're going to call it...." "Shepherd's Bush. No other names are available." One of the reasons for building is to interchange with the Central Line station next door, so giving them the same name makes a lot of sense. The H&C station is being renamed Shepherd's Bush Market in the next year or two. Is it going to be a true interchange, or an outerchange? Will there be a behind-the-gateline route from WLL to Central platforms? tom -- We got our own sense of propaganda. We call it truth. -- Rex Steele, Nazi Smasher |
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"Tom Anderson" wrote in message h.li... On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Mr Thant wrote: One of the reasons for building is to interchange with the Central Line station next door, so giving them the same name makes a lot of sense. The H&C station is being renamed Shepherd's Bush Market in the next year or two. Is it going to be a true interchange, or an outerchange? Will there be a behind-the-gateline route from WLL to Central platforms? No, its an outerchange. We discussed this a while ago [on uk.t.l], cos there is an escape stair shaft on the WLL side of the bus station [the site immediately next to the new station], but it appears normal interchange will be via a pedestrian crossing at the junction with the main road. I guess an underground paid side interchange to the WLL station would have been difficult to engineer, in view of the footbridge access to the eastmost platform? Presumably though, access to the actual shopping development may be via either side of the bus station? Paul |
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On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 18:44:12 -0000, "Steve"
wrote: Shepherds Bush won't be opening any time soon. Seems the platforms are too narrow to allow for all the shoppers in the Westfield centre and therefore looks like it might have to be demolished and rebuilt before opening! What is the current width of the platforms here? I'm reminded of Clapham Common and Clapham North which have survived as very narrow island platforms on the northern Line. Dave |
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"Dave" wrote in message ... On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 18:44:12 -0000, "Steve" wrote: Shepherds Bush won't be opening any time soon. Seems the platforms are too narrow to allow for all the shoppers in the Westfield centre and therefore looks like it might have to be demolished and rebuilt before opening! What is the current width of the platforms here? I'm reminded of Clapham Common and Clapham North which have survived as very narrow island platforms on the northern Line. Not much - the photos on Mr Thant's blog show it well. Linked to earlier, but in case you missed it: http://londonconnections.blogspot.co...m-debacle.html Paul S |
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On 6 Dec, 18:19, "Paul Scott" wrote:
I guess an underground paid side interchange to the WLL station would have been difficult to engineer, in view of the footbridge access to the eastmost platform? The station building itself is level with the footbridge, so that's not an issue. I think it would have been fairly straightforward to have escalators coming up behind the gateline at concourse level, then stairs and lifts down to the platforms as now. But the new building isn't big enough for this, and it'd be bloody expensive just for interchange. If they'd combined the two projects so that the WLL station was also be the new Central Line station, it might have made sense. Presumably though, access to the actual shopping development may be via either side of the bus station? The shopping centre entrance is on the west side of the road, but there'll be a crossing outside. U -- http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/ A blog about transport projects in London |
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David Hansen wrote:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 09:28:04 -0000 someone who may be "Mortimer" wrote this:- But why was it not picked up by an inspector or supervisor? Irrespective of what the drawings may say or imply, any fool would spot that it didn't look right within a few seconds as James did when he passed through on the train. Any contractor building it would build it to the drawing they had been given, even if they can see that it is wrong. Their reasoning is that it is a lucrative daywork to put it right. A mate has an engraving business. BNFL wanted some new indicator boards naming, so sent him the drawings. He saw immediately that they were wrong, so rang them. "What version drawing have you got?" "X.XX" "Well, thats the latest, so they cannot be wrong. Get the signs done, as we need them ASAP" So he made them, sent them off Special Delivery, and got a phone call the next day - "these signs are not right" "I know, you told me to make them, even though I told you they were wrong" "Well, the drawing has been changed since, so remake them to the new drawing." That'd be the new drawing that he hadnt got, but which apparently was version 1 of the drawings. So they sent him a new set of drawings by fax. Which were exactly the same as before. He didnt want to go through with the rigmarole again, so said he wasnt making them again until the proper drawings were sent. Who he spoke to was adamant that the drawings were right. He said he comes across such incompetence every week of the year - he had an engineering graduate come to have a look at what he does - the grad picked up a digital vernier guage and said "i've never seen one of these in the flesh before". He was astounded - apparently Eng. Grads. no longer do any practical work at all, they just sit in front of a computer to do their designs/work, so I can understand why the platform width wasnt noticed. Alan. -- To reply by e-mail, change the ' + ' to 'plus'. |
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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Paul Scott wrote:
"Tom Anderson" wrote in message h.li... On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Mr Thant wrote: One of the reasons for building is to interchange with the Central Line station next door, so giving them the same name makes a lot of sense. The H&C station is being renamed Shepherd's Bush Market in the next year or two. Is it going to be a true interchange, or an outerchange? Will there be a behind-the-gateline route from WLL to Central platforms? No, its an outerchange. We discussed this a while ago [on uk.t.l], Oh yes, so we did, apologies. I guess an underground paid side interchange to the WLL station would have been difficult to engineer, in view of the footbridge access to the eastmost platform? I have to confess i haven't a clue how the Central line platforms and associated gubbins are laid out, so no idea! tom -- Osteoclasts = monsters from the DEEP -- Andrew |
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On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 09:54:12 +0000, David Hansen
wrote: On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 09:28:04 -0000 someone who may be "Mortimer" wrote this:- But why was it not picked up by an inspector or supervisor? Irrespective of what the drawings may say or imply, any fool would spot that it didn't look right within a few seconds as James did when he passed through on the train. Any contractor building it would build it to the drawing they had been given, even if they can see that it is wrong. Their reasoning is that it is a lucrative daywork to put it right. This wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. The amazing thing is that it wasn't picked up at any stage pre-construction. Once drawings are status "A", they just get built, as they've been approved for construction as-is. |
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"Charles Ellson" wrote The H&C one needs a rename, mind. According to various sources, it is to be renamed "Shepherds Bush Market" (apostrophes optional g). What is the new H&C station ( at Wood Lane) going to be called? Peter |
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"Peter Masson" wrote in message ... "Charles Ellson" wrote The H&C one needs a rename, mind. According to various sources, it is to be renamed "Shepherds Bush Market" (apostrophes optional g). What is the new H&C station ( at Wood Lane) going to be called? The new names for the two H&C stations were confirmed in a TfL press release back in November 2006. "London Underground (LU) today announced that the new station currently under construction on the Hammersmith & City line at the White City development will be known as Wood Lane when it opens in 2008[1]. "The existing Shepherd's Bush (Hammersmith & City) station will be renamed Shepherd's Bush Market at the same time." http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/medi...ntre/3451.aspx [1] platform width dependent I should imagine... Paul S |
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"Standing at HN28 signal" wrote in message ... All listed in the new GBPTT available on the Network Rail website: Eastfields has this footnote: This station may open during the currency of this timetable, please see local publicity for further details. Imperial Wharf and Shepherds Bush have this one: It is unknown at the time of going to press, when this station will open. For further details please contact National Rail Enquiries 08457-484950 or see local publicity. I did hear a rumour that Shepherds Bush will open on Dec 10th 2007 but not sure if this is actually going to happen! Kings Cross Thameslink closed at close of service on Saturday 8th December 2007 and St.Pancras Internationa (Low Level) opened following morning On the DLR (Stratford branch) Langdon Park station opened believed to be on the Saturday 8th December (definetly open on the Sunday as I was there) |
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On 6 Dec, 23:36, Tom Anderson wrote:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Paul Scott wrote: "Tom Anderson" wrote in message th.li... On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Mr Thant wrote: One of the reasons for building is to interchange with the Central Line station next door, so giving them the same name makes a lot of sense. The H&C station is being renamed Shepherd'sBushMarket in the next year or two. Is it going to be a true interchange, or an outerchange? Will there be a behind-the-gateline route from WLL to Central platforms? No, its an outerchange. We discussed this a while ago [on uk.t.l], Oh yes, so we did, apologies. I guess an underground paid side interchange to the WLL station would have been difficult to engineer, in view of the footbridge access to the eastmost platform? I have to confess i haven't a clue how the Central line platforms and associated gubbins are laid out, so no idea! tom -- Osteoclasts = monsters from the DEEP -- Andrew Given that Shepherds Bush (Central Line) is to close for eight months from 2 February 2008, perhaps the opening of the Overground Station will not happen until at least October when the Central Line station reopens. http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/medi...ntre/6871.aspx Any interchange possibilities (which are considerable for anyone travelling from west / north west London to South London) which the opening of Shepherds Bush (London Overground) would have brought will have to wait until October anyway. Jonathan |
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On Dec 6, 7:43 am, wrote:
Finchley Road & Frognal. Why do you think that is confusing ? It is no different to main town name + suffix, i.e. Gatepost, and Gatepost West. & Frognal can be thought of as a suffix. -- Nick |
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On Dec 18, 11:44 pm, wrote:
On 6 Dec, 23:36, Tom Anderson wrote: On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Paul Scott wrote: "Tom Anderson" wrote in message th.li... On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Mr Thant wrote: One of the reasons for building is to interchange with the Central Line station next door, so giving them the same name makes a lot of sense. The H&C station is being renamed Shepherd'sBushMarket in the next year or two. Is it going to be a true interchange, or an outerchange? Will there be a behind-the-gateline route from WLL to Central platforms? No, its an outerchange. We discussed this a while ago [on uk.t.l], Oh yes, so we did, apologies. I guess an underground paid side interchange to the WLL station would have been difficult to engineer, in view of the footbridge access to the eastmost platform? I have to confess i haven't a clue how the Central line platforms and associated gubbins are laid out, so no idea! tom -- Osteoclasts = monsters from the DEEP -- Andrew Given that Shepherds Bush (Central Line) is to close for eight months from 2 February 2008, perhaps the opening of the Overground Station will not happen until at least October when the Central Line station reopens. http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/medi...ntre/6871.aspx Any interchange possibilities (which are considerable for anyone travelling from west / north west London to South London) which the opening of Shepherds Bush (London Overground) would have brought will have to wait until October anyway. Jonathan Of interest, since the new timetable started, is that the Southern services that I get fairly regularly from Harrow & Wealdstone to Clapham Junction are stopping at the Shepherd's Bush platform, but not opening the doors. At least they are southbound, not travelled on a northbound train yet to see if they do as well. |
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