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Tom Anderson January 10th 08 01:53 PM

Central line extension to New York?
 
For your daily dose of crazy, with some interesting boring pictures:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLL2sp6iJZI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNDePyexjA4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDcp-2DYyY

Where do Americans get those voiceover guys?

tom

--
now you're under control and now you do what we told you

Richard J.[_2_] January 10th 08 02:53 PM

Central line extension to New York?
 
Tom Anderson wrote:
For your daily dose of crazy, with some interesting boring pictures:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLL2sp6iJZI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNDePyexjA4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDcp-2DYyY

Where do Americans get those voiceover guys?


America?

When I tried the first chunk, it kept stopping in mid-tunnel. I think
it's the Piccadilly rather than the Central. :-)

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)


Graham Harrison January 10th 08 03:28 PM

Central line extension to New York?
 

"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
h.li...
For your daily dose of crazy, with some interesting boring pictures:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLL2sp6iJZI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNDePyexjA4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDcp-2DYyY

Where do Americans get those voiceover guys?

tom

--
now you're under control and now you do what we told you


Many years (late 60s) ago I worked in a travel agency in Kinghtsbridge. An
American asked which Tube to get to "Edinboro". He was genuinely shocked
when we explained the idea of taking the Picadilly to Kings X and then
sitting for over 4 hours on a "real" train.



Mizter T January 10th 08 06:36 PM

Central line extension to New York?
 
On 10 Jan, 16:28, "Graham Harrison"
wrote:
"Tom Anderson" wrote:

For your daily dose of crazy, with some interesting boring pictures:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLL2sp6iJZI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNDePyexjA4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDcp-2DYyY


Where do Americans get those voiceover guys?


tom


--
now you're under control and now you do what we told you


Many years (late 60s) ago I worked in a travel agency in Kinghtsbridge. An
American asked which Tube to get to "Edinboro". He was genuinely shocked
when we explained the idea of taking the Picadilly to Kings X and then
sitting for over 4 hours on a "real" train.



I'm not sure there'll ever be a time when I don't find such tales
amusing! Though maybe I'm merely pleased that a few yanks do fulfil
the relevant stereotyping, which is perhaps a bit unfair on the rest
of them. I'm sure there's a whole contingent of Brits capable of
equally daft behaviour when abroad (or even when away from their home
patch), though I doubt this is helped by Ryanair selling flights to
Vienna's Bratislava airport...

Ian Jelf January 10th 08 09:44 PM

Central line extension to New York?
 
In message
,
Mizter T writes
On 10 Jan, 16:28, "Graham Harrison"
m wrote:
"Tom Anderson" wrote:

For your daily dose of crazy, with some interesting boring pictures:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLL2sp6iJZI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNDePyexjA4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDcp-2DYyY


Where do Americans get those voiceover guys?


tom


--
now you're under control and now you do what we told you


Many years (late 60s) ago I worked in a travel agency in Kinghtsbridge. An
American asked which Tube to get to "Edinboro". He was genuinely shocked
when we explained the idea of taking the Picadilly to Kings X and then
sitting for over 4 hours on a "real" train.



I'm not sure there'll ever be a time when I don't find such tales
amusing! Though maybe I'm merely pleased that a few yanks do fulfil
the relevant stereotyping, which is perhaps a bit unfair on the rest
of them. I'm sure there's a whole contingent of Brits capable of
equally daft behaviour when abroad (or even when away from their home
patch),

Whenever this sort of thing comes up, I usually end up telling a story
or two.

I have had Americans confuse Windsor and Brighton, Oxford and Oxford
Street, ask for directions to Camelot and head off up to the Northern
end of the DLR in search of Shakespeare's Birthplace.

But then I've had Britons complaining *bitterly* that "the Dome isn't
next to the London Eye" , not recognise Big Ben [1] and try to get to
Covent Garden by standing at a bus stop [2] and waiting for a bus
labelled "Covent Garden" to come along.......

Taking Britons abroad I've heard complaints that Paris "hadn't used to
be this far", that the view of the Alps is "spoiled by all the mountains
in the way" and been admonished for speaking German to a hotelier when
sorting out a customer's problem "because I must have had something to
hide".

Overall, we tend to be more ignorant abroad than visitors to the UK are
about us. (European visitors in particular are generally very
knowledgeable and interested in Britain and its culture.)

though I doubt this is helped by Ryanair selling flights to
Vienna's Bratislava airport...


[1] And I don't ,mean in the sense that "Big Ben is actually the bell",
I mean actually ask what that clock tower is.

[2] Any bus stop, at random.

--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

John Rowland January 10th 08 10:41 PM

Central line extension to New York?
 
Mizter T wrote:

Though maybe I'm merely pleased that a few yanks do fulfil
the relevant stereotyping, which is perhaps a bit unfair on the rest
of them.


Thirty years ago, a friend and I were at Victoria on the Circle platforms.
Near us were An American Tourist, complete with cigars in pocket of flowery
shirt, and a Japanese couple. Japanese man walks up to yank and says
"Euston? Zis Tlain to Euston?". The yank says , "No, ya gartta go darn the
stayers t' th' urther plaatfoam". Jap stares in total confusion. American
then shouts at the Jap so loudly that it echoes along the platforms, "GO
DOWNO STAIRO TO OTHERO PLATFORMO".



Boltar January 11th 08 10:19 AM

Central line extension to New York?
 
On 10 Jan, 14:53, Tom Anderson wrote:
For your daily dose of crazy, with some interesting boring pictures:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLL2s...?v=cZDcp-2DYyY

Where do Americans get those voiceover guys?


Where do they get these crazy Ra-Ra Technologists who think because
something is physically possible it is almost inevitable? Have they
ever stopped to think how the might rescue passengers from a derailed/
burning/disabled train 1500 miles from land? Not to mention if a train
even just breaks down it could trap many other following trains in the
tunnel with it. As for doing 5000 mph in the tunnel - only possible
with the tunnel in vacuum which makes evacuating a train equivalent to
docking with the space station not to mention the extra pressure the
tunnel will have to put up with from the external ocean. Its all total
******** but it makes a nice Boys Own style documentary I suppose.

B2003


John Rowland January 11th 08 11:45 AM

Central line extension to New York?
 
Boltar wrote:
On 10 Jan, 14:53, Tom Anderson wrote:
For your daily dose of crazy, with some interesting boring pictures:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLL2s...?v=cZDcp-2DYyY

Where do Americans get those voiceover guys?


Where do they get these crazy Ra-Ra Technologists who think because
something is physically possible it is almost inevitable?


Quite. The Croxley Link is physically possible, but ut seems to be anything
but inevitable.

Have they
ever stopped to think how the might rescue passengers from a derailed/
burning/disabled train 1500 miles from land?


It doesn't matter - no company, individual or government will pour money
into a project which will take 100 years to show a return. Just think how
many changes of government would occur in the meantime, any one of which
could cancel the project.



Boltar January 11th 08 04:52 PM

Central line extension to New York?
 
On 11 Jan, 12:45, "John Rowland"
wrote:
It doesn't matter - no company, individual or government will pour money
into a project which will take 100 years to show a return. Just think how
many changes of government would occur in the meantime, any one of which
could cancel the project.


I don't think it would ever make a return. They cited 12 TRILLION
dollars to build. Assuming once its built it transports 10,000
passengers a day for a ticket price of $10,000 each , it'll require
10^12 / (10,000 * 10,000) = 120,000 days just to break even on
construction costs alone - thats 328 years! When you factor in
maintenance and running costs the figures would probably be laughable.
Of course that won't stop Terence Beardy-Bloke type engineers waxing
lyrical about how it could be just round the corner , along with the
space elevator and bases on Mars.
B2003


Paul Corfield January 11th 08 05:05 PM

Central line extension to New York?
 
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:41:21 -0000, "John Rowland"
wrote:

Mizter T wrote:

Though maybe I'm merely pleased that a few yanks do fulfil
the relevant stereotyping, which is perhaps a bit unfair on the rest
of them.


Thirty years ago, a friend and I were at Victoria on the Circle platforms.
Near us were An American Tourist, complete with cigars in pocket of flowery
shirt, and a Japanese couple. Japanese man walks up to yank and says
"Euston? Zis Tlain to Euston?". The yank says , "No, ya gartta go darn the
stayers t' th' urther plaatfoam". Jap stares in total confusion.


I'm mildly amused that the Yank knew which way it was to Euston.

American
then shouts at the Jap so loudly that it echoes along the platforms, "GO
DOWNO STAIRO TO OTHERO PLATFORMO".


Similar to the infamous example from old documentary about Angel Station
and the booking clerk saying "take the lift and go on stop northbound to
Kings Cross and change for the PicclyDickly line".

--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

Paul Corfield January 11th 08 05:10 PM

Central line extension to New York?
 
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:44:29 +0000, Ian Jelf
wrote:

Whenever this sort of thing comes up, I usually end up telling a story
or two.

I have had Americans confuse Windsor and Brighton, Oxford and Oxford
Street, ask for directions to Camelot and head off up to the Northern
end of the DLR in search of Shakespeare's Birthplace.

But then I've had Britons complaining *bitterly* that "the Dome isn't
next to the London Eye" , not recognise Big Ben [1] and try to get to
Covent Garden by standing at a bus stop [2] and waiting for a bus
labelled "Covent Garden" to come along.......

Taking Britons abroad I've heard complaints that Paris "hadn't used to
be this far", that the view of the Alps is "spoiled by all the mountains
in the way" and been admonished for speaking German to a hotelier when
sorting out a customer's problem "because I must have had something to
hide".


Even though you've posted some of these examples before they still make
me smile.

Overall, we tend to be more ignorant abroad than visitors to the UK are
about us. (European visitors in particular are generally very
knowledgeable and interested in Britain and its culture.)


Which unfortunately is the point. Even in "easy" places like Singapore
and Hong Kong you witness all sorts of nonsense or else a general
reluctance to "do as the locals do". I think I must be about the only
tourist in Singapore who deigns to use the normal bus services rather
than silly sightseeing or premium fare tourist shuttles. On my most
recent visit I saw some people (who were staying in the same hotel as
me) look visibly surprised when they saw me alight from a local bus near
the hotel while they waited for the SIA shuttle service.

--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

Paul Scott January 11th 08 05:11 PM

Central line extension to New York?
 
Paul Corfield wrote:

Similar to the infamous example from old documentary about Angel
Station and the booking clerk saying "take the lift and go on stop
northbound to Kings Cross and change for the PicclyDickly line".


Was that on the normal TV within the last year or two? - the one with the
original 'customer care specialist' station supervisor?

Paul S





Graham Harrison January 11th 08 05:49 PM

Central line extension to New York?
 

"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:44:29 +0000, Ian Jelf
wrote:

Whenever this sort of thing comes up, I usually end up telling a story
or two.

I have had Americans confuse Windsor and Brighton, Oxford and Oxford
Street, ask for directions to Camelot and head off up to the Northern
end of the DLR in search of Shakespeare's Birthplace.

But then I've had Britons complaining *bitterly* that "the Dome isn't
next to the London Eye" , not recognise Big Ben [1] and try to get to
Covent Garden by standing at a bus stop [2] and waiting for a bus
labelled "Covent Garden" to come along.......

Taking Britons abroad I've heard complaints that Paris "hadn't used to
be this far", that the view of the Alps is "spoiled by all the mountains
in the way" and been admonished for speaking German to a hotelier when
sorting out a customer's problem "because I must have had something to
hide".


Even though you've posted some of these examples before they still make
me smile.

Overall, we tend to be more ignorant abroad than visitors to the UK are
about us. (European visitors in particular are generally very
knowledgeable and interested in Britain and its culture.)


Which unfortunately is the point. Even in "easy" places like Singapore
and Hong Kong you witness all sorts of nonsense or else a general
reluctance to "do as the locals do". I think I must be about the only
tourist in Singapore who deigns to use the normal bus services rather
than silly sightseeing or premium fare tourist shuttles. On my most
recent visit I saw some people (who were staying in the same hotel as
me) look visibly surprised when they saw me alight from a local bus near
the hotel while they waited for the SIA shuttle service.

--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!


Can't remember if I used the buses but I definitely used the Singapore
underground. In fact.....

I was in the process of buying a house (in the UK) and my wife had sent me
some documents to sign. Two needed a witness. I went round the hotel
dining room at breakfast but people were from every country except the UK.
I gave up and went sightseeing (it was Sunday). I was on an underground
train and a (youngish, not that it's relevant) caucasian couple got on. I
thought "why not" so asked if they were British. "Yes" (they were Navy
people and their boat was in dock) and one of them duly obliged me.
Stupidly, when I got back to the hotel to arrange to fedex the documents
home there was a BA crew in the lobby ... had I waited around....

I admit to being a travel snob and I'm often irritated by the number of
brits I notice on public transport in some of the most out of the way
places.



Paul Corfield January 11th 08 06:15 PM

Central line extension to New York?
 
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:11:26 -0000, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:

Similar to the infamous example from old documentary about Angel
Station and the booking clerk saying "take the lift and go on stop
northbound to Kings Cross and change for the PicclyDickly line".


Was that on the normal TV within the last year or two? - the one with the
original 'customer care specialist' station supervisor?


Yes it was - "Heart of the Angel". The supervisor who smoked and swore
all the time and when seeing the plans for the expanded station said
"they won't have me working here when that happens". Poor old Jerry
Gold who was the senior manager listening to him!

--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

lonelytraveller January 13th 08 03:22 PM

Central line extension to New York?
 
It doesn't matter - no company, individual or government will pour money
into a project which will take 100 years to show a return. Just think how
many changes of government would occur in the meantime, any one of which
could cancel the project.

Well, its taken them 104 years to build the tube line between North
Woolwich and South Woolwich, but they are finally doing it.

MIG January 13th 08 03:33 PM

Central line extension to New York?
 
On 10 Jan, 19:36, Mizter T wrote:
On 10 Jan, 16:28, "Graham Harrison"





wrote:
"Tom Anderson" wrote:


For your daily dose of crazy, with some interesting boring pictures:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLL2sp6iJZI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNDePyexjA4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDcp-2DYyY


Where do Americans get those voiceover guys?


tom


--
now you're under control and now you do what we told you


Many years (late 60s) ago I worked in a travel agency in Kinghtsbridge. * An
American asked which Tube to get to "Edinboro". * He was genuinely shocked
when we explained the idea of taking the Picadilly to Kings X and then
sitting for over 4 hours on a "real" train.


I'm not sure there'll ever be a time when I don't find such tales
amusing! Though maybe I'm merely pleased that a few yanks do fulfil
the relevant stereotyping, which is perhaps a bit unfair on the rest
of them. I'm sure there's a whole contingent of Brits capable of
equally daft behaviour when abroad (or even when away from their home
patch), though I doubt this is helped by Ryanair selling flights to
Vienna's Bratislava airport...-



When I first saw the heading I assumed that Ryanair was going to start
flying to Northolt (suitably renamed).

David Cantrell January 14th 08 11:00 AM

Central line extension to New York?
 
On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 03:19:20AM -0800, Boltar wrote:

Where do they get these crazy Ra-Ra Technologists who think because
something is physically possible it is almost inevitable?


Yes, heaven forbid that we ever travel at over 50mph. It's possible,
but there's really no need for it, it's uneconomical, you won't be able
to breathe, and the lower orders might get uppity.

--
David Cantrell | Enforcer, South London Linguistic Massive

engineer: n. one who, regardless of how much effort he puts in
to a job, will never satisfy either the suits or the scientists


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