On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 23:06:54 +0000, Charles Ellson
wrote:

On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:51:57 GMT, "www.waspies.net"
wrote:

THC wrote:
On Jan 7, 12:58 am, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
I thought he was talking sense until he mentioned 'heritage', 'diesel' and
'world cup'...

Agreed, especially since the economic case for the Croxley Link is
AIUI partly built on closing Watford Met and releasing the land for
housing development.

THC
Who are the Hillingdon English Democrats...POWER TO THE PEOPLEEEEEEEE!

Another variation on UKIP ? Apparently some bloke called Gary Bushell
is their candidate for the Mayoralty of Greater London :-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Democrats
which seems to mention desires on the territory of a neighbouring
country, a policy which largely fell out of favour in the rest of
Europe about 1938.

What, Monmouthshire?

Charles Ellson wrote:
On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:51:57 GMT, "www.waspies.net"
wrote:

THC wrote:
On Jan 7, 12:58 am, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
I thought he was talking sense until he mentioned 'heritage', 'diesel' and
'world cup'...
Agreed, especially since the economic case for the Croxley Link is
AIUI partly built on closing Watford Met and releasing the land for
housing development.

THC
Who are the Hillingdon English Democrats...POWER TO THE PEOPLEEEEEEEE!

Another variation on UKIP ? Apparently some bloke called Gary Bushell
is their candidate for the Mayoralty of Greater London :-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Democrats
which seems to mention desires on the territory of a neighbouring
country, a policy which largely fell out of favour in the rest of
Europe about 1938.

Spain, Ireland and various Balkan places at least have laid claim to
territory since then, and Russia has annexed territory.

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 02:08:49 +0000, James Farrar wrote

Another variation on UKIP ? Apparently some bloke called Gary Bushell
is their candidate for the Mayoralty of Greater London :-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Democrats
which seems to mention desires on the territory of a neighbouring
country, a policy which largely fell out of favour in the rest of
Europe about 1938.

What, Monmouthshire?

Some us on this group live in Monmouthshire and are very happy with it being
in Wales!

Arthur Figgis wrote:
Charles Ellson wrote:
On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:51:57 GMT, "www.waspies.net"
wrote:

Who are the Hillingdon English Democrats...POWER TO THE
PEOPLEEEEEEEE!
Another variation on UKIP ? Apparently some bloke called Gary
Bushell is their candidate for the Mayoralty of Greater London :-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Democrats
which seems to mention desires on the territory of a neighbouring
country, a policy which largely fell out of favour in the rest of
Europe about 1938.

Spain, Ireland and various Balkan places at least have laid claim to
territory since then, and Russia has annexed territory.

Not forgetting the UK's annexation of territory in September 1955, "the
final territorial expansion of the British Empire" according to
Wikipedia. (The territory was the island of Rockall.)

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

Richard J. wrote:

Arthur Figgis wrote:
Charles Ellson wrote:
Another variation on UKIP ? Apparently some bloke called Gary
Bushell is their candidate for the Mayoralty of Greater London :-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Democrats
which seems to mention desires on the territory of a neighbouring
country, a policy which largely fell out of favour in the rest of
Europe about 1938.

Spain, Ireland and various Balkan places at least have laid claim to
territory since then, and Russia has annexed territory.

Not forgetting the UK's annexation of territory in September 1955,
"the final territorial expansion of the British Empire" according to
Wikipedia. (The territory was the island of Rockall.)

That wasn't Rockall. It was Napoleon's Piano.

solar penguin wrote:
Richard J. wrote:

Arthur Figgis wrote:
Charles Ellson wrote:
Another variation on UKIP ? Apparently some bloke called Gary
Bushell is their candidate for the Mayoralty of Greater London :-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Democrats
which seems to mention desires on the territory of a neighbouring
country, a policy which largely fell out of favour in the rest of
Europe about 1938.

Spain, Ireland and various Balkan places at least have laid claim
to territory since then, and Russia has annexed territory.

Not forgetting the UK's annexation of territory in September 1955,
"the final territorial expansion of the British Empire" according
to Wikipedia. (The territory was the island of Rockall.)

That wasn't Rockall. It was Napoleon's Piano.

:-)) Interesting that it was broadcast just 3 weeks after the
announcement of Rockall's annexation, and with the correct reason too
("because it is in the area of the rocket testing range").

For those who are wondering what on earth we are talking about:
http://www.thegoonshow.co.uk/scripts/napoleon.html

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 12:46:16 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote:

Arthur Figgis wrote:
Charles Ellson wrote:
On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:51:57 GMT, "www.waspies.net"
wrote:

Who are the Hillingdon English Democrats...POWER TO THE
PEOPLEEEEEEEE!
Another variation on UKIP ? Apparently some bloke called Gary
Bushell is their candidate for the Mayoralty of Greater London :-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Democrats
which seems to mention desires on the territory of a neighbouring
country, a policy which largely fell out of favour in the rest of
Europe about 1938.

Spain, Ireland and various Balkan places at least have laid claim to
territory since then, and Russia has annexed territory.

Not forgetting the UK's annexation of territory in September 1955, "the
final territorial expansion of the British Empire" according to
Wikipedia. (The territory was the island of Rockall.)

It was for practical purposes only a paperwork annexation which was
also attempted by Iceland and the Irish Republic. These claims have
all been declared invalid by the United Nations as it is not
recognised as habitable land despite the efforts of an ex-SAS man who
camped on the rock for a few weeks. Perhaps reclaiming Doggerland is
more practical ?

Charles Ellson wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 12:46:16 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote:

Arthur Figgis wrote:
Charles Ellson wrote:
On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:51:57 GMT, "www.waspies.net"
wrote:

Who are the Hillingdon English Democrats...POWER TO THE
PEOPLEEEEEEEE!
Another variation on UKIP ? Apparently some bloke called Gary
Bushell is their candidate for the Mayoralty of Greater London :-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Democrats
which seems to mention desires on the territory of a neighbouring
country, a policy which largely fell out of favour in the rest of
Europe about 1938.
Spain, Ireland and various Balkan places at least have laid claim to
territory since then, and Russia has annexed territory.
Not forgetting the UK's annexation of territory in September 1955, "the
final territorial expansion of the British Empire" according to
Wikipedia. (The territory was the island of Rockall.)

It was for practical purposes only a paperwork annexation which was
also attempted by Iceland and the Irish Republic.

Denmark too.

These claims have
all been declared invalid by the United Nations as it is not
recognised as habitable land despite the efforts of an ex-SAS man who
camped on the rock for a few weeks.

And Greenpeace.


http://www.therockalltimes.co.uk/pol...k-rockall.html says:

should they feel obliged to pursue the matter, we'd like to point out
the following interesting statistics:

Total number of ballistic missile submarines:
UK: 4
Denmark: 0

Total number of operationally-available nuclear warheads:
UK: 200+
Denmark: 0

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

Tom Anderson wrote:
On Mon, 7 Jan 2008, Charles Ellson wrote:

On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:51:57 GMT, "www.waspies.net"
wrote:

THC wrote:
On Jan 7, 12:58 am, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
I thought he was talking sense until he mentioned 'heritage',
'diesel' and
'world cup'...

Agreed, especially since the economic case for the Croxley Link is
AIUI partly built on closing Watford Met and releasing the land for
housing development.

Who are the Hillingdon English Democrats...POWER TO THE PEOPLEEEEEEEE!

Another variation on UKIP ? Apparently some bloke called Gary Bushell
is their candidate for the Mayoralty of Greater London :-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Democrats which seems to mention
desires on the territory of a neighbouring country, a policy which
largely fell out of favour in the rest of Europe about 1938.

Oh no, it's all the rage in trendsetting New Europe. None of the former
Yugoslavian countries would be seen dead without a claim on someone
else's territory!

The Lonely Planet book "Western Balkans" says they struggled to find a
name for the volume, having rejected "Greater [insert name of country]
and the Occupied Territories"

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

On Tue, 8 Jan 2008, Charles Ellson wrote:

On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 12:46:16 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote:

Arthur Figgis wrote:
Charles Ellson wrote:
On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:51:57 GMT, "www.waspies.net"
wrote:

Who are the Hillingdon English Democrats...POWER TO THE
PEOPLEEEEEEEE!
Another variation on UKIP ? Apparently some bloke called Gary
Bushell is their candidate for the Mayoralty of Greater London :-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Democrats
which seems to mention desires on the territory of a neighbouring
country, a policy which largely fell out of favour in the rest of
Europe about 1938.

Spain, Ireland and various Balkan places at least have laid claim to
territory since then, and Russia has annexed territory.

Not forgetting the UK's annexation of territory in September 1955, "the
final territorial expansion of the British Empire" according to
Wikipedia. (The territory was the island of Rockall.)

It was for practical purposes only a paperwork annexation which was also
attempted by Iceland and the Irish Republic. These claims have all been
declared invalid by the United Nations

I don't think that's true. Can you cite a source for that?

as it is not recognised as habitable land despite the efforts of an
ex-SAS man who camped on the rock for a few weeks.

You're right about it not being habitable, and despite the SAS camping
trip, i don't think anybody claims it is, even the UK. As an uninhabitable
rock, it has no effect on the allocation of exclusive economic zones or
continental shelf rights, and so nobody really cares who actually owns it.
Britain annexed because of the rocket testing thing. Furthermore, AIUI,
Rockall just falls within the UK's EEZ, and so it gets too look after it
in terms of mining, ecological protection, etc.

tom

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