On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 07:03:10 -0400, Roland Perry wrote:
In article , David Walters
writes
If the gates are open you need to wait for them to say enter. If
you swipe to quickly (which I assume means the communication between
the barrier and your card hasn't finished) then you get a seek
assitance together with some loud beeping.

Bt what it you don't enter via a gate, but use one of the devices at the
ex carnet-verifier sites (like Farringdon station)?

They have a series of LEDs. Wait for the green one to come on. I
expect the LCD display might say something helpful and they might
even beep but I'm yet to find one that is open.

David

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 10:27:03 -0400, Roland Perry wrote:
In article , David Walters
writes
They have a series of LEDs. Wait for the green one to come on.

These are the LEDs that helpfully turn red at the moment when you put a
valid paper ticket in?

Yes. Swipe too quickly and the red one comes on.

David

In article , David Walters
writes
These are the LEDs that helpfully turn red at the moment when you put a
valid paper ticket in?

Yes. Swipe too quickly and the red one comes on.

But why have the LEDs come on *at all* when you use the paper ticket?
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On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 11:55:08 -0400, Roland Perry
wrote:

In article , David Walters
writes
These are the LEDs that helpfully turn red at the moment when you put a
valid paper ticket in?

Yes. Swipe too quickly and the red one comes on.

But why have the LEDs come on *at all* when you use the paper ticket?

They go red to tell you that you can't use an oyster at the moment
because the gate is already in use.

In article , K
writes
But why have the LEDs come on *at all* when you use the paper ticket?

They go red to tell you that you can't use an oyster at the moment
because the gate is already in use.

But I know the gate's in use - I'm standing in it!!!!

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window a bit, type a bit, stare out of the window a bit. Networked computers
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window you stare out of are the same thing" - Douglas Adams 28/1/99.

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 21:10:39 -0400, Roland Perry
wrote:

In article , Robin May
writes
Oh well. Perhaps, given time, you can learn to live with this red LED,
even though it is clearly very disturbing for you.

It's the way it conditions people away from "red means stop". You stick
in your ticket and the gate says "Red - OK, proceed".

Erm, the colour sequence is:

a) Amber - Ready to read.

b) Red - Oyster rejected or not ready to read.

c) Green - Oyster read ok, no problems.


Rob.
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In article , Robert Woolley
writes
Erm, the colour sequence is:

a) Amber - Ready to read.
OK.

b) Red - Oyster rejected or not ready to read.
No, Red - paper ticket accepted.

c) Green - Oyster read ok, no problems.
Never seen green. Why isn't "paper ticket accepted" green?

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window you stare out of are the same thing" - Douglas Adams 28/1/99.

Roland Perry wrote the following in:


In article , Robin May
writes
Oh well. Perhaps, given time, you can learn to live with this red
LED, even though it is clearly very disturbing for you.

It's the way it conditions people away from "red means stop". You
stick in your ticket and the gate says "Red - OK, proceed".

I think most people actually look at the big screen on the top of the
gate, not the tiny little LEDs on a pass reader which they aren't using
and have no reason to use.

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"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In article , Robin May
writes
I think most people actually look at the big screen on the top of the
gate, not the tiny little LEDs on a pass reader which they aren't using
and have no reason to use.

I use the gates all the time, and have never seen a "big screen". The
Oystercard reader is right there, where you insert the ticket.

I think he means the bit that says 'Enter' and 'Seek Assistance'.

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 13:44:03 +0100, "Ed Crowley"
wrote:

I think he means the bit that says 'Enter' and 'Seek Assistance'.

Or the fact that the barriers open if the ticket is valid (if
applicable once it has been removed)!

(Doesn't apply if you're touching an Oyster on an already-open
barrier, mind).

Neil

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