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The tube wasn't completely closed on Christmas Day... :(
....sadly vandals and the otherwise bored and useless of London decided to spend Christmas Day at Mile End station. Graffiti artist(s) evidently had plenty of time to put meaningless scrawls on most surfaces and hoardings on the platforms. I didn't bother venturing off the very crowded train to see if they had defaced the booking hall. -- Paul G Typing from Barking |
The tube wasn't completely closed on Christmas Day... :(
...sadly vandals and the otherwise bored and useless of London decided to spend Christmas Day at Mile End station. Graffiti artist(s) evidently had plenty of time to put meaningless scrawls on most surfaces and hoardings on the platforms. I didn't bother venturing off the very crowded train to see if they had defaced the booking hall. How did they even get inside? :-( P.S. Tube website consistently shown entire tube network having "good service" yesterday! |
The tube wasn't completely closed on Christmas Day... :(
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alex_t wrote: ...sadly vandals and the otherwise bored and useless of London decided to spend Christmas Day at Mile End station. Graffiti artist(s) evidently had plenty of time to put meaningless scrawls on most surfaces and hoardings on the platforms. I didn't bother venturing off the very crowded train to see if they had defaced the booking hall. How did they even get inside? :-( Walk from Stratford? It's thought that the Camden Town vandels walked from East Finchley or Golders Green. -- Shenanigans! Shenanigans! Best of 3! -- Flash |
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"Mike Bristow" wrote in message ... In article , alex_t wrote: ...sadly vandals and the otherwise bored and useless of London decided to spend Christmas Day at Mile End station. Graffiti artist(s) evidently had plenty of time to put meaningless scrawls on most surfaces and hoardings on the platforms. I didn't bother venturing off the very crowded train to see if they had defaced the booking hall. How did they even get inside? :-( Walk from Stratford? It's thought that the Camden Town vandels walked from East Finchley or Golders Green. Thanks, I was trying to recall the site of last years similar incident. Thought here at the time to be a bit of an embarrasment for LU, given the huge amount of CCTV installed everywhere. I wonder if or why they thought it wouldn't happen again... Paul |
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Walk from Stratford? It's thought that the Camden Town vandels walked from East Finchley or Golders Green. That's crazy! What if the train would pass? I mean, there is absolutely no hiding place in tube tunnels, isn't it? |
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On Dec 26, 5:27 pm, alex_t wrote:
...sadly vandals and the otherwise bored and useless of London decided to spend Christmas Day at Mile End station. Graffiti artist(s) evidently had plenty of time to put meaningless scrawls on most surfaces and hoardings on the platforms. I didn't bother venturing off the very crowded train to see if they had defaced the booking hall. How did they even get inside? :-( P.S. Tube website consistently shown entire tube network having "good service" yesterday! Possibly the only day of the year the service bulletin is entirely accurate. The vandals could have got in at Whitechapel. Its not far to walk from there. Neill |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:08:30 +0000, Paul G
wrote: ...sadly vandals and the otherwise bored and useless of London decided to spend Christmas Day at Mile End station. Graffiti artist(s) evidently had plenty of time to put meaningless scrawls on most surfaces and hoardings on the platforms. I didn't bother venturing off the very crowded train to see if they had defaced the booking hall. Earl's Court District Line platforms have also been hit. Any others? -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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"Paul Scott" wrote in message
... "Mike Bristow" wrote in message ... In article , alex_t wrote: ...sadly vandals and the otherwise bored and useless of London decided to spend Christmas Day at Mile End station. Graffiti artist(s) evidently had plenty of time to put meaningless scrawls on most surfaces and hoardings on the platforms. I didn't bother venturing off the very crowded train to see if they had defaced the booking hall. How did they even get inside? :-( Walk from Stratford? It's thought that the Camden Town vandels walked from East Finchley or Golders Green. Thanks, I was trying to recall the site of last years similar incident. Thought here at the time to be a bit of an embarrasment for LU, given the huge amount of CCTV installed everywhere. I wonder if or why they thought it wouldn't happen again... The graffiti incident earlier this year, which ended terminally for two people involved, was at Barking depot: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6258337.stm -- David Biddulph |
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Nicholas wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:08:30 +0000, Paul G wrote: ...sadly vandals and the otherwise bored and useless of London decided to spend Christmas Day at Mile End station. Graffiti artist(s) evidently had plenty of time to put meaningless scrawls on most surfaces and hoardings on the platforms. I didn't bother venturing off the very crowded train to see if they had defaced the booking hall. Earl's Court District Line platforms have also been hit. Any others? East & Westbound platforms at Arsenal, Holloway Road & Caledonian Road noted covered in graffiti earlier today. -- Phil Richards, London, UK 3,600+ railway photos since 1980 at: http://europeanrail.fotopic.net http://britishrail.fotopic.net |
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"David Biddulph" groups [at] biddulph.org.uk wrote in message ... "Paul Scott" wrote in message ... "Mike Bristow" wrote in message ... In article , alex_t wrote: ...sadly vandals and the otherwise bored and useless of London decided to spend Christmas Day at Mile End station. Graffiti artist(s) evidently had plenty of time to put meaningless scrawls on most surfaces and hoardings on the platforms. I didn't bother venturing off the very crowded train to see if they had defaced the booking hall. How did they even get inside? :-( Walk from Stratford? It's thought that the Camden Town vandels walked from East Finchley or Golders Green. Thanks, I was trying to recall the site of last years similar incident. Thought here at the time to be a bit of an embarrasment for LU, given the huge amount of CCTV installed everywhere. I wonder if or why they thought it wouldn't happen again... The graffiti incident earlier this year, which ended terminally for two people involved, was at Barking depot: That was on the working railway though - on Christmas day last year, with the network shut down, the offenders walked down the tunnels, which seems to have been the m.o. on this occasion too... Is the traction current off during the shut down period? Paul S |
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alex_t wrote: Walk from Stratford? It's thought that the Camden Town vandels walked from East Finchley or Golders Green. That's crazy! I do not pretend to understand this particular brand of idiocy. What if the train would pass? I mean, there is absolutely no hiding place in tube tunnels, isn't it? 'Twas the night before Christmas, when all thro' the tube, [1] Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse; The carriages where parked in the sidings with care, In hopes that no vandals would ever be there; The drivers were nestled all snug in there beds, While visions of Tripcocks danced in their heads. (etc, etc, etc). [1] Christmas day is more likely. -- Shenanigans! Shenanigans! Best of 3! -- Flash |
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writes ...sadly vandals and the otherwise bored and useless of London decided to spend Christmas Day at Mile End station. Graffiti artist(s) evidently had plenty of time to put meaningless scrawls on most surfaces and hoardings on the platforms. I didn't bother venturing off the very crowded train to see if they had defaced the booking hall. Earl's Court District Line platforms have also been hit. Any others? Arsenal, Holloway Road and Caledonian Road on the Piccadilly line. Now how did they get in there? -- Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building. You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK (please use the reply to address for email) |
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On Dec 26, 10:31 pm, "Paul Scott"
wrote: "David Biddulph" groups [at] biddulph.org.uk wrote in m... "Paul Scott" wrote in message ... "Mike Bristow" wrote in message ... In article , alex_t wrote: ...sadly vandals and the otherwise bored and useless of London decided to spend Christmas Day at Mile End station. Graffiti artist(s) evidently had plenty of time to put meaningless scrawls on most surfaces and hoardings on the platforms. I didn't bother venturing off the very crowded train to see if they had defaced the booking hall. How did they even get inside? :-( Walk from Stratford? It's thought that the Camden Town vandels walked from East Finchley or Golders Green. Thanks, I was trying to recall the site of last years similar incident. Thought here at the time to be a bit of an embarrasment for LU, given the huge amount of CCTV installed everywhere. I wonder if or why they thought it wouldn't happen again... The graffiti incident earlier this year, which ended terminally for two people involved, was at Barking depot: That was on the working railway though - on Christmas day last year, with the network shut down, the offenders walked down the tunnels, which seems to have been the m.o. on this occasion too... Is the traction current off during the shut down period? Paul S Traction Current is switched off at close of traffic each day. Unless required for engineering works or sleet working. Trains (battery/ diesel) cannot run without Traction Current being on, unless in a Specified Area. |
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On Dec 26, 9:08*am, Paul G wrote:
...sadly vandals and the otherwise bored and useless of London decided to spend Christmas Day at Mile End station. Graffiti artist(s) evidently had plenty of time to put meaningless scrawls on most surfaces and hoardings on the platforms. *I didn't bother venturing off the very crowded train to see if they had defaced the booking hall. -- Paul G Typing from Barking Who, here, believes that this would have happened, in the UK on December 25, 1957? Adrian |
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On 27 Dec, 00:18, Adrian wrote:
On Dec 26, 9:08 am, Paul G wrote: ...sadly vandals and the otherwise bored and useless of London decided to spend Christmas Day at Mile End station. Graffiti artist(s) evidently had plenty of time to put meaningless scrawls on most surfaces and hoardings on the platforms. I didn't bother venturing off the very crowded train to see if they had defaced the booking hall. -- Paul G Typing from Barking Who, here, believes that this would have happened, in the UK on December 25, 1957? Adrian I don't know if that specific type of incident would have happened, but I've a cutting from The Times, dated May 30 1960, and headed "Wave of Hooliganism Sweeps British Railways". It mentions units at Victoria with smashed windows and damaged seats, fittings missing and door locks unscrewed. The Southern Region were operating a special squad of 50 men who worked every Sunday to repair units ready for Monday. It reports 5472 separate items of deliberate damage during the preceding month. It also says that: "The Midland Region said that ceilings, walls and draught strips had been damaged on new stock for the Manchester - Bury electric trains. Window sealings had been ripped out, transfers removed from windows, mirrors broken, maps damaged, and seats ruined within a few weeks". And if you go to the Railways Archive, you can read the report into the accident at Smedley Viaduct, Manchester, in 1959. It was caused by vandals interfering with signalling equipment, and some of the comments are worth reading: http://tinyurl.com/32xfgp It's a problem that's been around for a long time. |
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Steve Fitzgerald wrote:
In message , Nicholas writes ...sadly vandals and the otherwise bored and useless of London decided to spend Christmas Day at Mile End station. Arsenal, Holloway Road and Caledonian Road on the Piccadilly line. Now how did they get in there? York Road? |
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On Dec 26, 4:55*pm, wrote:
On 27 Dec, 00:18, Adrian wrote: On Dec 26, 9:08 am, Paul G wrote: ...sadly vandals and the otherwise bored and useless of London decided to spend Christmas Day at Mile End station. Graffiti artist(s) evidently had plenty of time to put meaningless scrawls on most surfaces and hoardings on the platforms. *I didn't bother venturing off the very crowded train to see if they had defaced the booking hall. -- Paul G Typing from Barking Who, here, believes that this would have happened, in the UK on December 25, 1957? Adrian I don't know if that specific type of incident would have happened, but I've a cutting from The Times, dated May 30 1960, and headed "Wave of Hooliganism Sweeps British Railways". It mentions units at Victoria with smashed windows and damaged seats, fittings missing and door locks unscrewed. *The Southern Region were operating a special squad of 50 men who worked every Sunday to repair units ready for Monday. *It reports 5472 separate items of deliberate damage during the preceding month. It also says that: "The Midland Region said that ceilings, walls and draught strips had been damaged on new stock for the Manchester - Bury electric trains. *Window sealings had been ripped out, transfers removed from windows, mirrors broken, maps damaged, and seats ruined within a few weeks". And if you go to the Railways Archive, you can read the report into the accident at Smedley Viaduct, Manchester, in 1959. *It was caused by vandals interfering with signalling equipment, and some of the comments are worth reading: http://tinyurl.com/32xfgp It's a problem that's been around for a long time. Thank you. That pretty much answers the question. Adrian |
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On Dec 26, 9:08 am, Paul G wrote: ...sadly vandals and the otherwise bored and useless of London decided to spend Christmas Day at Mile End station. Graffiti artist(s) evidently had plenty of time to put meaningless scrawls on most surfaces and hoardings on the platforms. I didn't bother venturing off the very crowded train to see if they had defaced the booking hall. -- Paul G Typing from Barking Who, here, believes that this would have happened, in the UK on December 25, 1957? Presumably modern graffiti relies on spray paint cans that weren't yet invented in 1957. |
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Recliner wrote: "Adrian" wrote in message On Dec 26, 9:08 am, Paul G wrote: ...sadly vandals and the otherwise bored and useless of London decided to spend Christmas Day at Mile End station. Graffiti artist(s) evidently had plenty of time to put meaningless scrawls on most surfaces and hoardings on the platforms. I didn't bother venturing off the very crowded train to see if they had defaced the booking hall. Who, here, believes that this would have happened, in the UK on December 25, 1957? Presumably modern graffiti relies on spray paint cans that weren't yet invented in 1957. Quite. In earlier days it had to be brush-painted: there are some fine examples of early 1960s brush-painted slogans around here http://www.startadsl.hu/malex/Tryweryn.htm though as it's now something of a treasured monument it's best regarded as "heavily restored". In earlier days still chalking and pasting up block-print posters were the facoured methods - those and carving initials into brick and stonework. A local preserved railway has some examples of this sort of vandalism dating back to the 1870s... -- Andy Breen ~ Not speaking on behalf of the University of Wales, Aberystwyth "Who dies with the most toys wins" (Gary Barnes) |
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Who, here, believes that this would have happened, in the UK on December 25, 1957? Well, considering that there were X-mas services back then - I believe it would have less chance to happen. |
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Nicholas wrote:
Earl's Court District Line platforms have also been hit. Any others? Ealing Broadway Colin McKenzie -- No-one has ever proved that cycle helmets make cycling any safer at the population level, and anyway cycling is about as safe per mile as walking. Make an informed choice - visit www.cyclehelmets.org. |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 22:27:01 +0000, Phil Richards
wrote: Nicholas wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:08:30 +0000, Paul G wrote: ...sadly vandals and the otherwise bored and useless of London decided to spend Christmas Day at Mile End station. Graffiti artist(s) evidently had plenty of time to put meaningless scrawls on most surfaces and hoardings on the platforms. I didn't bother venturing off the very crowded train to see if they had defaced the booking hall. Earl's Court District Line platforms have also been hit. Any others? East & Westbound platforms at Arsenal, Holloway Road & Caledonian Road noted covered in graffiti earlier today. Evening Standard reporting Old Street and Angel too. http://tinyurl.com/3a35jl -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Steve Fitzgerald wrote:
Arsenal, Holloway Road and Caledonian Road on the Piccadilly line. Now how did they get in there? All that nice new tiling at Arsenal too :( |
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, Neill writes On Dec 26, 5:27 pm, alex_t wrote: P.S. Tube website consistently shown entire tube network having "good service" yesterday! Possibly the only day of the year the service bulletin is entirely accurate. The vandals could have got in at Whitechapel. Its not far to walk from there. I did say this last time this happened. Kids with paint cans are annoying, but it could have been far more sinister. Lets face it you could get an artillery piece around the tube on Christmas day..... a few small bombs would be no trouble ! -- Edward Cowling "Must go - To Meet Moriarty At The Falls !!" |
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Stuart wrote:
Steve Fitzgerald wrote: Arsenal, Holloway Road and Caledonian Road on the Piccadilly line. Now how did they get in there? All that nice new tiling at Arsenal too :( Holloway Road and Caledonian Road had been completely cleaned by the 27th, Arsenal by the 29th - good work, TfL anti-graf squad. No visible damage to the new (or old) tiles in any of the stations. Speedy removal is the best defence. -- Steve |
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writes Stuart wrote: Steve Fitzgerald wrote: Arsenal, Holloway Road and Caledonian Road on the Piccadilly line. Now how did they get in there? All that nice new tiling at Arsenal too :( Holloway Road and Caledonian Road had been completely cleaned by the 27th, Arsenal by the 29th - good work, TfL anti-graf squad. Indeed. But a pity they had to do so at all, isn't it? No visible damage to the new (or old) tiles in any of the stations. Speedy removal is the best defence. I agree. -- Ian Jelf, MITG Birmingham, UK Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk |
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2007, Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article , (steve) wrote: Stuart wrote: Steve Fitzgerald wrote: Arsenal, Holloway Road and Caledonian Road on the Piccadilly line. Now how did they get in there? All that nice new tiling at Arsenal too :( Holloway Road and Caledonian Road had been completely cleaned by the 27th, Arsenal by the 29th - good work, TfL anti-graf squad. No visible damage to the new (or old) tiles in any of the stations. Speedy removal is the best defence. Absolutely. So why is the Belle Isle area never cleaned up? Where is Belle Isle? Is that the area around Barnsbury where the CTRL portal is? Or am i thinking of something else? tom -- Things fall apart - it's scientific |
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On Dec 31 2007, 4:45 pm, Ian Jelf wrote:
In message , steve writesStuart wrote: Steve Fitzgerald wrote: Arsenal, Holloway Road and Caledonian Road on the Piccadilly line. Now how did they get in there? All that nice new tiling at Arsenal too :( Holloway Road and Caledonian Road had been completely cleaned by the 27th, Arsenal by the 29th - good work, TfL anti-graf squad. Indeed. But a pity they had to do so at all, isn't it? No visible damage to the new (or old) tiles in any of the stations. Speedy removal is the best defence. I agree. -- Ian Jelf, MITG Birmingham, UK Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of Englandhttp://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk It is cheaper to clean it up, than to provide adequete preventative security at all sites. |
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Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article , (Tom Anderson) wrote: On Mon, 31 Dec 2007, Colin Rosenstiel wrote: In article , (steve) wrote: Stuart wrote: Steve Fitzgerald wrote: Arsenal, Holloway Road and Caledonian Road on the Piccadilly line. Now how did they get in there? All that nice new tiling at Arsenal too :( Holloway Road and Caledonian Road had been completely cleaned by the 27th, Arsenal by the 29th - good work, TfL anti-graf squad. No visible damage to the new (or old) tiles in any of the stations. Speedy removal is the best defence. Absolutely. So why is the Belle Isle area never cleaned up? Where is Belle Isle? Is that the area around Barnsbury where the CTRL portal is? Or am i thinking of something else? Yes, between Gas Works and Copenhagen tunnels, I thought. The reason is that Network Rail are far less efficient at dealing with graffiti than Metronet and Tube Lines. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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On Wed, 2 Jan 2008, Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article , (Tom Anderson) wrote: On Mon, 31 Dec 2007, Colin Rosenstiel wrote: In article , (steve) wrote: Stuart wrote: Steve Fitzgerald wrote: Arsenal, Holloway Road and Caledonian Road on the Piccadilly line. Now how did they get in there? All that nice new tiling at Arsenal too :( Holloway Road and Caledonian Road had been completely cleaned by the 27th, Arsenal by the 29th - good work, TfL anti-graf squad. No visible damage to the new (or old) tiles in any of the stations. Speedy removal is the best defence. Absolutely. So why is the Belle Isle area never cleaned up? Where is Belle Isle? Is that the area around Barnsbury where the CTRL portal is? Or am i thinking of something else? Yes, between Gas Works and Copenhagen tunnels, I thought. Are those, respectively, the tunnels beneath York Way, the canal and Goodsway, and Market Road, Brewery Road and Blundell Street? The first and second as you come out of KX? I'm a bit confused about the names, as Copenhagen Street is much closer to the first tunnel - but then so is the gasworks! Ah yes, here are some references: http://www.islington.gov.uk/democrac...sp?DocID=38381 http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/twa/dl/tha...dwo1036?page=4 http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/twa/ir/tha...po1034?page=30 That would make it what's called the 'Triangle Site' in the KX redevelopment, right? There seems to have been a funeral station here at one point: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ms.drap...cts/Dawes.html Now that's what i call a halt. tom -- skills to pay the bills! |
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(Tom Anderson) wrote: On Wed, 2 Jan 2008, Colin Rosenstiel wrote: In article , (Tom Anderson) wrote: Where is Belle Isle? Is that the area around Barnsbury where the CTRL portal is? Or am i thinking of something else? Yes, between Gas Works and Copenhagen tunnels, I thought. Are those, respectively, the tunnels beneath York Way, the canal and Goodsway, and Market Road, Brewery Road and Blundell Street? The first and second as you come out of KX? I'm a bit confused about the names, as Copenhagen Street is much closer to the first tunnel - but then so is the gasworks! Ah yes, here are some references: http://www.islington.gov.uk/democrac...sp?DocID=38381 http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/twa/dl/tha...ansportandwo10 36?page=4 http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/twa/ir/tha...2000inspectors repo1034?page=30 That would make it what's called the 'Triangle Site' in the KX redevelopment, right? I think that's more to the West of the line where I meant the area occupied by the (originally 6) GN tracks only. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 01:01:02 GMT, Richard J. wrote:
Holloway Road and Caledonian Road had been completely cleaned by the 27th, Arsenal by the 29th - good work, TfL anti-graf squad. No visible damage to the new (or old) tiles in any of the stations. Speedy removal is the best defence. Absolutely. So why is the Belle Isle area never cleaned up? Where is Belle Isle? Is that the area around Barnsbury where the CTRL portal is? Or am i thinking of something else? Yes, between Gas Works and Copenhagen tunnels, I thought. The reason is that Network Rail are far less efficient at dealing with graffiti than Metronet and Tube Lines. This is particularly evident along the Finchley Road to Harrow-on-the-Hill route. The bridge supports on the Metronet side of the tracks have no graffiti, while those on the Network Rail side are covered in it. |
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