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Sky Rider December 9th 07 07:46 PM

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snip

And now someone has published a nice collection of KCM/StP photos on
Flickr. http://tinyurl.com/yt3tym

[I don't intend to make a habit of replying to my own posts in case
you're wondering - but IMO the publication of the first set of these
particular photos justifies this instance.]

Frank Incense December 9th 07 08:42 PM

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TL commmuters are used to using their phones in KXTL (and Farringdon)
so will not be happy.

Well I will be happy - not having to put up with their (most of the time)
pointless conversations that could easily wait.


Colin Rosenstiel December 9th 07 10:49 PM

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In article ,
(Stuart) wrote:

Peter Lawrence wrote:

TL commmuters are used to using their phones in KXTL (and
Farringdon) so will not be happy.


They might have ben used to it at the old station, but that was
because they could see the open air. Surely the automatic
assumption is that if you're underground you won't be able to use
your phone?


Not necessarily. My mobile works fine on St James Park platforms, for
example.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Colin Rosenstiel December 9th 07 10:49 PM

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In article ,
(Sky Rider) wrote:

*Subject:* St P.I..L.L Impressions.
*From:* Sky Rider
*Date:* Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:08:11 GMT

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
Do you have to buy a glass to use a seat?


There are a handful of public seats on the Midland Main Line
concourse and on the Thameslink platforms, but the rest of the
seats are allocated to cafes, restaurants and the champagne bar
(which has plenty of seats, hence my earlier remark).


Yes, I know that. But do you have to buy a glass of champagne to use a
seat in the champagne bar?

Not so much legendary as long departed. You mean Midland Curve

surely?
Hotel Curve was from the Widened Lines up to the King's Cross

suburban
platform 16, long since gone.


If the Midland Curve is the section of King's Cross Tunnel where
the carriage length limit is significantly restricted due to the
severity of the curve then yes.


That's not as helpful as you might think. IIRC all the Widened Lines
curves were restricted by sharp curvature to some extent.

How will one get a bike between the platforms and street level
then?


If the lifts (let's call them 1 and 2) are big enough then your
options a
Street level - Lift 1 - Southbound platform
Street level - Lift 1 - Mezzanine - Lift 2 - Northbound platform


Ugh!

--
Colin

Richardr December 9th 07 10:49 PM

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In article ,
says...

TL commmuters are used to using their phones in KXTL (and Farringdon)
so will not be happy.


Do they work at City?


Yes

jonmorris December 9th 07 11:19 PM

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On 9 Dec, 23:49, Richardr wrote:

Do they work at City?


Yes


It's going to be hit and miss, depending on the network, handset and
other conditions. And, between Farringdon and King's Cross TL you
wouldn't maintain a signal all the way - so it's not going to make too
much of a difference.

However, in due course, I'd expect to see proper coverage at these
stations and many more (plus inbetween) - depending on the results of
the Waterloo & City line trial.

Jonathan



jonmorris December 9th 07 11:21 PM

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On 9 Dec, 19:38, Roland Perry wrote:

Kiddy toys. I need proper Internet access.


Well, the new BlackBerry models now have 1) A proper web browser and
2) Wi-Fi... so these users will want fast, cheap Internet access too.

Personally, I use HSDPA to get 3.6 (or soon 7.2Mbps) for myself - but
Wi-Fi still has its place. StP will be getting it, but it seems to
have been delayed.

Jonathan

Garry Smith December 10th 07 08:09 AM

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"Peter Lawrence" wrote in message
...

First impressions of the Thameslink platforms at St Pancras which
opened on time this morning (after what must have been a massive
tidy-up operation).


I have to confess that I hadn't appreciated how far I'd have to
walk between the new station and the Underground. Being used
to nipping between KX TL and the Victoria Line, this morning's
hike - up out of the new station, then along the full length of
St P, and then back down to the Tube - came as an unpleasant
surprise.

For those whom it suits, Farringdon, Blackfriars, or even Kentish
Town may be a better interchange.

Even though the new station and the Underground are not directly
linked, a few signs saying "Underground this way" would be good.
Otherwise folks unfamiliar with the new station have to guess that
to get to the Underground they have to follow the "Way Out" signs.
--
Garry Smith




Martin Rich December 10th 07 08:10 AM

St P.I..L.L Impressions.
 
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 23:49 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),
(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:

In article ,
(Stuart) wrote:



They might have ben used to it at the old station, but that was
because they could see the open air. Surely the automatic
assumption is that if you're underground you won't be able to use
your phone?


Not necessarily. My mobile works fine on St James Park platforms, for
example.


Mobiles also work throughout the Heathrow Express. And, for that
matter, the rail station underneath Schipol, to name just one :-)

Martin


Mizter T December 10th 07 08:41 AM

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On 10 Dec, 09:09, "Garry Smith" wrote:
"Peter Lawrence" wrote in message

...



First impressions of the Thameslink platforms at St Pancras which
opened on time this morning (after what must have been a massive
tidy-up operation).


I have to confess that I hadn't appreciated how far I'd have to
walk between the new station and the Underground. Being used
to nipping between KX TL and the Victoria Line, this morning's
hike - up out of the new station, then along the full length of
St P, and then back down to the Tube - came as an unpleasant
surprise.

For those whom it suits, Farringdon, Blackfriars, or even Kentish
Town may be a better interchange.

Even though the new station and the Underground are not directly
linked, a few signs saying "Underground this way" would be good.
Otherwise folks unfamiliar with the new station have to guess that
to get to the Underground they have to follow the "Way Out" signs.
--
Garry Smith



I suspect there will be many other commuters today who will similarly
find the location of the new station's to be an unpleasant surprise
when it comes to interchange with the deep-level tube lines.


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