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In article
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(Paul Oter) wrote:

On Jan 12, 11:58 am, tony sayer wrote:
In article

s.com, Paul Oter scribeth thus
(commuting from Cambridge to London)

BTW.. Are the barriers at Cambridge operational as yet?..

The flaps have now been fitted so they appear finished. But I
haven't seen them in operation yet (and I use them every weekday).

Not in use by Friday 17:00.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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In article
,
(Paul Oter) wrote:

An annual (standard class) season ticket from Cambridge to London
Terminals is £3640 and to London Zones R1256 is £4600, a difference
of £960.

If you simply commute on working days only to a Zone 1 underground
station and use a pre-pay OysterCard, the annual cost of your tube
travel would be about £1.50 x 2 x 5 x 48 which is £720. So even if
you make occasional additional journeys at weekends, beyond Zone 1 or
on
the bus it might be cheaper to get a London Terminals ticket and
use a pre-pay OysterCard.

This is becoming a depressingly standard pattern with FCC fares involving
Underground travel. An Off-Peak Day Travelcard, even with Railcard
discount, requires increasing amounts of London travel to justify its
purchase.

On January 2 they seem to have abolished all ticketing involving
Underground travel and an overnight or longer stay in London. I suggested
they start selling Oyster credit but they missed the point.

I wonder if there is an Annual Season rate to Zone 1? The Nationalrail
web site says "There is no season ticket option available between the
stations you have chosen."

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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In article
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(Paul Oter) wrote:

The gates at King's Cross Underground (especially the ones in the
Western Ticket Hall) are notoriously bad at accepting paper tickets.
Many of them will only take the ticket is you push it in quite hard,
others refuse to accept it altogether. I have got into the habit of
identifying a particular gate that seems to work properly and using
it each day, though even that doesn't always work.

I'm surprised to see you write that. I never have problems with paper
tickets coming out of the Victoria or Piccadilly Lines and heading for
King's Cross. All on day tickets, though.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:09:39 -0000, Paul Scott wrote:

Note, incidentally, that if you're commuting from Cambridge to the
City of London (and don't fancy the Liverpool Street line) then you
can use a Cambridge - London Terminals ticket on the underground
between King's Cross and Moorgate.

Not according to the current Fares Manual (Section A Page A4), there is an
exclusion for journey's beyond St Pancras from the north (or City Thameslink
from the south). In other words Moorgate is only a London Terminal via
Finsbury Park.

You are mistaken, mainly because Cambridge is on the GN route (out of
KX), not the TL route (out of St Pancras). The PP is correct (see page
L5).

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"asdf" wrote in message
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:09:39 -0000, Paul Scott wrote:

Note, incidentally, that if you're commuting from Cambridge to the
City of London (and don't fancy the Liverpool Street line) then you
can use a Cambridge - London Terminals ticket on the underground
between King's Cross and Moorgate.

Not according to the current Fares Manual (Section A Page A4), there is an
exclusion for journey's beyond St Pancras from the north (or City
Thameslink
from the south). In other words Moorgate is only a London Terminal via
Finsbury Park.

You are mistaken, mainly because Cambridge is on the GN route (out of
KX), not the TL route (out of St Pancras). The PP is correct (see page
L5).

How do you get from Kings Cross to Moorgate by train then?

Paul

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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:58:21 -0000, Paul Scott wrote:

Note, incidentally, that if you're commuting from Cambridge to the
City of London (and don't fancy the Liverpool Street line) then you
can use a Cambridge - London Terminals ticket on the underground
between King's Cross and Moorgate.

Not according to the current Fares Manual (Section A Page A4), there is an
exclusion for journey's beyond St Pancras from the north (or City
Thameslink
from the south). In other words Moorgate is only a London Terminal via
Finsbury Park.

You are mistaken, mainly because Cambridge is on the GN route (out of
KX), not the TL route (out of St Pancras). The PP is correct (see page
L5).

How do you get from Kings Cross to Moorgate by train then?

Circle, Metropolitan, Hammersmith & City, or Northern lines.

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In message , at 21:58:21 on
Sat, 12 Jan 2008, Paul Scott remarked:
Note, incidentally, that if you're commuting from Cambridge to the
City of London (and don't fancy the Liverpool Street line) then you
can use a Cambridge - London Terminals ticket on the underground
between King's Cross and Moorgate.

Not according to the current Fares Manual (Section A Page A4), there is an
exclusion for journey's beyond St Pancras from the north (or City
Thameslink
from the south). In other words Moorgate is only a London Terminal via
Finsbury Park.

You are mistaken, mainly because Cambridge is on the GN route (out of
KX), not the TL route (out of St Pancras). The PP is correct (see page
L5).

How do you get from Kings Cross to Moorgate by train then?

Underground, it was alleged.
--
Roland Perry

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"Paul Scott" wrote in message
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"asdf" wrote in message
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:09:39 -0000, Paul Scott wrote:

Note, incidentally, that if you're commuting from Cambridge to the
City of London (and don't fancy the Liverpool Street line) then you
can use a Cambridge - London Terminals ticket on the underground
between King's Cross and Moorgate.

Not according to the current Fares Manual (Section A Page A4), there is
an
exclusion for journey's beyond St Pancras from the north (or City
Thameslink
from the south). In other words Moorgate is only a London Terminal via
Finsbury Park.

You are mistaken, mainly because Cambridge is on the GN route (out of
KX), not the TL route (out of St Pancras). The PP is correct (see page
L5).

How do you get from Kings Cross to Moorgate by train then?


I see - (should have checked L5 first!) - it's weird isn't it - I assume
this has something to do with the history of Moorgate as a former
underground station (GN&C), and/or the fact that the 'replacement' main line
trains don't run late evening and weekends, so the underground is ok in
lieu?

Paul

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On 12 Jan, 20:09, "Paul Scott" wrote:
Not according to the current Fares Manual (Section A Page A4), there is an
exclusion for journey's beyond St Pancras from the north (or City Thameslink
from the south). In other words Moorgate is only a London Terminal via
Finsbury Park.

Exactly right, but this is about trains via Finsbury Park. There's an
arrangement that any ticket valid on Finsbury Park-Moorgate trains is
also valid Finsbury Park-King's Cross (on trains or tube) then KXSP-
Moorgate (tube only), to compensate for when the Northern City Line is
closed. You're not allowed to use any intermediate stations other than
Highbury & Islington and Old Street.

U

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In article ,
(Paul Scott) wrote:

"Paul Scott" wrote in message
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"asdf" wrote in message
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:09:39 -0000, Paul Scott wrote:

Note, incidentally, that if you're commuting from Cambridge to the
City of London (and don't fancy the Liverpool Street line) then you
can use a Cambridge - London Terminals ticket on the underground
between King's Cross and Moorgate.

Not according to the current Fares Manual (Section A Page A4), there

is an exclusion for journey's beyond St Pancras from the north (or
City Thameslink from the south). In other words Moorgate is only a
London Terminal via Finsbury Park.

You are mistaken, mainly because Cambridge is on the GN route (out
of KX), not the TL route (out of St Pancras). The PP is correct
(see page L5).

How do you get from Kings Cross to Moorgate by train then?

I see - (should have checked L5 first!) - it's weird isn't it - I
assume this has something to do with the history of Moorgate as a
former underground station (GN&C), and/or the fact that the
'replacement' main line trains don't run late evening and weekends,
so the underground is ok in lieu?

Nowt to do with the GN&C I expect, but a relic of the City Widened Lines
which provided direct services from the GN to Moorgate (Met) until the
1970s.

--
Colin Rosenstiel