Redevelopment at Liverpool Street
 

On 14 Jan, 04:35, wrote:
There was an exit at the extreme rear end of the EB Central Line
plaform. You went up stairs then turned right into a corridor which
lead due north to reach the lifts lower landing. At top level these
lifts allowed access directly onto the concourse of Broad Street BR
station. All this was still there disused until the Broadgate Centre
was built in the mid-1980s.

Ah, thanks. Do you think they might reopen those tunnels if the
Crossrail plan goes ahead unchanged?

Redevelopment at Liverpool Street
 

On 14 Jan, 04:35, wrote:
There was an exit at the extreme rear end of the EB Central Line
plaform. You went up stairs then turned right into a corridor which
lead due north to reach the lifts lower landing. At top level these
lifts allowed access directly onto the concourse of Broad Street BR
station. All this was still there disused until the Broadgate Centre
was built in the mid-1980s.

Do you happen to know where the spiral staircase was, and what
happened to it?

Redevelopment at Liverpool Street
 

In article ,
(Tom Anderson) wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008, Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

In article
,
(MIG) wrote:

I think this is roughly where the bus station is now, above the
arcade below, but further west than the platforms. So it looks
as if the taxis went down the side of the station, as at
Paddington, rather than the station starting further back.

So, instead of direct cycle access to the platforms from the
street, you now have to get up a few steps and down a substantial
staircase (or escalator), or else go on a detour equivalent to
the frontage of Broad St station and back walking through the
Broadgate shopping centre, instead.

This great planning success was for the London terminal at the
time still the principal one for services to Britain's premier
cycling city, Cambridge. Pillocks!

Rubbish, it's good for you! In fact, taking ten minutes every
morning to run up and down the steps carrying your bike would be
excellent training for breakaways and hill attacks.

It's a shame they didn't put in a ramp inside the station, rising
from ground level at the west (Broadgate centre) end to the level
of the elevated walkways (and so the street) at the east end. Would
have been very handy, although i'm not entirely sure quite where
you'd put it.

You're right of course. Cyclists should be fit enough. However, it was a
massive step backwards for users of wheelchairs and children's buggies.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Redevelopment at Liverpool Street
 

On 14 Jan, 20:16, lonelytraveller
wrote:
On 14 Jan, 04:35, wrote:

There was an exit at the extreme rear end of the EB Central Line
plaform. You went up stairs then turned right into a corridor which
lead due north to reach the lifts lower landing. At top level these
lifts allowed access directly onto the concourse of Broad Street BR
station. All this was still there disused until the Broadgate Centre
was built in the mid-1980s.

Do you happen to know where the spiral staircase was, and what
happened to it?

The is a "lift shaft" type area located between the platforms towards
the middle. It's now a pump room (the pump was prone to fail not so
long ago, causing flooding on the platform). As others have said, the
escalator shaft towards Broad Street was located at the west end of
the platforms, up some stairs and along a passage, coming out where
the bus station now is.

Redevelopment at Liverpool Street
 

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008, Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

In article ,
(Tom Anderson) wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008, Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

In article
,
(MIG) wrote:

I think this is roughly where the bus station is now, above the
arcade below, but further west than the platforms. So it looks
as if the taxis went down the side of the station, as at
Paddington, rather than the station starting further back.

So, instead of direct cycle access to the platforms from the
street, you now have to get up a few steps and down a substantial
staircase (or escalator), or else go on a detour equivalent to
the frontage of Broad St station and back walking through the
Broadgate shopping centre, instead.

This great planning success was for the London terminal at the
time still the principal one for services to Britain's premier
cycling city, Cambridge. Pillocks!

Rubbish, it's good for you! In fact, taking ten minutes every
morning to run up and down the steps carrying your bike would be
excellent training for breakaways and hill attacks.

It's a shame they didn't put in a ramp inside the station, rising
from ground level at the west (Broadgate centre) end to the level
of the elevated walkways (and so the street) at the east end. Would
have been very handy, although i'm not entirely sure quite where
you'd put it.

You're right of course. Cyclists should be fit enough. However, it was a
massive step backwards for users of wheelchairs and children's buggies.

Rubbish, it's good for you! In fact, taking ten minutes every morning to
run up and down the steps carrying your wheelchair or children's buggy
would be excellent training for breakaways and hill attacks.

Well, okay, maybe not in all cases.

Is there not a lift? DDA and all that?

tom

--
Transform your language.

Redevelopment at Liverpool Street
 

Do you happen to know where the spiral staircase was, and what
happened to it?

The is a "lift shaft" type area located between the platforms towards
the middle. It's now a pump room (the pump was prone to fail not so
long ago, causing flooding on the platform). As others have said, the
escalator shaft towards Broad Street was located at the west end of
the platforms, up some stairs and along a passage, coming out where
the bus station now is.

So I assume its been capped now at the ticket hall level, so that they
can have that newer set of escalators to the north?
But is the shaft completely blocked up, or can you still get to it
from a newer staircase, as, perhaps, an emergency escape?

What is it pumping out? (obviously water, but where is it coming from
in such heavy quantities to cause flooding - does the walbrook pass by
there?)

Redevelopment at Liverpool Street
 

On 15 Jan, 08:47, lonelytraveller
wrote:

So I assume its been capped now at the ticket hall level, so that they
can have that newer set of escalators to the north?
But is the shaft completely blocked up, or can you still get to it
from a newer staircase, as, perhaps, an emergency escape?


I must admit, I never actually looked up - mainly due to the smell
inside. It was always more a case of, open door, take a deep breath,
go in, reset the pump and get out before breathing again ;-)

What is it pumping out? (obviously water, but where is it coming from
in such heavy quantities to cause flooding - does the walbrook pass by
there?)

It's the lowest sump of the station. It wasn't down to the quantity of
water being pumped out that caused the flooding, it was the pump
repeatedly breaking down due to being life expired.

Redevelopment at Liverpool Street
 

In article ,
(Tom Anderson) wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008, Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

In article ,
(Tom Anderson) wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008, Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

In article
,
(MIG) wrote:

I think this is roughly where the bus station is now, above the
arcade below, but further west than the platforms. So it looks
as if the taxis went down the side of the station, as at
Paddington, rather than the station starting further back.

So, instead of direct cycle access to the platforms from the
street, you now have to get up a few steps and down a substantial
staircase (or escalator), or else go on a detour equivalent to
the frontage of Broad St station and back walking through the
Broadgate shopping centre, instead.

This great planning success was for the London terminal at the
time still the principal one for services to Britain's premier
cycling city, Cambridge. Pillocks!

Rubbish, it's good for you! In fact, taking ten minutes every
morning to run up and down the steps carrying your bike would be
excellent training for breakaways and hill attacks.

It's a shame they didn't put in a ramp inside the station, rising
from ground level at the west (Broadgate centre) end to the level
of the elevated walkways (and so the street) at the east end. Would
have been very handy, although i'm not entirely sure quite where
you'd put it.

You're right of course. Cyclists should be fit enough. However,
it was a massive step backwards for users of wheelchairs and
children's buggies.

Rubbish, it's good for you! In fact, taking ten minutes every
morning to run up and down the steps carrying your wheelchair or
children's buggy would be excellent training for breakaways and
hill attacks.

Well, okay, maybe not in all cases.

:-)

Is there not a lift? DDA and all that?

Not that I've noticed, so therefore stuck away in a corner, I guess.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Redevelopment at Liverpool Street
 

On 15 Jan, 17:02, (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:
Not that I've noticed, so therefore stuck away in a corner, I guess.

It's very well hidden:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Im...ool_Street.jpg

That photo's taken on the upper concourse above the tube station
entrance.

U

--
http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/
A blog about transport projects in London

Redevelopment at Liverpool Street
 

In message
of
Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:15:30 in uk.transport.london, Mr Thant
writes
On 15 Jan, 17:02, (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:
Not that I've noticed, so therefore stuck away in a corner, I guess.

It's very well hidden:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Im...ool_Street.jpg

That photo's taken on the upper concourse above the tube station
entrance.

The other stops a
-1 in the One ticket Hall to the right of all the ticket windows;
-2 in the Circle, Hammersmith & City and Metropolitan ticket hall to the
left of the main entry steps.

This gives eastbound DDA access from Platform 1; unofficial westbound
access involves interchange at Aldgate - either take Circle and swap
from platform 4 to Metropolitan on platform 3 or take Metropolitan and
wait to go west.

I apologise I am reminded of 7/7/2005. There is a memorial which always
has fresh flowers in the ticket hall. I happened on preparations for a
memorial service at 11.00 on the closest Sunday in 2007. I was unable to
stay and attend. I shall try to attend in 2008.
--
Walter Briscoe